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Old 12-14-2003, 06:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Saddam in US Custody!!!



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105706,00.html
BAGHDAD, Iraq — Without firing a single shot, U.S. forces captured Saddam Hussein as he hid in the bottom of a hole in a home near Tikrit, officials announced Sunday at a Baghdad press conference.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him," L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator in Iraq, announced.

"The tyrant is a prisoner," Bremer said.

The former Iraqi dictator was captured Saturday at 8:30 p.m. in the cellar of a farmhouse in the town of Adwar, 10 miles from Tikrit, ending one of the most intense manhunts in history. Saddam has been on the run since the fall of Baghdad to U.S. forces on April 9.

Officials showed a videotape of Saddam, the most-wanted figure by the U.S.-led coalition, as he was being inspected following his capture. The 66-year-old had a long black-and-gray beard and unkempt black hair. Journalists were then shown a video of Saddam after he was shaved.
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Old 12-14-2003, 06:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Damn straight, those WMD should be rollin in within the next few months now. Now we need to get Osama, because if we don't he will be taking over the counter-Coalition ops in Iraq, and that would suck.
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Old 12-14-2003, 06:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hope it puts an end to all the death and destruction in Irac
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Old 12-14-2003, 06:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hope it puts an end to all the death and destruction in Irac

It won't. All we've done now is piss off Sadaam's supporters even more. He's now a martyr for their cause, and they will fight all the more fiercely now that this has happened.

BTW, I'd have been much more impressed if we'd captured bin Laden, who actually did something to us
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It won't. All we've done now is piss off Sadaam's supporters even more. He's now a martyr for their cause, and they will fight all the more fiercely now that this has happened. .......

I think you're wrong- any reason they had has now vanished. Those who were still supporting him out of hopes for power and wealth if and when he returned have now seen this vanish before their eyes. Sorta' like owning a lottery ticket when you hear on the news that no one won. I believe that there will be a deluge of information and assistance from the Iraqi people now that they know for certain that he will never be back. As for bin Laden - I have a feeling that the temperature on his ass was just turned back up to "high" and all the burners are back under his pot. It will be interesting to listen to the Demo"critic" candidates if everything that has been said about Saddam and his regime comes true over the next few weeks. Dean can probably go back to making maple syrup or whatever it is that he does when we're not blessed with him on TV all of the time.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wonderful news. Now after so many, many years of subjugation, the people of Iraq can finally have their country back.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Lets crucify him.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Damn straight, those WMD should be rollin in within the next few months now. Now we need to get Osama, because if we don't he will be taking over the counter-Coalition ops in Iraq, and that would suck.
Besides being in US custody what reason does Saddam have to tell the world where the WMD are if there are any in Iraq. We've deposed him, killed his aids, killed his kids, etc. While this all looks grand and good right now, I see the possiblity that this could be bad for someone besides Saddam in the future.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Prophecy, how's about this deal: Saddam tells the US where the WMDs are, and they'll persuade their Iraqi friends not to execute him. They might even send him to the Hague instead...
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:43 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I think he's a pussy at heart, he'll tell where they are to save his own ass.

Lets crucify him if he tells us or not?
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think he's a pussy at heart, he'll tell where they are to save his own ass.
The fact that he was captured alive seems to back you up there.

Good game for our side. I still don't support the reasons for the war, but I also don't think Saddam was a good person by any means and I'm glad to see him captured.

And I think this will help in Iraq. I would think a lot of his loyalists just blindly believed that he was some sort of godlike figure. It's hard to believe that when he's dug out of a filthy hut and he's in USA custody.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:49 AM   #13 (permalink)
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He's one of many war criminals in the ongoing war on terror. It won't end in our lifetime - nor should it. This is one step in a journey of many thousands.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
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He's one of many war criminals in the ongoing war on terror. It won't end in our lifetime - nor should it. This is one step in a journey of many thousands.
Enjoy the moment, but as Churchill said, "This isnt the beginning of the end, only the end of the beginning" (loosely quoted). We need to adjust our perspective to a struggle that will take generations.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:12 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Now that Saddam is caught I can't wait for the medias insatiable desire to subjectively convince the masses that there are WMD in Iran just as they did Iraq.

Maybe the Americans can rely on bogus info again like they did concerning Iraq and get sucked into believing that Iran now is going to destroy the world. And to N.Korea, your turn should come by Easter.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:13 AM   #16 (permalink)
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It kind of makes you wonder why he didn't kill himself since he had a gun when he was captured. Maybe he will be willing to cooperate with coalition forces.

This is a great day for the Iraqi people!!
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:21 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I said it was because he's a pussy. Sure is easy to push people around when you've got body guards and your own army. Bring our shit to his grill and look at what happened, he ran away and hid in a hole like a bitch. Of course he wouldn't kill himself.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:29 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Yes, it's so GREAT for the Iraqi people to not get to run their own country. Get of of Iraq and it might become a GREAT day.

If the US even tries to get contracts for oil for thair own companies, then you're not helping the Iraqis.

Haag or nothing. It's not the US role to choose what happens to Saddam.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:30 AM   #19 (permalink)
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It kind of makes you wonder why he didn't kill himself since he had a gun when he was captured. Maybe he will be willing to cooperate with coalition forces.

If he killed himself he would loose his power.Even incarcerated I think he will still yield some power.

If the American's killed him there would always be a shadow of doubt as to if it was the real Saddam that was killed.

Besides, knowing how lucrative book and movie deals are,he'd be a fool to kill himself.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:42 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Haag or nothing. It's not the US role to choose what happens to Saddam.
Yeah sure, hahahaha.


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If he killed himself he would loose his power.Even incarcerated I think he will still yield some power.

If the American's killed him there would always be a shadow of doubt as to if it was the real Saddam that was killed.

Besides, knowing how lucrative book and movie deals are,he'd be a fool to kill himself.
Pff, he just doesn't want to die. We might decide to let him live if he shows us where all his weapons are too. Although I hope not, I've got a warm place in my heart for justice.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Awesome job US Military, one boogieman down one to go.

I would re-enlist just to be the triggerman.

But the detractors have already begun, first it was where is Saddam? You havent done anything until he is caught.

Now it will be something else, like well OBL is still running loose.

How come gasoline prices are not .25 cents a gallon yet?
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Old 12-14-2003, 10:01 AM   #22 (permalink)
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And from Phaenx in the General Discussion thread:

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Like hell, he's a monster. Crucify him.

These kind of statements really, truly frighten me. I mean, I know (or perhaps I hope) you're half kidding when you say things like this, but still, the mere thought that you want to turn this into a witch hunt, instead of actual, mature justice, sends chills down my spine.
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Old 12-14-2003, 10:01 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Living in a hole in the ground. No mention in any report concerning comm capabilities and only $750k. My common sense tells me the only thing Saddam has been doing is hiding and growing a beard.

As far as show trials go this won't move the King of Pop one pica space.

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Old 12-14-2003, 10:28 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I am glad they finally caught him, I only wish they had killed him, or he had killed himself. What a coward. Living in a whole with rats for bunk mates. How appropriate and fitting.

I wonder who turned him in for that 25 million dollar prize?

Congratualations are in order to the US special forces who caught this guy and to all the US and British military personell. As much as i have always disagreed with the reasons for this war, I admire the sacrifices that they have made and their bravery.

If I have one hope out of this it is that somehow the capture of saddam as a coward will demoralize those fighting for his old regime.
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:28 AM   #25 (permalink)
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These kind of statements really, truly frighten me. I mean, I know (or perhaps I hope) you're half kidding when you say things like this, but still, the mere thought that you want to turn this into a witch hunt, instead of actual, mature justice, sends chills down my spine.
I'm being literal. Crucify him. The most painful death I can think of myself, and yet it's still not enough. This man killed hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people. For decades he terrorized the citizens of Iraq, bullying raping and killing, what about them? You'd slap Saddam on the wrist and send him on his way, because fuck the victims right?

No, I'm not kidding, he needs to die.
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:41 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm being literal. Crucify him. The most painful death I can think of myself, and yet it's still not enough. This man killed hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people. For decades he terrorized the citizens of Iraq, bullying raping and killing, what about them? You'd slap Saddam on the wrist and send him on his way, because fuck the victims right?

No, I'm not kidding, he needs to die.
The US didn't care back then, why should they care now?
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:59 AM   #27 (permalink)
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It wasn't a matter of apathy. It's not prudent to dispatch of two enemies that are wiping each other out, what did you want? For the U.S. to go in there and crush both Iran and Iraq? They were doing the same job themselves, and we didn't even have to worry about all these other pissant nations bitching at us. But that isn't relevant to my statement. The point is that I care, that's why I say we make him pay for it.
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Old 12-14-2003, 01:18 PM   #28 (permalink)
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And from Phaenx in the General Discussion thread:




These kind of statements really, truly frighten me. I mean, I know (or perhaps I hope) you're half kidding when you say things like this, but still, the mere thought that you want to turn this into a witch hunt, instead of actual, mature justice, sends chills down my spine.
If they need any help just whistle - I'll be glad to come help!
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Old 12-14-2003, 01:43 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Prophecy, how's about this deal: Saddam tells the US where the WMDs are, and they'll persuade their Iraqi friends not to execute him. They might even send him to the Hague instead...
That's assuming there are WMD still in Iraq. Say what you will but perhaps the weapons where never there, or perhaps Saddam sold them off or dismantled them. Odds are we should have found something by now if they are there.

Whatever the case, the man looks like he's been living on the run. He was found in a dirt crawl space for god's sake. What makes you think he has any decent intel to give anyone?



I agree with 2wolves whole heartedly.

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Living in a hole in the ground. No mention in any report concerning comm capabilities and only $750k. My common sense tells me the only thing Saddam has been doing is hiding and growing a beard.
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Old 12-14-2003, 02:09 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Great news! How appropriate, Saddam in a hole like the rat he is.
If he had half a sack he would at least have put up a token fight so they could have put him out of his misery.
He had loaded weapons on him and instead of acting like the soldier he proclaims to be, he cowered like a baby and surrendered.
No sentence could be too severe for that murdering asshole.
Now to find Osama Bin Hidin.
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Old 12-14-2003, 02:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm being literal. Crucify him.
No, I'm not kidding, he needs to die.
Yes lets treat him like jesus that will be real good. Mabye we can televise it live so people like you can watch it. How many extra US soldiers do you would die if we did that? Think before you speak please.

Personally I think its good that we found him alive because if nothing elce it eliminates any conspericy theories.
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Old 12-14-2003, 02:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Cut the condescending bullshit.

I've thought quite a bit about it, and decided not to be a pussy because:

a) Generally, I believe mass-murderers deserve the death penalty.

And of course,

b) Noone likes him anyways.

I'm sure the oppressed people of Iraq are going to see what we've done and go "Hey, they killed the guy who stole my money, killed my family and raped my wife, lets get them."

You'll have to forgive me for thinking that's stupid. Also, I would LOVE to watch him die.
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Old 12-14-2003, 03:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Im so glad the US troops caught this son of a bitch but I don't think it's going to change much in Iraq. Like many have said on here, all of hiz followers will target the US as their enemy and start building army's just like Saddam did. It's just a matter of time before another war and/or acts of terrorism breaks out.
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Old 12-14-2003, 03:07 PM   #34 (permalink)
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He still has supporters. Killing him ,almost certainly, would directly result in Marines being killed that otherwise would not have. Then again, to be fair, locking him up might result in extra deaths of US marines as well...

Now its not like he dosent deserve to die, its just that doing so might create more bad than good, ESPICALLY if we did it in some public way like Crucifiction.
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Old 12-14-2003, 03:18 PM   #35 (permalink)
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It wasn't a matter of apathy. It's not prudent to dispatch of two enemies that are wiping each other out, what did you want? For the U.S. to go in there and crush both Iran and Iraq? They were doing the same job themselves, and we didn't even have to worry about all these other pissant nations bitching at us. But that isn't relevant to my statement. The point is that I care, that's why I say we make him pay for it.
You are right, it wasn't apathy, it was approval. We gave him the weapons that he used, yes, the chemical weapons that he used. This is hypocrisy in the extreme.
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Old 12-14-2003, 05:09 PM   #36 (permalink)
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He still has supporters. Killing him ,almost certainly, would directly result in Marines being killed that otherwise would not have. Then again, to be fair, locking him up might result in extra deaths of US marines as well...

Now its not like he dosent deserve to die, its just that doing so might create more bad than good, ESPICALLY if we did it in some public way like Crucifiction.
Yeah, like those guys weren't going to attack us anyways. Barring an attempt to rescue Saddam (won't happen, I bet the security around him is obcene), I doubt they'll change their targets as well.

Might create more bad than good, like what? France might not like us? Saddams loyalists might try to kill us? Liberals might piss and moan? You see where I'm going with this, screw them. Justice, now that's a precious commodity in the west these days.
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Old 12-14-2003, 05:15 PM   #37 (permalink)
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You are right, it wasn't apathy, it was approval. We gave him the weapons that he used, yes, the chemical weapons that he used. This is hypocrisy in the extreme.
Oh, in that case they must have skipped the "Hey, we're going to use these on our civilians instead of the Iranian soldiers, bye." clause.
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Old 12-14-2003, 05:47 PM   #38 (permalink)
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My opinion is that the capture of Saddam Hussein will benefit the world; if he is convicted by the Iraqi people. Saddam is a monster, equal to Hitler in that he is a dictator who has attempted genocide and has grown an army from hatred and fear which used to suppress his own people’ conscious and invaded another country with the ultimate goal of domination and retribution.
A very good friend of mine is a JAG Officer helping to write the new requirements for trial in an Iraqi controlled Nation. He has visited the mass graves and the torture chambers and has sent brief accounts of the suffering inflicted on the common man. Feel no sorrow for Saddam.
I do not believe the attacks on the Coalition will stop, but I have hope that justice will be served and prevail.
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Old 12-14-2003, 06:07 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Funny though, the US knew all about what he was using them for for 10-11 years and even took Iraq of the terrorist-list and loaned them money...

and now he's a bad guy?
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Old 12-14-2003, 07:03 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Yes lets treat him like jesus that will be real good. Mabye we can televise it live so people like you can watch it.
Pay per view? Proceeds to go to lowering the national debt.

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