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seretogis · 11-07-2003, 09:55 PM

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"As WorldNetDaily reported, the new Harvey Milk High School opened this fall with 100 homosexual students, after undergoing a $3.2 million publicly funded renovation.

Using a rule prohibiting discrimination based on "sexual orientation," a group of New Yorkers filed suit challenging NYC's use of public funds to establish the first homosexuals-only high school in the Big Apple.

Democratic New York State Sen. Ruben Diaz Sr. and a mother representing her four children, all of whom attend New York City schools, are the plaintiffs in the case, represented by attorneys from the Liberty Counsel."

This, to me, is completely ridiculous. Whoever gave out the $3.2 million for a school serving only one hundred students, should be forced to pay it back to the taxpayers out of their own pocket(s). There's no reason for a homosexual-only public school, just as there is no reason for a white-only public school.

Food Eater Lad · 11-07-2003, 09:58 PM

Remember, seperate but equal is now part of the Democratic platform.

seretogis · 11-07-2003, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
Remember, seperate but equal is now part of the Democratic platform.

You'll note that a Democrat senator is one of the people filing suit against the school. I don't think this is really the thread for mindless Dem-bashing.

Food Eater Lad · 11-07-2003, 10:06 PM

Well, considering this was a democratic sponcered program i beg to differ.

seretogis · 11-07-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
Well, considering this was a democratic sponcered program i beg to differ.

Perhaps you could post a source for that information, as long as you don't have to sit on a copy-machine to get a hard-copy of it?

Food Eater Lad · 11-07-2003, 10:14 PM

As a teacher for the Department of Ed for the NYC school system I can tell you without fear of reprimand that the Department is solidly packed with Democrats, as is the state legislature.

Here are the members of the state legislature, peruse the number of democrates in the NYC area.

http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/

j8ear · 11-07-2003, 10:15 PM

agree...3.2 mil for 100 students seems ludicrous. Is it expected to grow in size and some how offer a curriculumn that creates people who thrive in this world?

Is it exclusively for hs's? Can straights go too?

-bear

j8ear · 11-07-2003, 10:19 PM

FEL...every single freaking public school system in the country is.

Let's hear you talk about educating youngsters...

Food Eater Lad · 11-07-2003, 10:28 PM

What do you want to hear?

mml · 11-07-2003, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by seretogis
This, to me, is completely ridiculous. Whoever gave out the $3.2 million for a school serving only one hundred students, should be forced to pay it back to the taxpayers out of their own pocket(s). There's no reason for a homosexual-only public school, just as there is no reason for a white-only public school. [/B]

I couldn't agree more. I seems preposterous to me that this could ever happen. I realize that in society, particularly adolescent society, homosexuals have a very difficult time, however, things will never get easier for them if they are separate/segregated from everyone else. Acceptance comes form knowlege and experience. Does anyone have more info on the origins/history of this program?

P.S. FEL, please stop your knee-jerk "everything bad is due to Demcrats" posts, it weakens your persuasiveness. When you take time and explain your point of view you, your are much more influential and entertaining. When you simply shoot off a "It's the Dem's fault" post with no real backup, you make other want to just skip your posts. You have intelligent (while IMO misguided

) opinions - don't take the easy road.

Food Eater Lad · 11-07-2003, 10:35 PM

So it was a republican idea for this school? Who runs the Department of Ed in NY and the state assembly mml?

j8ear · 11-07-2003, 10:40 PM

what difference does it make...is there such a school? One hundred gay students? In NYC? Which cost 3.2 million? Does it educate youngsters? Will it begin to education more?

What do you know about this school?

-bear

j8ear · 11-07-2003, 10:47 PM

Here is the first thing google had to offer on a search for:

Harvey Milk High School

here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2720295a12,00.html

Police arrest students at gay high school
08 November 2003

NEW YORK: Five boys who attend a New York high school for gay and lesbian students are accused of dressing as female prostitutes and robbing unsuspecting customers, police said yesterday.

Dressed as women, the five approached men seeking prostitutes in Manhattan's West Village, a popular spot for the illicit sex trade. They then posed as undercover police as they stripped their victims of their wallets, credit cards, bank cards and cash, police said.

The youths, all aged 17 except for one 16-year-old, are charged with robbery and criminal impersonation of a police officer and will be charged as adults, police said.

Wearing wigs, earrings and makeup, the youths robbed five men, flashing phony police badges and handcuffing their victims, police said.

"You couldn't put this in a book. Nobody would believe it," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a weekly radio appearance.

The teens attend the city's Harvey Milk high school for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender students, police said.

They are suspected of committing other robberies as well, and police are asking other possible victims to come forward.

The youths were arrested Thursday by plainclothes police who recognized one of them from the victims' descriptions.

-bear

bermuDa · 11-07-2003, 10:59 PM

this is deplorable. I see the argument that these students deserve a learning environment free of discrimination... but how about we concentrate on raising kids who are accepting of different sexual orientations instead of quarantining the homosexuals so both sides can be happy and well adjusted until they finally do encounter each other? or is that out of the question?

and j8ear, that article has left me speechless.

Phaenx · 11-07-2003, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by seretogis
LINKY LINKY

This, to me, is completely ridiculous. Whoever gave out the $3.2 million for a school serving only one hundred students, should be forced to pay it back to the taxpayers out of their own pocket(s). There's no reason for a homosexual-only public school, just as there is no reason for a white-only public school.

I think they should pay it back out of their hide. That's obcene.

ObieX · 11-08-2003, 12:59 AM

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Originally posted by seretogis
LINKY LINKY

This, to me, is completely ridiculous. Whoever gave out the $3.2 million for a school serving only one hundred students, should be forced to pay it back to the taxpayers out of their own pocket(s). There's no reason for a homosexual-only public school, just as there is no reason for a white-only public school.

Shit I'm still waiting for my $3.2Mil for that "green-grey-blue-eyed 6'2" brown hair'd strait skinny Irish-American males only" highschool. I'm sick of the other kids making fun of me and calling me "poopoo-head" and "hey, kid". ...of course it's too late now since I've graduated. Fucking politicians, always dragging their feet on the important issues.

datalink7 · 11-13-2003, 10:37 PM

There is a reason seperate but equal didn't work...

Apparently these people didn't get the memo (or the history book).

11-07-2003, 10:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	As a teacher for the Department of Ed for the NYC school system I can tell you without fear of reprimand that the Department is solidly packed with Democrats, as is the state legislature. Here are the members of the state legislature, peruse the number of democrates in the NYC area. http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/ Last edited by Food Eater Lad; 11-07-2003 at 10:18 PM..

11-07-2003, 10:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
j8ear Gentlemen Farmer Location: Middle of nowhere, Jersey	agree...3.2 mil for 100 students seems ludicrous. Is it expected to grow in size and some how offer a curriculumn that creates people who thrive in this world? Is it exclusively for hs's? Can straights go too? -bear __________________ It's alot easier to ask for forgiveness then it is to ask for permission.

11-07-2003, 10:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
j8ear Gentlemen Farmer Location: Middle of nowhere, Jersey	FEL...every single freaking public school system in the country is. Let's hear you talk about educating youngsters... __________________ It's alot easier to ask for forgiveness then it is to ask for permission.

11-07-2003, 10:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
j8ear Gentlemen Farmer Location: Middle of nowhere, Jersey	what difference does it make...is there such a school? One hundred gay students? In NYC? Which cost 3.2 million? Does it educate youngsters? Will it begin to education more? What do you know about this school? -bear __________________ It's alot easier to ask for forgiveness then it is to ask for permission.

11-07-2003, 10:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
j8ear Gentlemen Farmer Location: Middle of nowhere, Jersey	Here is the first thing google had to offer on a search for: Harvey Milk High School here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2720295a12,00.html Police arrest students at gay high school 08 November 2003 NEW YORK: Five boys who attend a New York high school for gay and lesbian students are accused of dressing as female prostitutes and robbing unsuspecting customers, police said yesterday. Dressed as women, the five approached men seeking prostitutes in Manhattan's West Village, a popular spot for the illicit sex trade. They then posed as undercover police as they stripped their victims of their wallets, credit cards, bank cards and cash, police said. The youths, all aged 17 except for one 16-year-old, are charged with robbery and criminal impersonation of a police officer and will be charged as adults, police said. Wearing wigs, earrings and makeup, the youths robbed five men, flashing phony police badges and handcuffing their victims, police said. "You couldn't put this in a book. Nobody would believe it," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a weekly radio appearance. The teens attend the city's Harvey Milk high school for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender students, police said. They are suspected of committing other robberies as well, and police are asking other possible victims to come forward. The youths were arrested Thursday by plainclothes police who recognized one of them from the victims' descriptions. -bear __________________ It's alot easier to ask for forgiveness then it is to ask for permission.

11-07-2003, 09:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	Remember, seperate but equal is now part of the Democratic platform.

11-07-2003, 10:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	Well, considering this was a democratic sponcered program i beg to differ.

11-07-2003, 10:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	What do you want to hear?

11-07-2003, 10:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	So it was a republican idea for this school? Who runs the Department of Ed in NY and the state assembly mml?

11-07-2003, 10:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
bermuDa don't ignore this--> Location: CA	this is deplorable. I see the argument that these students deserve a learning environment free of discrimination... but how about we concentrate on raising kids who are accepting of different sexual orientations instead of quarantining the homosexuals so both sides can be happy and well adjusted until they finally do encounter each other? or is that out of the question? and j8ear, that article has left me speechless. __________________ I am the very model of a moderator gentleman.

11-13-2003, 10:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
datalink7 Upright Location: Corvallis, OR, USA	There is a reason seperate but equal didn't work... Apparently these people didn't get the memo (or the history book). __________________ Ashes and diamons foe and friend we are all equal in the end.