"Freedom Fries" a Good Idea? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

KnifeMissile · 11-02-2003, 12:11 PM

Maybe it's just me but I can't help but think that it was a total wasted of time for the Senate (or wherever, I'm no American) to pass a bill to rename french fries (and french toast, I hear). Don't they have more pressing issues to discuss? Hell, french fries aren't even French! You were already mocking them by calling them that...

So, who thinks that "freedom fries," were a good idea?
Who thinks they were a waste of time?

seretogis · 11-02-2003, 12:35 PM

This is old, and really not as big of a deal as you are making it.

Food Eater Lad · 11-02-2003, 12:36 PM

I think it was silly and childish.

KnifeMissile · 11-02-2003, 12:53 PM

Sorry, I had forgotten to search for previous threads.

I have tried to delete this thread but, apparently, I do not have permission to do so...

Moderators, help!

reconmike · 11-02-2003, 06:44 PM

they are " potatoes du cowards" anyhow.

The_Dude · 11-02-2003, 06:48 PM

just a waste of time and moeny.

almostaugust · 11-02-2003, 09:02 PM

One of the most childish things i've seen.

gabshu · 11-02-2003, 09:10 PM

I live in DC, and it was here in congress where they changed the manes. I think its stupid, heard it on SNL for the first time and I thought it was just a joke, but it really makes you woner how stupid a country can be.

mystmarimatt · 11-02-2003, 09:23 PM

i wrote a whole satirical essay making fun of it

Dilbert1234567 · 11-03-2003, 01:13 PM

its sooo dumb, they are french fries, that is waht they are called.

Liquor Dealer · 11-03-2003, 01:31 PM

A rose by any other name is still a rose.

seretogis · 11-03-2003, 01:44 PM

Are you sure that Congress was involved? When I heard about this, it was only changed to "Freedom Fries" on the menu of Airforce One, which sounds like an extremely small change for a very small number of people which was blown completely out of proportion.

eple · 11-03-2003, 02:07 PM

I heard that the whole "freedom fries" idea was created and performed by the same sailors who made that whole "mission accomplished" banner, they were just doing it for a joke, see. Turns out those guys could have initiated the war in Iraq too, their crazy antics have repeatedly put the Bush administration in a bad light.

Liquor Dealer · 11-03-2003, 02:23 PM

While much of this has been done in jest there remains serious differences between the US and France. One might assume that these differences are affecting France in the only way they seem to understand - financially. I'm not sure of figures but I do know that in our industry there has been a dramatic decrease in the purchase of French wines - one of their chief exports and one of the most profitable. Many in our industry have found that we are doing fine without them and because of their absence many consumers in America have changed their buying habits. I know that in our stores, and in most others in our area we are suggesting Australian wines in their place - they are much more ecomical and usually of a better quality. If all of us would stop buying "French" it would have a definite impact on them.

Ustwo · 11-03-2003, 03:00 PM

While I thought the freedom fry thing was silly, I have not purchased a French product since this whole mess started. Since it is obvious that cash is the most important thing to the French, they can get it from somewhere else.

Its a small thing, but so what, Wisconsin makes fine cheese, California has fine wine

eple · 11-03-2003, 03:47 PM

The whole idea of trying to harm France is childish.

Mojo_PeiPei · 11-03-2003, 03:53 PM

Why? They tried to spite us for their own selfish reasons, we are just paying them back.

eple · 11-03-2003, 03:58 PM

Yes by all means, if they started, clearly you have every right to act childish.

Why did that arguement never work out in kindergarden?

Mojo_PeiPei · 11-03-2003, 04:05 PM

You Europeans feel we are oil hoarding war mongerers. We feel (great percentage of Americans) that the French are a bunch of punk made bitch ingreats who have forgotten what our country has done for them. We showed our displeasure by hitting them where it hurts there pocketbooks.

eple · 11-03-2003, 04:12 PM

Thank you for telling me how I feel, I appreciate that. Clearly, as a member of the homogenic 500-million populace of Europe, I match the views that are held by all other citizens of the continent. As a Norwegian (though we are not a member of the EU), I support every move done by France, ezpecially trying to stop a war because they want to keep trading oil with a dictator. This might seem morally wrong, but being an European, sharing strong bonds with all fellow Europeans including those living in entirely different cultures, I choose to ignore it. I am pleased to see that you avoid the bothersome moral highground by jumping the patriot bandwagon and follow some bizarre propaganda-whim in a non-constructive pissfight with another nation. Good luck to you all.

Liquor Dealer · 11-03-2003, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eple
Thank you for telling me how I feel, I appreciate that. Clearly, as a member of the homogenic 500-million populace of Europe, I match the views that are held by all other citizens of the continent. As a Norwegian (though we are not a member of the EU), I support every move done by France, ezpecially trying to stop a war because they want to keep trading oil with a dictator. This might seem morally wrong, but being an European, sharing strong bonds with all fellow Europeans including those living in entirely different cultures, I choose to ignore it. I am pleased to see that you avoid the bothersome moral highground by jumping the patriot bandwagon and follow some bizarre propaganda-whim in a non-constructive pissfight with another nation. Good luck to you all.

I decided to remove my reply to your pompous bullshit

eple · 11-03-2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liquor Dealer
I am sure that somewhere in France these is probably a board much like this one that would appreciate you ass kissin' much more than this one does.

I am sorry you didn't comprehend, but I did say that France vetoed in the UN mostly based on their trade connections with the Saddam regime. I did not kiss France's ass, I flipped you both off for being childish. Read my post again, reply if you want to. I hear rumors that irony is less common in the US than in Norway (my half-american gf said that, not me), but this shouldn't be too hard.

Quick translation of my previous post:
->Both France and the US are acting stupid
->Smart Americans should avoid a stupid pissfight like this, ->anyone living in Europe can not neccecarily be generalized within some vauge kliche's regarding French people.

eple · 11-03-2003, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Liquor Dealer
I decided to remove my reply to your pompous bullshit

Good thing I saved your first answer then, so everyne can see how your posts evolved from moronic personal attacks based on a lack of comprehension of your own language, to just plain personal attacks.

s1em · 11-03-2003, 05:39 PM

By the way, I just wanted to mention that "freedom fries" really were a Congressional thing. I know because it was a Congressman from my state who spearheaded it all: Bob Ney. I think he's a chowderhead, but I think I'm in the minority.

splck · 11-03-2003, 06:00 PM

I have to agree with most here that this whole issue and the way it is carrying on is childish and kindergaden like. Changing french fries to freedom fries is stupid enough, but having people defend it blows me away. Are we still children here?
Boycotting wine and other stuff does absoluty nothing to change what has happened in regards to Iraq, so let's all have a glass of wine and grow up.

gabshu · 11-03-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
Are you sure that Congress was involved? When I heard about this, it was only changed to "Freedom Fries" on the menu of Airforce One, which sounds like an extremely small change for a very small number of people which was blown completely out of proportion.

Yes, in the cafeteria of congress french fries were changed to freedomo fries, and french toast was changed to freedom toast. pretty stupid if you ask me.

Ustwo · 11-03-2003, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by splck
I have to agree with most here that this whole issue and the way it is carrying on is childish and kindergaden like. Changing french fries to freedom fries is stupid enough, but having people defend it blows me away. Are we still children here?
Boycotting wine and other stuff does absoluty nothing to change what has happened in regards to Iraq, so let's all have a glass of wine and grow up.

Frances defense of Iraq was based on money, so they can get it from someone else besides me. This isn't childish, I just decided not to support French industry in my small way. Its not like France is the only place to get a good bottle of wine.

When in defense of French trade and ELF oil contracts, France did all in its power to keep Saddam in power, all 'childishness' went away. There is nothing childish about mass graves.

filtherton · 11-03-2003, 10:19 PM

So we renamed them freedom fries because france started acting like the us. You know, putting their national interest ahead of anyone else. I think it was actually a compliment. Like, "Good Job, France! You're finally learning from our example, for a short period of time all references to you in our country will now be replaced with the word freedom in your honor."

ARTelevision · 11-03-2003, 10:26 PM

Personally, I like the idea of calling them Freedom Fries instead of French Fries. I think it's a great idea. But it's not something I would argue about. It's just a personal preference.

Astrocloud · 11-03-2003, 11:22 PM

Personally I think that naming our saturated fat sticks after the french was more of an insult than renaming them.

dog1 · 11-04-2003, 03:00 PM

Oh my, the French aren't war mongers. Let's insult them !!

debaser · 11-04-2003, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eple
As a Norwegian (though we are not a member of the EU), I support every move done by France, ezpecially trying to stop a war because they want to keep trading oil with a dictator. This might seem morally wrong, but being an European, sharing strong bonds with all fellow Europeans including those living in entirely different cultures, I choose to ignore it.

Quote:

I am pleased to see that you avoid the bothersome moral highground by jumping the patriot bandwagon and follow some bizarre propaganda-whim in a non-constructive pissfight with another nation.

The irony is slaying me...

phredgreen · 11-04-2003, 03:35 PM

another thread closed...

people, this was a lighthearted thread about fries and it's turned into an <b>intercontinental</b> pissing contest. surely you guys have something better to do than insult people who don't think the same way you do?

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11-02-2003, 12:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
KnifeMissile Location: Waterloo, Ontario	"Freedom Fries" a Good Idea? Maybe it's just me but I can't help but think that it was a total wasted of time for the Senate (or wherever, I'm no American) to pass a bill to rename french fries (and french toast, I hear). Don't they have more pressing issues to discuss? Hell, french fries aren't even French! You were already mocking them by calling them that... So, who thinks that "freedom fries," were a good idea? Who thinks they were a waste of time? Last edited by KnifeMissile; 11-02-2003 at 12:52 PM..

11-02-2003, 12:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	This is old, and really not as big of a deal as you are making it. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

11-02-2003, 06:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
reconmike Thank You Jesus Location: Twilight Zone	they are " potatoes du cowards" anyhow. __________________ Where is Darwin when ya need him?

11-02-2003, 06:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	just a waste of time and moeny. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

11-02-2003, 12:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	I think it was silly and childish.

11-02-2003, 12:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
KnifeMissile Location: Waterloo, Ontario	Sorry, I had forgotten to search for previous threads. I have tried to delete this thread but, apparently, I do not have permission to do so... Moderators, help!

11-02-2003, 09:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	One of the most childish things i've seen. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

11-02-2003, 09:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
gabshu Psycho Location: The capital of the free world??	I live in DC, and it was here in congress where they changed the manes. I think its stupid, heard it on SNL for the first time and I thought it was just a joke, but it really makes you woner how stupid a country can be. __________________ Go Kool Aid. OH YEAAHH http://www.retrocrush.com/archive2003/koolaid/

11-02-2003, 09:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
mystmarimatt Omnipotent Ruler Of The Tiny Universe In My Mind Location: Oreegawn	i wrote a whole satirical essay making fun of it __________________ Words of Wisdom: If you could really get to know someone and know that they weren't lying to you, then you would know the world was real. Because you could agree on things, you could compare notes. That must be why people get married or make Art. So they'll be able to really know something and not go insane.

11-03-2003, 01:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567 Devils Cabana Boy Location: Central Coast CA	its sooo dumb, they are french fries, that is waht they are called. __________________ Donate Blood! "Love is not finding the perfect person, but learning to see an imperfect person perfectly." -Sam Keen

11-03-2003, 01:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	A rose by any other name is still a rose. __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!

11-03-2003, 01:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	Are you sure that Congress was involved? When I heard about this, it was only changed to "Freedom Fries" on the menu of Airforce One, which sounds like an extremely small change for a very small number of people which was blown completely out of proportion. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

11-03-2003, 02:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
eple Banned Location: norway	I heard that the whole "freedom fries" idea was created and performed by the same sailors who made that whole "mission accomplished" banner, they were just doing it for a joke, see. Turns out those guys could have initiated the war in Iraq too, their crazy antics have repeatedly put the Bush administration in a bad light.

11-03-2003, 02:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	While much of this has been done in jest there remains serious differences between the US and France. One might assume that these differences are affecting France in the only way they seem to understand - financially. I'm not sure of figures but I do know that in our industry there has been a dramatic decrease in the purchase of French wines - one of their chief exports and one of the most profitable. Many in our industry have found that we are doing fine without them and because of their absence many consumers in America have changed their buying habits. I know that in our stores, and in most others in our area we are suggesting Australian wines in their place - they are much more ecomical and usually of a better quality. If all of us would stop buying "French" it would have a definite impact on them. __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!

11-03-2003, 03:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	While I thought the freedom fry thing was silly, I have not purchased a French product since this whole mess started. Since it is obvious that cash is the most important thing to the French, they can get it from somewhere else. Its a small thing, but so what, Wisconsin makes fine cheese, California has fine wine __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

11-03-2003, 03:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
eple Banned Location: norway	The whole idea of trying to harm France is childish.

11-03-2003, 03:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	Why? They tried to spite us for their own selfish reasons, we are just paying them back. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

11-03-2003, 03:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
eple Banned Location: norway	Yes by all means, if they started, clearly you have every right to act childish. Why did that arguement never work out in kindergarden?

11-03-2003, 04:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	You Europeans feel we are oil hoarding war mongerers. We feel (great percentage of Americans) that the French are a bunch of punk made bitch ingreats who have forgotten what our country has done for them. We showed our displeasure by hitting them where it hurts there pocketbooks. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

11-03-2003, 04:12 PM	#20 (permalink)
eple Banned Location: norway	Thank you for telling me how I feel, I appreciate that. Clearly, as a member of the homogenic 500-million populace of Europe, I match the views that are held by all other citizens of the continent. As a Norwegian (though we are not a member of the EU), I support every move done by France, ezpecially trying to stop a war because they want to keep trading oil with a dictator. This might seem morally wrong, but being an European, sharing strong bonds with all fellow Europeans including those living in entirely different cultures, I choose to ignore it. I am pleased to see that you avoid the bothersome moral highground by jumping the patriot bandwagon and follow some bizarre propaganda-whim in a non-constructive pissfight with another nation. Good luck to you all.

11-03-2003, 05:39 PM	#24 (permalink)
s1em Prisoner of Mars	By the way, I just wanted to mention that "freedom fries" really were a Congressional thing. I know because it was a Congressman from my state who spearheaded it all: Bob Ney. I think he's a chowderhead, but I think I'm in the minority.

11-03-2003, 06:00 PM	#25 (permalink)
splck it's jam Location: Lowerainland BC	I have to agree with most here that this whole issue and the way it is carrying on is childish and kindergaden like. Changing french fries to freedom fries is stupid enough, but having people defend it blows me away. Are we still children here? Boycotting wine and other stuff does absoluty nothing to change what has happened in regards to Iraq, so let's all have a glass of wine and grow up. __________________ nice line eh?

11-03-2003, 10:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	So we renamed them freedom fries because france started acting like the us. You know, putting their national interest ahead of anyone else. I think it was actually a compliment. Like, "Good Job, France! You're finally learning from our example, for a short period of time all references to you in our country will now be replaced with the word freedom in your honor."

11-03-2003, 10:26 PM	#29 (permalink)
ARTelevision I change Location: USA	Personally, I like the idea of calling them Freedom Fries instead of French Fries. I think it's a great idea. But it's not something I would argue about. It's just a personal preference. __________________ create evolution

11-03-2003, 11:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
Astrocloud Apocalypse Nerd	Personally I think that naming our saturated fat sticks after the french was more of an insult than renaming them.

11-04-2003, 03:00 PM	#31 (permalink)
dog1 Upright	Oh my, the French aren't war mongers. Let's insult them !!

11-04-2003, 03:35 PM	#33 (permalink)
phredgreen who? Location: the phoenix metro	another thread closed... people, this was a lighthearted thread about fries and it's turned into an <b>intercontinental</b> pissing contest. surely you guys have something better to do than insult people who don't think the same way you do? __________________ My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine