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Liquor Dealer · 04-28-2003, 11:42 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85388,00.html

Report: Anthrax in Suitcase Kills Egyptian Heading to Canada

An Egyptian ship crewman has apparently died from exposure to anthrax (search) contained in a suitcase he opened, Reuters news service reported Monday............

Ibrahim, a crewman aboard an Egyptian merchant ship called the Wabi Alaras (search), was transporting the suitcase to Canada, although authorities do not believe he knew what was in the bag, according to Reuters..........

"He opened it because he was curious," Castro told Reuters. "We imagine that this is about bioterrorism and Brazil was just used as a point of transfer

stan the man · 04-28-2003, 11:57 AM

i just did a search on cbc and it seems thye are a bit behind on the story today

http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/CBC/2003..._anthrax030427

"The deceased man visited a farm, and doctors think he may have come in contact with an infected animal."

Lebell · 04-28-2003, 11:59 AM

Liquor Dealer!

I thought you might have been posting under another name!

Good to see you man!

The_Dude · 04-28-2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stan the man
i just did a search on cbc and it seems thye are a bit behind on the story today

http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/CBC/2003..._anthrax030427

"The deceased man visited a farm, and doctors think he may have come in contact with an infected animal."

exactly, i didnt see the point in 'em attacking canada.

unless it's to transport to US

SaltPork · 04-28-2003, 07:56 PM

My guess is that the intended target was the US, not Canada. Our border with Canada is easy pickin's for anyone that wants to get in illegally.

stan the man · 04-29-2003, 08:57 AM

yes the canadian boarder is easiy to get across

so is the us's vast coast lines and that pesky southern boader that lets in the majority of new americans doesnt help much either

blaming the canadains is just some great idea one of the hawks had after they watched the movie canadain bacon

http://www.mgm.com/audiotrax.do?wma=...ma&artist=Alan

Dragonlich · 04-29-2003, 09:23 AM

Stan, the Canadian border is still the best way to smuggle stuff into the US. The "vast coastlines" are not that great for merchant ships, especially with US coastal patrols going on. The southern border is too heavily policed for a terrorist: their chances of getting caught are huge, seeing that even Mexican smugglers would get suspicious when an Arab tries to get into the US there.

stan the man · 04-29-2003, 10:36 AM

and how do you explain the vast amounts of drugs that enter the us thourgh all of its boarders

and why think that arabs are the only ones the us should be lookin out for

Bob Biter · 04-29-2003, 11:20 AM

Well, anyone trying to get into the US from here must deal with US customs, not Canadian customs, so while it is true that potential terrorists might immigrate here and attempt to enter the US, American agents let them in, not us.

stan the man · 04-29-2003, 12:30 PM

if everyone who comes into the us has to deal with us customs how do you explain the vast amount of illegal immigrants on us soil

and thats my point if you want to get into the us you can

the us should stop crying about canadian customs

Liquor Dealer · 04-29-2003, 12:47 PM

We have relied on distance to protect us in the past- That worked in WW ll. On only a few occasions were the Japanese or Germans able to pose a threat other than with submarines. That was then and this is now. While 9-11 should have been a wakeup call for all of us, it wasn't - As easy as it is to get into the U.S. legally (for a defined period of time), why would one draw the attention that trying to enter illegally attracts. While visas may be somewhat more difficult to get now than they were in the past there is hardly no way that this or any other country can guard its borders against state supported terrorists. If a government is willing to provide the necessary paperwork - that of a student, for business purposes, to seek medical attention, to visit Aunt Hilda, or with 10 jillion different forms of diplomatic free passes available. The Mexican border, to those who use it on a regular basis is not even a speed bump - nor is the Canadian border. Terrorism is no different than assassination. There is no possible way that a person can be protected against an assassin if the assassin is willing to die. The same is true for any other form of terrorism - if they are willing to die, and this appears to be a desirable end for religious extremists, then absolutely nothing can provide 100% protection. Our only choice, if we want to be totally free from these types of threats is isolationism and I doubt that in today's world any nation could totally isolate itself - much less the US being capable of it.

Bob Biter · 04-30-2003, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stan the man
if everyone who comes into the us has to deal with us customs how do you explain the vast amount of illegal immigrants on us soil

and thats my point if you want to get into the us you can

the us should stop crying about canadian customs

My point was that the US shouldn't point fingers at anyone but themselves regarding people entering their country legally or illegally. In essence, I'm agreeing with you: blaming Canadian customs agents is utterly pointless.

stan the man · 04-30-2003, 11:19 AM

i realized your point i was just finishing my thought

take off eh
koo loo koo koo
koo loo koo koo

stan the man · 04-30-2003, 11:26 AM

hey just found this

Anthrax scare unfounded
MONTREAL - The death of an Egyptian sailor on a ship bound for the Saguenay was not caused by anthrax.

http://montreal.cbc.ca/regional/serv...nthrax20030430

Bob Biter · 04-30-2003, 12:28 PM

Yeah, poor guy just ate a poutine and died of dysentery.

04-28-2003, 11:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	Canada Threatened http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85388,00.html Report: Anthrax in Suitcase Kills Egyptian Heading to Canada An Egyptian ship crewman has apparently died from exposure to anthrax (search) contained in a suitcase he opened, Reuters news service reported Monday............ Ibrahim, a crewman aboard an Egyptian merchant ship called the Wabi Alaras (search), was transporting the suitcase to Canada, although authorities do not believe he knew what was in the bag, according to Reuters.......... "He opened it because he was curious," Castro told Reuters. "We imagine that this is about bioterrorism and Brazil was just used as a point of transfer __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!

04-28-2003, 11:57 AM	#2 (permalink)
stan the man Insane	i just did a search on cbc and it seems thye are a bit behind on the story today http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/CBC/2003..._anthrax030427 "The deceased man visited a farm, and doctors think he may have come in contact with an infected animal." __________________ long live the hud

04-28-2003, 11:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Liquor Dealer! I thought you might have been posting under another name! Good to see you man! __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

04-28-2003, 07:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
SaltPork Everything's better with bacon Location: In your local grocer's freezer.	My guess is that the intended target was the US, not Canada. Our border with Canada is easy pickin's for anyone that wants to get in illegally. __________________ It was like that when I got here....I swear.

04-29-2003, 10:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
stan the man Insane	and how do you explain the vast amounts of drugs that enter the us thourgh all of its boarders and why think that arabs are the only ones the us should be lookin out for __________________ long live the hud

04-29-2003, 08:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
stan the man Insane	yes the canadian boarder is easiy to get across so is the us's vast coast lines and that pesky southern boader that lets in the majority of new americans doesnt help much either blaming the canadains is just some great idea one of the hawks had after they watched the movie canadain bacon http://www.mgm.com/audiotrax.do?wma=...ma&artist=Alan

04-29-2003, 09:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dragonlich 42, baby! Location: The Netherlands	Stan, the Canadian border is still the best way to smuggle stuff into the US. The "vast coastlines" are not that great for merchant ships, especially with US coastal patrols going on. The southern border is too heavily policed for a terrorist: their chances of getting caught are huge, seeing that even Mexican smugglers would get suspicious when an Arab tries to get into the US there.

04-29-2003, 11:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bob Biter Non-smokers die everyday Location: Montreal	Well, anyone trying to get into the US from here must deal with US customs, not Canadian customs, so while it is true that potential terrorists might immigrate here and attempt to enter the US, American agents let them in, not us. __________________ A plan is just a list of things that don't happen.

04-29-2003, 12:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
stan the man Insane	if everyone who comes into the us has to deal with us customs how do you explain the vast amount of illegal immigrants on us soil and thats my point if you want to get into the us you can the us should stop crying about canadian customs __________________ long live the hud

04-29-2003, 12:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	We have relied on distance to protect us in the past- That worked in WW ll. On only a few occasions were the Japanese or Germans able to pose a threat other than with submarines. That was then and this is now. While 9-11 should have been a wakeup call for all of us, it wasn't - As easy as it is to get into the U.S. legally (for a defined period of time), why would one draw the attention that trying to enter illegally attracts. While visas may be somewhat more difficult to get now than they were in the past there is hardly no way that this or any other country can guard its borders against state supported terrorists. If a government is willing to provide the necessary paperwork - that of a student, for business purposes, to seek medical attention, to visit Aunt Hilda, or with 10 jillion different forms of diplomatic free passes available. The Mexican border, to those who use it on a regular basis is not even a speed bump - nor is the Canadian border. Terrorism is no different than assassination. There is no possible way that a person can be protected against an assassin if the assassin is willing to die. The same is true for any other form of terrorism - if they are willing to die, and this appears to be a desirable end for religious extremists, then absolutely nothing can provide 100% protection. Our only choice, if we want to be totally free from these types of threats is isolationism and I doubt that in today's world any nation could totally isolate itself - much less the US being capable of it. __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!

04-30-2003, 11:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
stan the man Insane	i realized your point i was just finishing my thought take off eh koo loo koo koo koo loo koo koo __________________ long live the hud

04-30-2003, 11:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
stan the man Insane	hey just found this Anthrax scare unfounded MONTREAL - The death of an Egyptian sailor on a ship bound for the Saguenay was not caused by anthrax. http://montreal.cbc.ca/regional/serv...nthrax20030430 __________________ long live the hud

04-30-2003, 12:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bob Biter Non-smokers die everyday Location: Montreal	Yeah, poor guy just ate a poutine and died of dysentery. __________________ A plan is just a list of things that don't happen.