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Old 10-31-2003, 04:22 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Well, that's it for me today, I'm going to Copenhagen to drink beer with my lovly neighbours the danes whos sense of mocking Bush I love (sending a submarine to Iraq when he demanded their help in operation iraqi freedom, now that's the highest form of irony).
Good luck on the things in life that really count - WOMEN.

The Danish women i know here are all 6'-0" tall slim blondes and very beautiful.

Wish i was there.

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Old 10-31-2003, 05:29 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I for one is mostly opposed to the hypocrisy that is Bush, if he had just said "We are pretty tired of having to go along with every wim th OPEC countries get so to awoid a energy crisis in the near future we will take the weakest country with the most oil by force. Anybody who's joins in will share the spoils and get a chance of kicking some muslim ass. " then I'd think it was OK and probably wanted my country to join in.
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Old 10-31-2003, 06:06 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Sorry I dont have a link, as I read this in todays NY Daily News. 10/30/03. I will look to see if I can find this.

The article stated that 62% of Americans under the age of 30 are pro Bush. They support the War on Terror, the War in Iraq, and Bush's Economics.

This was reported byt the Associated Press and the poll was conducted by the Gallup Corp.

If anyone finds an online copy of this please post.

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Old 10-31-2003, 06:11 AM   #44 (permalink)
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So, 62% of Americans under the age of 30 are pro Bush. Proof, I say, of our inferior educational system.
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Old 10-31-2003, 07:34 AM   #45 (permalink)
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So, 62% of Americans under the age of 30 are pro Bush. Proof, I say, of our inferior educational system.
No no, read my post a bit further up. They are also even MORE pro-clinton, pro-gay-marriage, and pro-get-the-troops-out-of-iraq!

Food Eater Lad's habit of conveniently quoting articles out-of-context is a bit misleading, eh? This is probably the fifth or sixth time that he has quoted only the part of an article that supports his position, leaving out significant contradictory facts.
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Old 10-31-2003, 03:36 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I'm really laughing about how the conservative side of the board has no response to this. Cat got your tongues?
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Old 10-31-2003, 04:18 PM   #47 (permalink)
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So let me get this straigh, 62% are pro bush, as you showed with your back up to my claim, but I am wrong? LOL

Again, Bush in 04, thanks for the back up Harmless Rabbit.

And those that slamed the Education system, is it still bad since lots of people still like Clinton? LOL there's a conundrum? LOL
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Old 10-31-2003, 04:26 PM   #48 (permalink)
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The only thing this poll shows is that alot of young people are ignorant about politics.
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While 69 percent of Americans between 18 and 29 said they follow politics, 81 percent 30 and older said they do.
They don't know much, if anything, about Clinton or Bush, so they just say they approve of them. This in no way shows mass support for Bush among younger voters. All it does is show their general ignorance and apathy.
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Old 10-31-2003, 05:35 PM   #49 (permalink)
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That's the best line i think i have read in a long time. Great post.
Praise from the master, thanks!

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Good luck on the things in life that really count - WOMEN.

The Danish women i know here are all 6'-0" tall slim blondes and very beautiful.

Wish i was there.

Copenhagen is about 30min away by train and I'm with which I travel for free because of my work. The booze is half the price. I realy need to go there more often. (and it's perfect for dating, much intresting cultural happenings going on and a lot of things to do and see and its abroad)
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Old 11-01-2003, 11:50 PM   #50 (permalink)
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H.R. I would say that your statements that Clinton is even mroe popular are misleading, as there is only a 1% difference.


As for the poll, either it proves that the under-30 crow can't make up their minds, or that the poll is not particularly relevant. I don't see how almost the same number of people liked both Clinton and Bush in the same poll. It's the feeling I get when I look at a page of statisticas and the numbers just don't look right.

I can conduct a survey on my campus, and find that not a single person like Bush, and that all who responded loved Clinton, or I could find that half like Bush, and nobod liked Clinton. If nothin gelse, I think a larger group should be polled in order to get an accurate feel for what our under-30's really think.

I honestly don't think there's much of a point in debating over this anymore, but do what you want as long as it stays civil.
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Old 11-02-2003, 12:07 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I don't see how almost the same number of people liked both Clinton and Bush in the same poll. It's the feeling I get when I look at a page of statisticas and the numbers just don't look right.
Did you read the article I linked to? It said that the survey basically proved that the under-30 crowd were idiots when it came to politics, but they also generally don't vote, so it doesn't matter.

I don't think the survey means anything either. The thread originator appears to think that the Bush statistic means that Bush will win in '04. I guess by that logic gay marriages will be legalized and Clinton will be Bushs vice president.
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Old 11-02-2003, 04:35 PM   #52 (permalink)
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60% of people under 30 can't vote.

Not to mention the 60% who pay little to no taxes but will be saddled with the current administrations debt.

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Old 11-02-2003, 04:44 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I'm under 30, and I'm Pro Bush.
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Old 11-02-2003, 07:54 PM   #54 (permalink)
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The poll was for registered voters 2wolves. And your tax information is woefully inaccurate.
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Old 11-03-2003, 06:30 PM   #55 (permalink)
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The poll was for registered voters 2wolves. And your tax information is woefully inaccurate.
Your original post does not state that. My number still stand, 60% of people under 30 can't vote. You do the basic math. Or were you home schooled? How many individuals under eighteen years of age pay signifcant income taxes?

edited - please keep it polite

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Old 11-07-2003, 01:20 PM   #56 (permalink)
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The only thing this poll shows is that alot of young people are ignorant about politics.

They don't know much, if anything, about Clinton or Bush, so they just say they approve of them. This in no way shows mass support for Bush among younger voters. All it does is show their general ignorance and apathy.
Sounds slightly elitist. Pretty harsh judgement to make. Perhaps it shows that age group being a tad more moderate. They were favorable towards Clinton and now they're favorable for Bush. Just because they didn't stick to one side hardly shows them to be ignorant and apathetic. I generally liked Clinton, I have a favorable opinion of Bush. I'm under 30. Perhaps I am ignorant and apathetic, but I wouldn't judge the intelligence of an entire group based on these numbers.
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Old 11-07-2003, 01:51 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I don't like Bush. I don't like the way he acts, the way he talks (not his problems speaking), the way he presents himself, etc. I never did, even before watching the Daily Show's clips of his seemingly moronic behavior. I just never felt good about him.
I think its mostly his attitude to his public opinion. I read that Clinton was very serious about what the public said about him, very sensitive. That made him realistic to me. Bush on the other hand seems like a robot cowboy. That's just my opinion though.
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Old 11-07-2003, 02:04 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I read that Clinton was very serious about what the public said about him, very sensitive. That made him realistic to me.
Exactly Clinton was worried about image and what people thought about HIM. The problem is, it wasn't about him, it was about the United States of America, something far bigger then him. Style over substance might get you dates with vapid women, but its not what you want in a leader.
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Old 11-07-2003, 02:24 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Who are you voting for, the General that hangs with War criminals( why that picture is not being displayed like the Rumsfeild with Saddam pic is, i will never know,) that was fired for wanting to fire on allied troops, or the guy from Vermont that gave the weathy a tax cut, while increasing the middle classes taxes? Or the other guys that seem to flip flop their stances every time they see that America is more in tune with Conservatives then Liberals out side of California and New York?
I will vote for a chimp if that's who the Democrats nominate.

Anything is preferable to 4 more years of the inexcusable damage Bush has inflicted on this nation.
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Old 11-07-2003, 03:22 PM   #60 (permalink)
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I for one is mostly opposed to the hypocrisy that is Bush, if he had just said "We are pretty tired of having to go along with every wim th OPEC countries get so to awoid a energy crisis in the near future we will take the weakest country with the most oil by force. Anybody who's joins in will share the spoils and get a chance of kicking some muslim ass. " then I'd think it was OK and probably wanted my country to join in.
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Old 11-07-2003, 04:57 PM   #61 (permalink)
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So 1, 902,095,000 are fundamental terrorits? I was not aware of that.
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Old 11-07-2003, 09:34 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Exactly Clinton was worried about image and what people thought about HIM. The problem is, it wasn't about him, it was about the United States of America, something far bigger then him. Style over substance might get you dates with vapid women, but its not what you want in a leader.
Its not that I don't agree, but my point was only to say that I don't feel that Bush is actually a human being. I was only stating the last part as a kind of second notion to the point. As a leader, I cannot say weather or not I approve of Bush's actions because I didn't vote that term, but as a person he gives me the willies.
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Old 11-07-2003, 10:00 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I will vote for a chimp if that's who the Democrats nominate.
That thinking, sir, is why this country is in the sad state which it is in today.

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