For non-Americans who would you like to see as our next President? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

pocon1 · 10-21-2003, 07:54 PM

I am asking only non-Americans to respond to this because I would like to hear their opinions on who they would like to see as the next U.S. President, and why. Keep G.W.? Vote for Dean? Whoever, just make it a legitimate person (Mickey Mouse cannot run for office). This is my first thread start, so be nice. Now let the games begin.

TrogDor · 10-21-2003, 08:42 PM

I think I'd like anyone but bush. I really dont like him, and all he has done is piss off all the arab nations even more since he's been in office. I dont know who I would put in instead of bush though - last election there wasnt alot of choice besides bush and gore.

figgles · 10-21-2003, 10:03 PM

Michael Moore

HugAPug · 10-21-2003, 10:17 PM

As a non-American, I'm having a hard time telling the main Democratic candidates apart. Could someone give me a good link comparing them?

Doos · 10-21-2003, 11:25 PM

Al Gore seemed to be less of a meathead than a lot of politico's. Just isn't charimatic enough.

pocon1 · 10-22-2003, 02:00 AM

Michael moore and Al Gore are not running for office. Please try legitimate political candidates who have actually announced their intentions of running for the 2004 elections. Thank you.

onetime2 · 10-22-2003, 03:30 AM

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Originally posted by pocon1
Michael moore and Al Gore are not running for office. Please try legitimate political candidates who have actually announced their intentions of running for the 2004 elections. Thank you.

Perhaps you should list the Democratic candidates and maybe provide a link to their websites. While they may get a ton of press coverage here in the states, they may not be covered quite so extensively outside of here.

--Paul

james t kirk · 10-22-2003, 04:46 AM

First off, i would say anyone other than Bush.

But since you asked who.....

I would say Dean

gabshu · 10-22-2003, 05:11 AM

I think I agree with pretty much everyone here, Bush should not stay in office, he should have never won in the first place. If I could vote I would vote democrat. I know this is sad but I believe that a vote for the independents is a vote for Bush. Right now I like Wesley Clark, but there's still some time to go, so maybe I'll change my mind.

Superbelt · 10-22-2003, 05:12 AM

This should help you.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/

Currently Howard Dean is leading the pack, closely followed by Wesley Clark and then Edwards, Kerry, Gephardt, and Lieberman is taking up the rear. The rest of the candidates knew they had no chance going in, they just wanted to run.

Superbelt · 10-22-2003, 05:16 AM

Dean: Issues

damhna · 10-22-2003, 05:20 AM

I like clark , he might be a contender next time out. But Bush will be , should be and deserves to be reelected

damhna · 10-22-2003, 05:49 AM

Can we get a poll in here ?

Ustwo · 10-22-2003, 07:35 AM

You can't blame the Euros etc for not knowing who is running, most Americans dont' know who the dems are either.

Sledge · 10-22-2003, 08:09 AM

Superbelt, thanks for the link

That's very helpful.

onetime2 · 10-22-2003, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Superbelt
This should help you.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/

Love the little paper clipped "out" on Graham's pic. Good graphic.

Redlemon · 10-22-2003, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by HugAPug
As a non-American, I'm having a hard time telling the main Democratic candidates apart. Could someone give me a good link comparing them?

As a Democratic American who votes in primary elections, I'm having trouble telling them apart as well.

seretogis · 10-22-2003, 11:18 AM

All of you people who are saying "anyone but Bush!" may want to reconsider what that could mean. Bush is not even close to the worst option as far as extreme nonsense goes.

Darkblack · 10-22-2003, 11:51 AM

lol we could end up with Sharpton!

Arc101 · 10-22-2003, 11:58 AM

Anyone who actually knows that they are other countries besides the USA. Also someone who does not want to start a holy war against the muslim countries. I would also like someone who is not owned by big business, but I can't see that ever happening !

Food Eater Lad · 10-22-2003, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by seretogis
All of you people who are saying "anyone but Bush!" may want to reconsider what that could mean. Bush is not even close to the worst option as far as extreme nonsense goes.

Thats right, we could have a shoddy pundit like Micheal Moore and than watch the nation go to hell in a handbasket.

Darkblack · 10-22-2003, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
Thats right, we could have a shoddy pundit like Micheal Moore and than watch the nation go to hell in a handbasket.

splck · 10-22-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
Thats right, we could have a shoddy pundit like Micheal Moore and than watch the nation go to hell in a handbasket.

Much like Bush is doing?

I'll give the pundits some more time before making a choice.

bundy · 10-22-2003, 08:53 PM

i would like to see an end to the current administration.
imo, Bush has been a reckless and dangerous president.
john howard is no better, but we aren´t discussing him here.

so, i´d like to see Howard Dean be the next president of America.

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Originally posted by Doos
Al Gore seemed to be less of a meathead than a lot of politico's. Just isn't charimatic enough.

i agree.
i think with the benefit of hindsight, Gore may well have proved a more thoughtful, and respected leader. he just lacks charisma. mind you, this isn´t to say that Bush has charisma...

Doos · 10-23-2003, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by pocon1
Michael moore and Al Gore are not running for office. Please try legitimate political candidates who have actually announced their intentions of running for the 2004 elections. Thank you.

Judging by the last election, the one with the best connections in the business world or, to put it succinctly, the one with the most money.

XenuHubbard · 10-23-2003, 12:52 AM

I'd go with Wesley Clark, even though I really dislike his ramblings about jumping into the water from a bridge at some camp as a kid.

eple · 10-23-2003, 01:34 AM

Arnie!!! I want that man to rape the whole country!

Pacifier · 10-23-2003, 02:25 AM

anyone but bush

I don't know the small canidates and most of the democrats but this Gen. Clark seems to be not too bad. I hope he has what Clinton was missing: guts.

But what irritates me a lot about the american system is that you have only 2 partys that seem to be important, so a third strong party (Greens?) would be nice I think, just to bring some new ideas.

dami³ · 10-23-2003, 06:35 AM

Dennis Kucinich would be best for both the good old US of A and the world at large, but he's as unelectable as are Braun and Sharpton (for very obvious reasons in the land of the free & the brave) - Kerry has been a hypocrit for a very long time, Gephardt and Edwards have got no Karma whatsoever, Lieberman is a Republican ... etc. only possible and desirable new US president from this perspective would be Howard Dean, but Americans always grow soft for people who have worn the "uniform" so Clark will get the Democrats' ticket.

Clark's chances of defeating Bush are low, but it's possible - since the 2004 presidential election will probably be about "4 more wars" everything will depend on the dirt Karl Rove can dig up and how many US citizens he'll be able to fool in the best democracy money can buy.

Doos · 10-23-2003, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by Pacifier

But what irritates me a lot about the american system is that you have only 2 partys that seem to be important

Are you intimating that its not a model democracy

10-21-2003, 07:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
pocon1 Banned	For non-Americans who would you like to see as our next President? I am asking only non-Americans to respond to this because I would like to hear their opinions on who they would like to see as the next U.S. President, and why. Keep G.W.? Vote for Dean? Whoever, just make it a legitimate person (Mickey Mouse cannot run for office). This is my first thread start, so be nice. Now let the games begin.

10-21-2003, 11:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Doos Crazy Location: South Africa	Al Gore seemed to be less of a meathead than a lot of politico's. Just isn't charimatic enough. __________________ Don't be alarmed, I'm an African. Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels good.

10-22-2003, 05:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
gabshu Psycho Location: The capital of the free world??	I think I agree with pretty much everyone here, Bush should not stay in office, he should have never won in the first place. If I could vote I would vote democrat. I know this is sad but I believe that a vote for the independents is a vote for Bush. Right now I like Wesley Clark, but there's still some time to go, so maybe I'll change my mind. __________________ Go Kool Aid. OH YEAAHH http://www.retrocrush.com/archive2003/koolaid/

10-22-2003, 07:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	You can't blame the Euros etc for not knowing who is running, most Americans dont' know who the dems are either. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

10-22-2003, 11:18 AM	#18 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	All of you people who are saying "anyone but Bush!" may want to reconsider what that could mean. Bush is not even close to the worst option as far as extreme nonsense goes. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

10-21-2003, 08:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
TrogDor Tilted	I think I'd like anyone but bush. I really dont like him, and all he has done is piss off all the arab nations even more since he's been in office. I dont know who I would put in instead of bush though - last election there wasnt alot of choice besides bush and gore.

10-21-2003, 10:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
figgles Upright	Michael Moore

10-21-2003, 10:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
HugAPug Crazy Location: Edmonton, AB	As a non-American, I'm having a hard time telling the main Democratic candidates apart. Could someone give me a good link comparing them?

10-22-2003, 02:00 AM	#6 (permalink)
pocon1 Banned	Michael moore and Al Gore are not running for office. Please try legitimate political candidates who have actually announced their intentions of running for the 2004 elections. Thank you.

10-22-2003, 04:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
james t kirk Junkie Location: Toronto	First off, i would say anyone other than Bush. But since you asked who..... I would say Dean

10-22-2003, 05:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	This should help you. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/ Currently Howard Dean is leading the pack, closely followed by Wesley Clark and then Edwards, Kerry, Gephardt, and Lieberman is taking up the rear. The rest of the candidates knew they had no chance going in, they just wanted to run.

10-22-2003, 05:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Dean: Issues

10-22-2003, 05:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
damhna Tilted	I like clark , he might be a contender next time out. But Bush will be , should be and deserves to be reelected

10-22-2003, 05:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
damhna Tilted	Can we get a poll in here ?

10-22-2003, 08:09 AM	#15 (permalink)
Sledge Pasture Bedtime	Superbelt, thanks for the link That's very helpful.

10-22-2003, 11:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
Darkblack Banned Location: Pennsytuckia	lol we could end up with Sharpton!

10-22-2003, 11:58 AM	#20 (permalink)
Arc101 Addict Location: Nottingham, England	Anyone who actually knows that they are other countries besides the USA. Also someone who does not want to start a holy war against the muslim countries. I would also like someone who is not owned by big business, but I can't see that ever happening !

10-23-2003, 12:52 AM	#26 (permalink)
XenuHubbard Cute and Cuddly Location: Teegeeack.	I'd go with Wesley Clark, even though I really dislike his ramblings about jumping into the water from a bridge at some camp as a kid. __________________ The above was written by a true prophet. Trust me. "What doesn't kill you, makes you bitter and paranoid". - SB2000

10-23-2003, 01:34 AM	#27 (permalink)
eple Banned Location: norway	Arnie!!! I want that man to rape the whole country!

10-23-2003, 02:25 AM	#28 (permalink)
Pacifier undead Location: Duisburg, Germany	anyone but bush I don't know the small canidates and most of the democrats but this Gen. Clark seems to be not too bad. I hope he has what Clinton was missing: guts. But what irritates me a lot about the american system is that you have only 2 partys that seem to be important, so a third strong party (Greens?) would be nice I think, just to bring some new ideas. __________________ "It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I also cannot imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. Science has been charged with undermining morality, but the charge is unjust. A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death — Albert Einstein

10-23-2003, 06:35 AM	#29 (permalink)
dami³ Tilted Location: EU	Dennis Kucinich would be best for both the good old US of A and the world at large, but he's as unelectable as are Braun and Sharpton (for very obvious reasons in the land of the free & the brave) - Kerry has been a hypocrit for a very long time, Gephardt and Edwards have got no Karma whatsoever, Lieberman is a Republican ... etc. only possible and desirable new US president from this perspective would be Howard Dean, but Americans always grow soft for people who have worn the "uniform" so Clark will get the Democrats' ticket. Clark's chances of defeating Bush are low, but it's possible - since the 2004 presidential election will probably be about "4 more wars" everything will depend on the dirt Karl Rove can dig up and how many US citizens he'll be able to fool in the best democracy money can buy.