james t kirk

Actually, the only country to EVER attack this country is the United States of America.

Several times actually.

Will the Americans help us fend off the Americans I wonder???

prosequence

Hehe good point, and if it wans't for all those unregistered guns we sould not have won.

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Food Eater Lad

UM you were England back then.

james t kirk

Actually no, we were Upper Canada and Lower Canada, part of British North America.

The funny thing about American politics towards Canada is that we as a country have actually benefitted by extreme American policy.

For example the United Empire Loyalists that came to Canada after the American revolution were some of the best people the USA had. They came here and helped forge a nation.

During the Vietnam war, something like 100,000 Americans immigrated to Canada. Most of them highly educated, productive individuals. There was an article in the Globe and Mail a few years back detailing some of the brilliant Americans who came to Canada during the 60's and 70's and went on to better our society. Doctors, engineers, writers, researchers. Most never returned the US having put down roots here.

Thanks guys.

You guys need to start another draft to put guys over in the middle east war zone so we can brain drain you once again.

james t kirk

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Ustwo

*Laughs* Now I know why Canada is so weak now, you took in all our cowards

filtherton

Nevermind.

Food Eater Lad

Um You were part of England then, a colony. We never invaded Canada, but a colony of a nation that was oppressing us. You didnt become independant untill decades later.

splck

We prefere the term "enlightend people".

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james t kirk

Oppressing you???

How is that?

If you mean that the British were not allowing you to trade with Napolean, you would be correct.

Britain had told the USA to stop aiding and supplying Napolean, but the USA didn't listen. The us figured it had every right to trade with a homicidal dictator intent on conquoring all of Europe.

If you wade into a war (Britain verses Napolean) you have to expect consequences. That's hardly oppression.

I wonder how the USA would react if France was aiding and supplying Saddam Hussein recently? Do you not think that the the USA would not prevent France from shipping aid and supplies to Iraq???

Not quite.

james t kirk

Send us your cowards.

If they are smart, productive people, we couldn't care less that they are not willing to enforce Exxon's foreign policy.

Food Eater Lad

I guess you never heard of the taxation without representation thing. So I assume if you were taxed heavily on your work, and had no avenue or access to your government, all would be cool? And Canada was still England at that time, it was a loyal part of the crown. And France WAS Shipping weapons to Irag, in fact they Russia and CHina were the three biggest violators to the sanctions on Iraq, and one of the reasons why we had to go to war. Hmmm, odd, the three biggest violators were the three biggest naysayers against the war.

james t kirk

Taxation without representation.

Hmm, seems to me that was 1776 when John Hancock (a smuggler by profession, wanted dead or alive by the British, and the only guy to sign the delaration of Independence prior to the American Revolution (he was after all wanted dead or alive by the British, so what did he have to lose)) made such a statement because he didn't like paying duty.

The War of 1812 (when the US tried to conquor Canada) was a bit later mon ami. By that time, the United States was an independant country and was not paying a dime in taxes to Britain.

And no, France has NOT been shipping weapons to Iraq since 1991.

Canada was NEVER a part of England for pete's sake.

It's Britain.

There's a difference. England is but one country. Britain = Scotland, England, and Wales.

P.S. We are still loyal to the crown too.

God save the Queen.

Food Eater Lad

The War of 1812 was started by Britian, you know YOU guys, for capturing our sailors and ignoring our rights as an independant nation. YOu were part of Britian than so your nation was the aggressor. So, steal our saliors and you get attacked.

John Handcock didnt seem to have a problem with taxes once he was given a voice in govenment.

France did sell, they traded oil for weapons.

james t kirk

Really,

It's funny how history is taught on either side of the boarder.

Growing up, we were taught that the United States declared war on us because they wanted to seize our country and steel our property. We were taught that it was president madison declared war on us because he was being manipulated by the war hawks who dreamed of one continent ruled from Washington. Manifestdestiny as it were. We were taught that the Americans were running the British blockades and supplying Napolean in his quest to conquor all of Europe and that Britain had no choice but to put a stop to such beligerence.

We were taught that a rag tag band of Canadian militia, British Regular Forces and a whole pile of Aboriginals warriors fought under a guy named Sir Issac Brock to resist the occupation by the agressive American hordes. We were taught that under Brock, the British, Canadians and Aboriginal warriors (who had seen the genocide waged by the Americans against native people) were vastly outnumbered and out gunned but they fought with their brains and cunning and bravery and defeated the invaders and drove them back at every turn. We were taught that we even managed to burn Washington and the white house down. We were taught that president Madison was a coward who dressed up like a woman to flee from the British in Washington to Virginia. We were also taught that the second the British defeated Napolean and thus could bring the full thrust of their navy and military to bare on the invading Americans that the Americans had a very sudden change of heart and sued for peace rather than potentially lose to the PISSED OFF British.

The treaty of Ghent was signed on Christmas eve 1814.

Funny how history looks on the other side of the boarder?

No hard feelings though eh.

Food Eater Lad

So the English never disregarded our rights as an independant nation? The English never constripted our saliors? The English never boarded ships and raided their contents?

Funny how history looks on the other side of the border.

Food Eater Lad

The United States declared War on Great Britain on June 12, 1812. The war was declared as a result of long simmering disputes with Great Britian. The central dispute surrounded the impressment of American soldiers by the British. The British had previously attacked the USS Chesapeake and nearly caused a war two year earlier. In addition, disputes continued with Great Britain over the Northwest Territories and the border with Canada. Finally, the attempts of Great Britain to impose a blockade on France during the Napoleonic Wars was a constant source of conflict with the United States

prosequence

And all this has to do with butterknives.... how?

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