Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > The Academy > Tilted Politics


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-21-2003, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junkie
 
HarmlessRabbit's Avatar
 
Location: San Jose, CA
Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel says President Got Too Much Latitude on Foreign Policy

Chuck Hagel is a republican and a senior member of the powerful Foreign Relations committee.

In summary, Hagel is criticizing Bush for creating bad will from other nations towards the USA, and for going into Iraq without allies.

I completely agree with Hagel's points and I applaud him for having the guts to stand up to a president from his own party.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

Quote:
Sen. Hagel Says Congress Deferred Too Much to Bush
Republican Says President Got Too Much Lattitude on Foreign Policy After Sept. 11


Associated Press
Tuesday, October 21, 2003; 11:56 AM

OMAHA, Neb. -- Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel is strongly criticizing Congress, saying it gave President Bush too much latitude in conducting foreign policy following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Hagel, of Nebraska, voiced his disapproval Monday in a speech at the Gallup Organization World Conference in Omaha.

"When the security of this nation is threatened, Congress and the American people give the president great latitude," he said. "We probably have given this president more flexibility, more latitude, more range, unquestioned, than any president since Franklin Roosevelt -- probably too much. The Congress, in my opinion, really abrogated much of its responsibility."

Hagel, a senior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, voted last year to give the president the authority to attack Iraq but has frequently criticized Bush's execution of the war. He has been especially critical of the lack of allies and U.N. support.

Most people in other countries are too young to remember the good done by the United States in World War II and the Korean War, he said.

"The great reservoir of pro-American good will that has existed in the world since World War II . . . that reservoir is now down very low."

The Vietnam War veteran compared the United States' lack of international support in the Iraq war with what happened in Southeast Asia.

"The one great mistake that America made in those 58 years (since World War II) ... was we tried to do something alone. That was Vietnam," Hagel said.
HarmlessRabbit is offline  
Old 10-21-2003, 04:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
Banned
 
Then why did he vote for Bush's plan? Oh well, he is allowed his opinion.
Food Eater Lad is offline  
Old 10-22-2003, 02:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
mml
Adrift
 
Location: Wandering in the Desert of Life
I really believe that if they had to do it over again, most of those who voted for the "Blank Check" to President Bush would not vote the same way. This is not to say that they would not have approved military action, it is just that they would prefer to not have given up their constitutional rights/obligations. It appears that many in congress as well as most Americans got caught up in the post 9/11 furvor and voted with their hearts rather than their heads. Hagel is a rather smart and patriotic individual, and he is rightly concerned that our foreign policy is being dominated by one man and his small cadre of advisors, with little influence from congress (i.e. the voice of the people) and little assistance from long time allies within the international community.

We have many resources with which to accomplish our goals. By acting unilaterally and with little imput from congress and the international community we limit our resources and potential sources for new and better ideas. IMO and apparently in Senator Hagel's, this is foolish.
__________________
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."
-Douglas Adams
mml is offline  
Old 10-22-2003, 02:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
Super Agitator
 
Liquor Dealer's Avatar
 
Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A
I would say at this point his mouthing off after the fact is irrelevant. He is doing the same thing Clark is attempting to do - approve of something and then turn around and condemn the Presdient for doing what Congress told him to do. I don't see the logic of this.
__________________
Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!
Liquor Dealer is offline  
Old 10-22-2003, 03:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
Pissing in the cornflakes
 
Ustwo's Avatar
 
Quote:
What nations have joined the U.S. effort in Iraq?
On Tuesday, March 18, the U.S. State Department released a list of 30 nations it describes as the "Coalition for the Immediate Disarmament of Iraq." These nations are:

Afghanistan
Albania
Australia
Azerbaijan
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
El Salvador
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Georgia
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Japan *
South Korea
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
Netherlands
Nicaragua
Philippines
Poland
Romania
Slovakia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
Uzbekistan
* Japan has agreed to participate in postwar rebuilding efforts
Thats from Zell Millers website, D-GA. He voted for the war, co-sponcered the resolution, and has supported it the whole time.

I completely agree with Zell Miller and I applaud him for having the guts to stand up to his own party.
__________________
Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host

Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.
Ustwo is offline  
Old 10-22-2003, 06:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
Banned
 
Location: St. Paul, MN
no mention that in spain, and other "willing" nations, the popular support for the war is nearly non-existant.

Supporting a possible war resolution does not eliminate the moral authority to comment negatively on how that war is persued. Just becuase they put trust in someone, then had that trust betrayed does not mean they are incapable of intelligent dissent at this point. what a fallacy...
chavos is offline  
 

Tags
chuck, foreign, hagel, latitude, policy, president, republican, sen

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:00 PM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360