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Ustwo · 10-27-2003, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Nizzle
By this logic, could I not say that Hitler helped fight communism and therefore people that disagree with his actions are communists and evil?

As a side note, Hitler and Stalin had strict gun control

Nizzle · 10-27-2003, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by seretogis
Don't confuse vigilantism with allowing someone to defend themselves.

Seretogis, did you even read the article? It was not a case of someone defending themselves with a firearm. It was a case of a lone, unidentified gunman executing someone drive-by style who was purportedly attacking someone.

This is not self-defense. If you are going to attempt to debunk my arguments, can you avoid changing what we are talking about?

seretogis · 10-27-2003, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Nizzle
Seretogis, did you even read the article? It was not a case of someone defending themselves with a firearm. It was a case of a lone, unidentified gunman executing someone drive-by style who was purportedly attacking someone.

This is not self-defense. If you are going to attempt to debunk my arguments, can you avoid changing what we are talking about?

I was not responding to or defending the article, I was responding to your assumption that guns are rarely used for any good, which is not correct.

Food Eater Lad · 10-27-2003, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by Nizzle
Seretogis, did you even read the article? It was not a case of someone defending themselves with a firearm. It was a case of a lone, unidentified gunman executing someone drive-by style who was purportedly attacking someone.

This is not self-defense. If you are going to attempt to debunk my arguments, can you avoid changing what we are talking about?

So the moral thing to do was let her die?

Food Eater Lad · 10-27-2003, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by SLM3
Such a weak argument. I'm sorry but I thought people here were past using the tactic of finding a single article that "supports" their argument. Anyone can find an article that supports what they have to say.

How many instances occur like the one in your link compared to the number of gun homicides committed each year using illegally obtained weapons? You think it's about even?

SLM3

P.S. Remember, I never labeled myself as a gun control advocate so I hope you're not trying to.

So you solution to stoping gun homicides from illegal guns is to take them away from the people that DIDNT use them illegally or obtain them illegally?

SLM3 · 10-27-2003, 07:57 PM

Stop trying to create both sides of the argument.

I'm wondering about the number of cases like the one in the article you posted compared to the numbger of gun homicides committed using illegally acquired guns.

I'm having a hard time trying to follow you, but are you implying that I said the guy in your article was using an illegal gun? I really don't know how you got that but if that's what your interpretation is then I'm telling you you totally missed what I was saying.

Also, if you're referring to your article, are you saying that the guy who shot the man assaulting the girl used his gun legally?

I'm lost. Often when you get to this point the thread has degraded into meaningless attacks.

SLM3

Food Eater Lad · 10-27-2003, 08:13 PM

We dont know anything about the guy in the article other than he saved a womans life. Did he use the gun legally? Thats why they are investigating. My gut tells me he saved her life, but that is not legally binding in any way. I already posted the number of homicides using LEGAL guns. And they were ignored.

10-27-2003, 07:57 PM	#86 (permalink)
SLM3 Insane	Stop trying to create both sides of the argument. I'm wondering about the number of cases like the one in the article you posted compared to the numbger of gun homicides committed using illegally acquired guns. I'm having a hard time trying to follow you, but are you implying that I said the guy in your article was using an illegal gun? I really don't know how you got that but if that's what your interpretation is then I'm telling you you totally missed what I was saying. Also, if you're referring to your article, are you saying that the guy who shot the man assaulting the girl used his gun legally? I'm lost. Often when you get to this point the thread has degraded into meaningless attacks. SLM3

10-27-2003, 08:13 PM	#87 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	We dont know anything about the guy in the article other than he saved a womans life. Did he use the gun legally? Thats why they are investigating. My gut tells me he saved her life, but that is not legally binding in any way. I already posted the number of homicides using LEGAL guns. And they were ignored.