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Liquor Dealer · 10-10-2003, 12:17 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99731,00.html
NEW YORK — Radio talk show host and political commentator Rush Limbaugh stunned listeners Friday when he admitted that he is addicted to painkillers.

"You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life," Limbaugh said on his program. "So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication."

Friday, October 10, 2003

Following is the full text of radio commentator Rush Limbaugh's statement on-air statement, Friday, Oct. 10, 2003, according to Premiere Radio, his broadcaster:

"You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life. So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication.

"I first started taking prescription painkillers some years ago when my doctor prescribed them to treat post-surgical pain following spinal surgery. Unfortunately, the surgery was unsuccessful and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs. I am still experiencing that pain.

"Rather than opt for additional surgery for these conditions, I chose to treat the pain with prescribed medication. This medication turned out to be highly addictive.

"Over the past several years I have tried to break my dependence on pain pills and, in fact, twice checked myself into medical facilities in an attempt to do so. I have recently agreed with my physician about the next steps.

"Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me. The show will continue during this time, of course, with an array of guest hosts you have come to know and respect.

"I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes. They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem.

"At the present time, the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete. So I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them.

"I deeply appreciate all your support over this last tumultuous week. It has sustained me. I ask now for your prayers. I look forward to resuming our excursion into broadcast excellence together."

I am by no means a Rush fan but is kinda' nice for him to admit he has a problem and has had the problem for quite some time. It does make you wonder if he would ever have dealt with the problem had he not been forced by current events.

Phaenx · 10-10-2003, 12:35 PM

Oops, well I guess that isn't as bad as smoking pot because you like to get high. Oh well, moral police always falls the hardest.

JamesS · 10-10-2003, 12:42 PM

I would hope he will be turning himself in shortly. He has advocated on his show in the past that these types of drug offenses should be fully prosecuted, and I would expect nothing less from him now.

Mojo_PeiPei · 10-10-2003, 01:10 PM

Nice little speech, hope everything works out for him.

Mr. Mojo · 10-10-2003, 01:15 PM

That’s got to take a huge set of balls to confess on the radio to 20 million people- and a vengeful media - rather than sending out a publicist to do your dirty work for you.

Think about it, if you or I had to go into a rehab clinic we would only have to tell maybe 10-20 people. And you can lie to some if your embarrassed. He went on the air and told all his listeners and critics about his weakness. Love him or hate him, that takes guts

Good luck

Peryn · 10-10-2003, 01:38 PM

""Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me.""

Enough said. That takes balls. I only hope that if i were in that situation i would have the courage and strength to finally get myself out of it. Good for him and best of luck.

JamesS - he stated in the article that he turned himself into the police and they are conducting a full investigation, but they have asked him to limit his conversations about it. He also says several times that he takes full responsibility for his actions and that he is no role model. I seriously doubt he will try and duck and consequences of his actions.

Astrocloud · 10-10-2003, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by Mr. Mojo
That’s got to take a huge set of balls to confess on the radio to 20 million people- and a vengeful media - rather than sending out a publicist to do your dirty work for you.

Not really because to his fans -he can do no wrong.

If he walked into a drugstore and shot the pharmacist to steal oxycontin -His loyal listeners would think: "That pharmacist must've been a LIBERAL. Good Shootin Rush."

The_Dude · 10-10-2003, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by JamesS
I would hope he will be turning himself in shortly. He has advocated on his show in the past that these types of drug offenses should be fully prosecuted, and I would expect nothing less from him now.

I'm waiting for that also.

JamesS · 10-10-2003, 03:21 PM

Peryn - I would hope not, because if there's one thing I can't stand about political or moral figures (from either side of the aisle) it's the hypocrisy.

You know, the Bill Bennett types.

seretogis · 10-10-2003, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by Astrocloud
Not really because to his fans -he can do no wrong.

Read the article -- Limbaugh states that what he did was wrong and that he is not making excuses, nor does he want to be made into a "hero" for getting over his addiction.

Ustwo · 10-10-2003, 03:57 PM

#1 I'm pissed at Rush. I wouldn't call the guy a hero to me, but I have a lot of respect for him, and I still do, but I'm pissed he didn't take care of this himself earlier. He knew better.

#2 Liberals can't aruge on the merits of their beliefs on most issues, so try to destroy the man saying those things. All this does is give them ammo for the politics of personal destruction.

#3 Odds are Rush could have gotten away with it had he taken a Clinton stance. Nothing collected could have been used in court and the case against him was very weak. It did take balls to just say "Yes, I'm addicted." and I do respect him for that.

lordjeebus · 10-10-2003, 04:51 PM

I wonder if this ordeal will change, at least a little bit, his opinion on hardline punishment of drug abusers.

I also wonder, if it did, would he have the balls to share his new perspective with his listeners? Or would he continue to tell them what they like to hear?

sixate · 10-10-2003, 05:46 PM

The hypocrisy of this piece of shit makes me want to puke. He's a big dumb meathead. I have never liked this asshole. Anyone with three brain cells in their head can see what a liar he is. First of all, he's so republican it even makes me sick. I mean, the fucker never disagrees with the republican party. Get a brain fuckface! It's OK to disagree with republicans once in a while. He's always wanted people to be punished as strictly as possible for shit like this and I hope he feels that wrath. Or better yet, I hope he takes a huge handful of pills and kills himself. I'm glad that everyone now sees what a weak pathetic lying sack of shit he is.

Macheath · 10-10-2003, 05:52 PM

His act is over. There's nothing so pathetic as watching a bully try to flex their muscles after something like this has happened.

HarmlessRabbit · 10-10-2003, 05:53 PM

Vicodin is schedule III. The penalties for traffiking, which at the quantities he was buying he would qualify for, are:

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html

<b>First Offense: Not more than 5 years. Fine not more than $250,000 if an individual, $1 million if not an individual.

Second Offense: Not more 10 yrs. Fine not more than $500,000 if an individual, $2 million if not an individual </b>

I'd like to hear from the conservatives here what they think about drug sentencing and what penalties they think Rush deserves.

crewsor · 10-10-2003, 07:07 PM

Yeah, it takes a lot of guts to admit you're a dope addict after its been disclosed against your will already. Had it not been brought to light, you wouldn't be hearing about it from the hypocritical blowhard.
He is on record as saying any illegal drug use should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. I hope the legal system takes him at his word and makes him an example of the wonderful war on drugs.
I'm sure 5 to 10 in the slammer will surely rehabilitate him.
The best thing about this is now we get to see all the Ditto heads, backpedal and try to explain why its different for Rush, and the laws he endorsed should not apply to him.
I believe jail is for people who are a threat to others well being, not for people with the sickness of addiction who need treatment not incarceration. But for Rush, I would make an exception. He knowingly broke many laws pertaining to illegal drugs, he advocates jail for that offense, so lets lock him up.
To quote Rush " illegal drug users should be sent up"

splck · 10-10-2003, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by crewsor
Yeah, it takes a lot of guts to admit you're a dope addict after its been disclosed against your will already. Had it not been brought to light, you wouldn't be hearing about it from the hypocritical blowhard.
He is on record as saying any illegal drug use should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. I hope the legal system takes him at his word and makes him an example of the wonderful war on drugs.
I'm sure 5 to 10 in the slammer will surely rehabilitate him.
The best thing about this is now we get to see all the Ditto heads, backpedal and try to explain why its different for Rush, and the laws he endorsed should not apply to him.
I believe jail is for people who are a threat to others well being, not for people with the sickness of addiction who need treatment not incarceration. But for Rush, I would make an exception. He knowingly broke many laws pertaining to illegal drugs, he advocates jail for that offense, so lets lock him up.
To quote Rush " illegal drug users should be sent up"

Agree 100%...I can't wait for the..."but this is different, they were pills."

Ustwo · 10-10-2003, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
I mean, the fucker never disagrees with the republican party. Get a brain fuckface!

I'm sorry but you obviously never listen to his show if you say he never disagrees with the republican party. In fact he took a lot of heat from his 'fans' for criticizing GWB and the republican party on a large number of issues. Most people I find who like to bash Rush have never listened to Rush at all or more then a very short time. Not everything can be condensed into a sound byte.

chavos · 10-10-2003, 09:56 PM

it's too bad... but it is difficult to ask for mercy when your public career has been to advocate denying mercy to others. maybe it will change his mind.

sixate · 10-11-2003, 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by Ustwo
I'm sorry but you obviously never listen to his show if you say he never disagrees with the republican party. In fact he took a lot of heat from his 'fans' for criticizing GWB and the republican party on a large number of issues. Most people I find who like to bash Rush have never listened to Rush at all or more then a very short time. Not everything can be condensed into a sound byte.

The times that I've listened to him I've never heard him disagree with anything. I don't listen too him much because he's obviously always been a liar.

ARTelevision · 10-11-2003, 05:06 AM

It's too bad.
But this may end up broadening and deepening the conservative discourse. He tended to be a focus - and also a target. His guest hosts always provide extra perspective and broaden the show's message(s).
Actually, these events will probably result in a needed education for his core audience, who focus too much on him as their spokesperson.
Bad for Rush, good for conservatism in the long run.

JBX · 10-11-2003, 05:09 AM

When he confessed, in the distance, could you hear the librerals cheering?

maximusveritas · 10-11-2003, 05:59 AM

This reminds me of Jeb Bush pleading for compassion for his daughter even though he showed no sympathy for other drug offenders, cutting drug treatment budgets and opposing the lessening of penaltlies for drug offenders. The word "hypocrite" does not do him justice.

Still, I don't wish to see Rush go to jail since I don't like to alter my beliefs for the sake of payback. I hope this incident opens the eyes of Rush and his listeners. Maybe Rush can do some soul-searching and thinking and come out a new man. Who knows, maybe he'll even become a liberal.

Ustwo · 10-11-2003, 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by sixate
The times that I've listened to him I've never heard him disagree with anything. I don't listen too him much because he's obviously always been a liar.

Rush has been on the air for well over a decade. I would be interested in knowning what these lies are. I've listened to him off and on for the last 10 years. I don't agree with everything he has said, I don't agree with his logic at times even when I agree on the basic issue, but I've never caught him lying once. I'm sure he has been wrong on an issue over the last 16 years or however long he has been on the air, but after 1000's of 3 hour shows, you can't expect him NOT to get something wrong a few times. I get my news from all sources, I even look at places as biased and nutty as truthout.org, but I've never seen anything credible about Rush lying. Of course whenever Al Franken gets called on his lies, he is given a pass because 'he is a comedian'.

But as always destroy the messanger if you can't fault the message.

JBX · 10-11-2003, 08:43 AM

I have one more comment regarding this issue. I want to call to task all the people bringing up the subject of jail. Nobody in the United States has ever gone to jail for being a illegal drug user. You have to be caught with product in hand. A sting, a legal stop and search with drugs turning up, etc. He used drugs, yes, he has said as much. A police case that would put him in jail, no. That would be equivalent to a drug dealer saying after he's arrested that he sold drugs to you, and the police coming to arrest you. Without a bust with the drugs involved, you have nothing but a popcorn fart.

HarmlessRabbit · 10-11-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by JBX
I have one more comment regarding this issue. I want to call to task all the people bringing up the subject of jail. Nobody in the United States has ever gone to jail for being a illegal drug user. You have to be caught with product in hand. A sting, a legal stop and search with drugs turning up, etc. He used drugs, yes, he has said as much. A police case that would put him in jail, no. That would be equivalent to a drug dealer saying after he's arrested that he sold drugs to you, and the police coming to arrest you. Without a bust with the drugs involved, you have nothing but a popcorn fart.

Or, say, a maid with taped evidence of your purchasing the drugs, who was about to reveal all to the cops. I'd say that would be pretty damning evidence, especially if they traced the calls back and were able to get a confession out of the dealer.

I'd like to point out that no one was ever EXCUSED FROM BEING A HABITUAL FELON OVER SEVERAL YEARS because they are a celebrity, or because they confessed publicly to their crimes before the cops could haul them into jail.

Also, you ignore Rush's own statement:

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At the present time, the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete. So I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them.

JBX · 10-11-2003, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by HarmlessRabbit
Or, say, a maid with taped evidence of your purchasing the drugs, who was about to reveal all to the cops. I'd say that would be pretty damning evidence, especially if they traced the calls back and were able to get a confession out of the dealer.

Yeah, damning but it means nothing. You have to be able to prove that the defendant indeed had drugs. i.e. testing of the substance.

HarmlessRabbit · 10-11-2003, 09:55 AM

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Yeah, damning but it means nothing. You have to be able to prove that the defendant indeed had drugs. i.e. testing of the substance.

Have you even read any of the news stories?

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-110349c.html

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Cline told the Enquirer she went to prosecutors with information about Limbaugh and others after four years of drug deals that included clandestine handoffs in a Denny's parking lot.

She said she wore a wire during her last two deliveries to the conservative commentator and gave the tapes to authorities.

She also gave the Enquirer a ledger documenting how many pills she claimed to have bought for him - 4,350 in one 47-day period - and E-mails she claimed Limbaugh sent her.

In one missive, Limbaugh pushed Cline to get more "little blues" - code for OxyContin, the powerful narcotic nicknamed hillbilly heroin, she said.

Rush has confessed to being a habitual drug abuser. Any fan of his saying he deserves leniency is a hypocrite.

Superbelt · 10-11-2003, 12:36 PM

After he died, Rush called Kurt Cobain, who was also being controlled by habitual drug use, a "total waste of a human life". I believe the same should also be applied to Rush by himself, and his listeners.

Superbelt · 10-11-2003, 12:38 PM

hmm, here is the exact quote.

"Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, was a worthless shred of human debris."

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/en...rush-limbaugh/

Food Eater Lad · 10-11-2003, 12:45 PM

I say whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

seretogis · 10-11-2003, 02:14 PM

Is anyone here suggesting that the authorities should be leniant on Limbaugh? I sure don't hear it -- all that I hear is commendation for coming clean about it and putting himself into rehab, again.

Superbelt · 10-11-2003, 02:40 PM

Well noone here has yet said be lenient on Rush. Course, Hannity said all us Liberals should for some mysterious reason give him a pass out of mercy or something.

JBX · 10-11-2003, 07:31 PM

Holy Crap HarmlessRabbit, where are the pills to test. You can't arrest someone for drugs on solely statements of people. It requires you to possess it. No one arrested Rush with pills in hand. He can't be charged no matter how many statements from other people you want to post.

HarmlessRabbit · 10-11-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by JBX
Holy Crap HarmlessRabbit, where are the pills to test. You can't arrest someone for drugs on solely statements of people. It requires you to possess it. No one arrested Rush with pills in hand. He can't be charged no matter how many statements from other people you want to post.

We can both armchair prosecute as long as you want. I'll wait to see what the people who are actually in charge do.

JBX · 10-11-2003, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by HarmlessRabbit
We can both armchair prosecute as long as you want. I'll wait to see what the people who are actually in charge do.

Good enough

Peryn · 10-11-2003, 09:54 PM

First off, do any of you people hating rush believe at all in our legal system? If you do, then you ought not convict, judge, and damn him to hell in jail before hearing the evidence and letting the facts come out in a court of law. Not this "but his maid said..." and taking that as fact BS.

Also, those who are yelling about his possible hypocrisy, stop and think about what you are saying. The liberal position usually states that drug problems are a health issue that should be dealt with and help to treat individuals with those problems recover from them, rather than prosecute them. You preach against the conservative / rush's opinion, until it happens to one of them. Then suddenly you switch and want him prosecuted. How is that any different than a conservative wanting to be lenient on rush? Who is the hyprocrite now? Rather than judging him by your beliefs and acting appropriately, you decide to suddenly attack him and call HIM the hypocrite? He hasn't asked for leniency, he hasn't said "dont prosecute me because im rush!". No. He declared that he messed up and that he should, and will, be held accountable, and that he is no hero. Again, where are his lies and hyprocrisy?

Superbelt · 10-12-2003, 10:40 AM

It's not liberal hypocracy. I believe that our drug laws are horribly out of whack. They should be changed and what he did should be treated as an illness rather than as a criminal violation. But as it is, I want equal treatment under the law, especially for someone who whole heartedly has been fighting for criminal prosecution of such a sickness.

We do not have to explain and justify liberal principles as they apply to Rush Limbaugh.

Perhaps (But not likely) once he has been passed through the lower intestines of the Penal system, he will change his views and champion a change in our drug laws.

Ustwo · 10-12-2003, 12:12 PM

Actually Rush's stance on legalizing drugs has always been they are too dangerous and hurt to many people (not just the user) to be legal. I don't see this making Rush change his stance, if anything he proved it.

HarmlessRabbit · 10-12-2003, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Peryn
First off, do any of you people hating rush believe at all in our legal system? If you do, then you ought not convict, judge, and damn him to hell in jail before hearing the evidence and letting the facts come out in a court of law. Not this "but his maid said..." and taking that as fact BS.

Jesus christ, are you completely brainwashed? HE ADMITTED TO BEING ADDICTED TO DRUGS. DO YOU THINK THEY DROPPED OUT OF THE SKY AND PUT THEMSELVES IN HIS BLOODSTREAM? CONVICTED OR NOT, HE COMMITTED SEVERAL FELONY-LEVEL CRIMES. READ HIS STATEMENT IN THE ORIGINAL POST ON THIS THREAD.

Whether he is charged or not is pretty irrelevant. He has admitted to being a common criminal. He's no better than a crack addict. In fact, he's worse since he is such a hypocrite.

10-10-2003, 12:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	Rush fesses up! http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99731,00.html NEW YORK — Radio talk show host and political commentator Rush Limbaugh stunned listeners Friday when he admitted that he is addicted to painkillers. "You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life," Limbaugh said on his program. "So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication." Friday, October 10, 2003 Following is the full text of radio commentator Rush Limbaugh's statement on-air statement, Friday, Oct. 10, 2003, according to Premiere Radio, his broadcaster: "You know I have always tried to be honest with you and open about my life. So I need to tell you today that part of what you have heard and read is correct. I am addicted to prescription pain medication. "I first started taking prescription painkillers some years ago when my doctor prescribed them to treat post-surgical pain following spinal surgery. Unfortunately, the surgery was unsuccessful and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs. I am still experiencing that pain. "Rather than opt for additional surgery for these conditions, I chose to treat the pain with prescribed medication. This medication turned out to be highly addictive. "Over the past several years I have tried to break my dependence on pain pills and, in fact, twice checked myself into medical facilities in an attempt to do so. I have recently agreed with my physician about the next steps. "Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me. The show will continue during this time, of course, with an array of guest hosts you have come to know and respect. "I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes. They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem. "At the present time, the authorities are conducting an investigation, and I have been asked to limit my public comments until this investigation is complete. So I will only say that the stories you have read and heard contain inaccuracies and distortions, which I will clear up when I am free to speak about them. "I deeply appreciate all your support over this last tumultuous week. It has sustained me. I ask now for your prayers. I look forward to resuming our excursion into broadcast excellence together." I am by no means a Rush fan but is kinda' nice for him to admit he has a problem and has had the problem for quite some time. It does make you wonder if he would ever have dealt with the problem had he not been forced by current events. __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!

10-10-2003, 12:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	Oops, well I guess that isn't as bad as smoking pot because you like to get high. Oh well, moral police always falls the hardest. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

10-10-2003, 12:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
JamesS Crazy Location: Land of the Hanging Chad	I would hope he will be turning himself in shortly. He has advocated on his show in the past that these types of drug offenses should be fully prosecuted, and I would expect nothing less from him now. __________________ The tragedy of life is what dies inside a man while he lives. -- Albert Schweitzer

10-10-2003, 01:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	Nice little speech, hope everything works out for him. __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.

10-10-2003, 01:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mr. Mojo Addict Location: NYC	That’s got to take a huge set of balls to confess on the radio to 20 million people- and a vengeful media - rather than sending out a publicist to do your dirty work for you. Think about it, if you or I had to go into a rehab clinic we would only have to tell maybe 10-20 people. And you can lie to some if your embarrassed. He went on the air and told all his listeners and critics about his weakness. Love him or hate him, that takes guts Good luck __________________ When I jerk off I feel good for about twenty seconds and then WHAM it's right back into suicidal depression

10-10-2003, 01:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Peryn Junkie Location: San Diego, CA.	""Immediately following this broadcast, I am checking myself into a treatment center for the next 30 days to once and for all break the hold this highly addictive medication has on me."" Enough said. That takes balls. I only hope that if i were in that situation i would have the courage and strength to finally get myself out of it. Good for him and best of luck. JamesS - he stated in the article that he turned himself into the police and they are conducting a full investigation, but they have asked him to limit his conversations about it. He also says several times that he takes full responsibility for his actions and that he is no role model. I seriously doubt he will try and duck and consequences of his actions. __________________ Dont cry kid, It's not your fault you suck.

10-10-2003, 03:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
JamesS Crazy Location: Land of the Hanging Chad	Peryn - I would hope not, because if there's one thing I can't stand about political or moral figures (from either side of the aisle) it's the hypocrisy. You know, the Bill Bennett types. __________________ The tragedy of life is what dies inside a man while he lives. -- Albert Schweitzer

10-10-2003, 03:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	#1 I'm pissed at Rush. I wouldn't call the guy a hero to me, but I have a lot of respect for him, and I still do, but I'm pissed he didn't take care of this himself earlier. He knew better. #2 Liberals can't aruge on the merits of their beliefs on most issues, so try to destroy the man saying those things. All this does is give them ammo for the politics of personal destruction. #3 Odds are Rush could have gotten away with it had he taken a Clinton stance. Nothing collected could have been used in court and the case against him was very weak. It did take balls to just say "Yes, I'm addicted." and I do respect him for that. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

10-10-2003, 04:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
lordjeebus ‚±‚Ìˆó˜U‚ª–Ú‚É“ü‚ç‚Ê‚© Location: College	I wonder if this ordeal will change, at least a little bit, his opinion on hardline punishment of drug abusers. I also wonder, if it did, would he have the balls to share his new perspective with his listeners? Or would he continue to tell them what they like to hear?

10-10-2003, 05:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	The hypocrisy of this piece of shit makes me want to puke. He's a big dumb meathead. I have never liked this asshole. Anyone with three brain cells in their head can see what a liar he is. First of all, he's so republican it even makes me sick. I mean, the fucker never disagrees with the republican party. Get a brain fuckface! It's OK to disagree with republicans once in a while. He's always wanted people to be punished as strictly as possible for shit like this and I hope he feels that wrath. Or better yet, I hope he takes a huge handful of pills and kills himself. I'm glad that everyone now sees what a weak pathetic lying sack of shit he is.

10-10-2003, 05:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
Macheath Junkie Location: Sydney, Australia	His act is over. There's nothing so pathetic as watching a bully try to flex their muscles after something like this has happened.

10-10-2003, 05:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
HarmlessRabbit Junkie Location: San Jose, CA	Vicodin is schedule III. The penalties for traffiking, which at the quantities he was buying he would qualify for, are: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html <b>First Offense: Not more than 5 years. Fine not more than $250,000 if an individual, $1 million if not an individual. Second Offense: Not more 10 yrs. Fine not more than $500,000 if an individual, $2 million if not an individual </b> I'd like to hear from the conservatives here what they think about drug sentencing and what penalties they think Rush deserves.

10-10-2003, 07:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
crewsor Women want me. Men fear me. Location: Maryland,USA	Yeah, it takes a lot of guts to admit you're a dope addict after its been disclosed against your will already. Had it not been brought to light, you wouldn't be hearing about it from the hypocritical blowhard. He is on record as saying any illegal drug use should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. I hope the legal system takes him at his word and makes him an example of the wonderful war on drugs. I'm sure 5 to 10 in the slammer will surely rehabilitate him. The best thing about this is now we get to see all the Ditto heads, backpedal and try to explain why its different for Rush, and the laws he endorsed should not apply to him. I believe jail is for people who are a threat to others well being, not for people with the sickness of addiction who need treatment not incarceration. But for Rush, I would make an exception. He knowingly broke many laws pertaining to illegal drugs, he advocates jail for that offense, so lets lock him up. To quote Rush " illegal drug users should be sent up" __________________ We all have wings, some of us just don't know why.

10-10-2003, 09:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
chavos Banned Location: St. Paul, MN	it's too bad... but it is difficult to ask for mercy when your public career has been to advocate denying mercy to others. maybe it will change his mind.

10-11-2003, 05:06 AM	#21 (permalink)
ARTelevision I change Location: USA	It's too bad. But this may end up broadening and deepening the conservative discourse. He tended to be a focus - and also a target. His guest hosts always provide extra perspective and broaden the show's message(s). Actually, these events will probably result in a needed education for his core audience, who focus too much on him as their spokesperson. Bad for Rush, good for conservatism in the long run. __________________ create evolution

10-11-2003, 05:09 AM	#22 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	When he confessed, in the distance, could you hear the librerals cheering? __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

10-11-2003, 05:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
maximusveritas Winner	This reminds me of Jeb Bush pleading for compassion for his daughter even though he showed no sympathy for other drug offenders, cutting drug treatment budgets and opposing the lessening of penaltlies for drug offenders. The word "hypocrite" does not do him justice. Still, I don't wish to see Rush go to jail since I don't like to alter my beliefs for the sake of payback. I hope this incident opens the eyes of Rush and his listeners. Maybe Rush can do some soul-searching and thinking and come out a new man. Who knows, maybe he'll even become a liberal.

10-11-2003, 08:43 AM	#25 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	I have one more comment regarding this issue. I want to call to task all the people bringing up the subject of jail. Nobody in the United States has ever gone to jail for being a illegal drug user. You have to be caught with product in hand. A sting, a legal stop and search with drugs turning up, etc. He used drugs, yes, he has said as much. A police case that would put him in jail, no. That would be equivalent to a drug dealer saying after he's arrested that he sold drugs to you, and the police coming to arrest you. Without a bust with the drugs involved, you have nothing but a popcorn fart. __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

10-11-2003, 12:36 PM	#29 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	After he died, Rush called Kurt Cobain, who was also being controlled by habitual drug use, a "total waste of a human life". I believe the same should also be applied to Rush by himself, and his listeners.

10-11-2003, 12:38 PM	#30 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	hmm, here is the exact quote. "Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, was a worthless shred of human debris." http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/en...rush-limbaugh/

10-11-2003, 12:45 PM	#31 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	I say whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

10-11-2003, 02:14 PM	#32 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	Is anyone here suggesting that the authorities should be leniant on Limbaugh? I sure don't hear it -- all that I hear is commendation for coming clean about it and putting himself into rehab, again. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

10-11-2003, 02:40 PM	#33 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Well noone here has yet said be lenient on Rush. Course, Hannity said all us Liberals should for some mysterious reason give him a pass out of mercy or something.

10-11-2003, 07:31 PM	#34 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	Holy Crap HarmlessRabbit, where are the pills to test. You can't arrest someone for drugs on solely statements of people. It requires you to possess it. No one arrested Rush with pills in hand. He can't be charged no matter how many statements from other people you want to post. __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

10-11-2003, 09:54 PM	#37 (permalink)
Peryn Junkie Location: San Diego, CA.	First off, do any of you people hating rush believe at all in our legal system? If you do, then you ought not convict, judge, and damn him to hell in jail before hearing the evidence and letting the facts come out in a court of law. Not this "but his maid said..." and taking that as fact BS. Also, those who are yelling about his possible hypocrisy, stop and think about what you are saying. The liberal position usually states that drug problems are a health issue that should be dealt with and help to treat individuals with those problems recover from them, rather than prosecute them. You preach against the conservative / rush's opinion, until it happens to one of them. Then suddenly you switch and want him prosecuted. How is that any different than a conservative wanting to be lenient on rush? Who is the hyprocrite now? Rather than judging him by your beliefs and acting appropriately, you decide to suddenly attack him and call HIM the hypocrite? He hasn't asked for leniency, he hasn't said "dont prosecute me because im rush!". No. He declared that he messed up and that he should, and will, be held accountable, and that he is no hero. Again, where are his lies and hyprocrisy? __________________ Dont cry kid, It's not your fault you suck.

10-12-2003, 10:40 AM	#38 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	It's not liberal hypocracy. I believe that our drug laws are horribly out of whack. They should be changed and what he did should be treated as an illness rather than as a criminal violation. But as it is, I want equal treatment under the law, especially for someone who whole heartedly has been fighting for criminal prosecution of such a sickness. We do not have to explain and justify liberal principles as they apply to Rush Limbaugh. Perhaps (But not likely) once he has been passed through the lower intestines of the Penal system, he will change his views and champion a change in our drug laws.

10-12-2003, 12:12 PM	#39 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Actually Rush's stance on legalizing drugs has always been they are too dangerous and hurt to many people (not just the user) to be legal. I don't see this making Rush change his stance, if anything he proved it. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.