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filtherton · 09-21-2003, 02:02 PM

Wowsers, I guess that's why they tell you not to feed the animals. One more for the undisiplined soldier box.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...raq_tiger_shot

U.S. Soldier Shoots Tiger at Baghdad Zoo
Sat Sep 20,11:32 AM ET

By SABAH JERGES, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A U.S. soldier shot and killed a tiger at the Baghdad zoo after it bit another soldier who had reached through the bars of its cage to feed it, a zoo security guard said Saturday.

The soldiers had been drinking beer when they entered the zoo Thursday night after it closed, said the guard, Zuhair Abdul-Majeed.

"He was drunk," Abdul-Majeed said of the bitten soldier.

After the man was bit, the other American shot the tiger three times in the head and killed it, Abdul-Majeed told The Associated Press.

It was impossible to reach the U.S. military spokesman's office because the telephones have not worked for three days.

The zoo reopened July 20, three months after Baghdad was captured by the Americans.

It had 1.5 million visitors in 2001 but hit hard times more recently. Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) closed it for renovation last year, and it was scheduled to reopen on April 7 with a $27 million facelift.

Instead, on that day, American troops were on the outskirts of Baghdad, and Iraqi fighters had booted the zookeepers from the park, setting up defensive positions among the cages.

When zoo workers returned a week later, some animals lay dead in their cages, others had escaped when mortar rounds blasted open the bars, and yet others had been looted.

Some wild animals roamed the park freely, including a bear that mauled and partially ate three civilians, and three lions that were shot to death when they tried to pounce on a contingent of invading American soldiers.

Since then, the surviving animals have been nursed back to health, and more animals have been brought in from a small private zoo across town and from the private zoos found in the palaces of Saddam's family.

The_Dude · 09-21-2003, 02:14 PM

that's definately not cool.

and wtf are they doing drunk in a zoo? i have a guess, but i dont think it's worth mentioning.

Food Eater Lad · 09-21-2003, 02:37 PM

Dumb assess. Dont feed the fucking tigers for a reason.

StormBerlin · 09-21-2003, 04:02 PM

That poor tiger. The guy deserved it. i hope he lost his arm.

Zeld2.0 · 09-21-2003, 04:08 PM

Oh no the animals are on teh loose ! RUNN!!!!1111

Stare At The Sun · 09-21-2003, 04:24 PM

Yeah, i hope that dumbshit can never jerk off again.

sapiens · 09-21-2003, 06:28 PM

Way to represent America!

seretogis · 09-21-2003, 06:30 PM

Incidents like this are to be expected when you mix alcohol with guns. I hope that the soldiers involved are thrown in jail and booted out of the service.

Moskie · 09-21-2003, 09:38 PM

I guess that'll teach the tiger not to bite the hand that feeds you!

ha ha.... ha.

just kidding, those soldiers are idiots.

debaser · 09-21-2003, 09:43 PM

They should be court-martialed and imprisoned.

Phaenx · 09-21-2003, 10:08 PM

Yeah I heard about this in an IRC room. It was from Reuters so I asked where the proof was (no pictures, should be blood stains, dead tiger, soldier with a missing finger. just seemed kind of fishy to me) since they're skewed to the left.

I got banned, I guess they thought it was a stupid question. Or maybe they didn't want to have to deal with a stupid ignorant conservative as I'm often categorized as. Still makes me wonder though, has this ever been confirmed?

debaser · 09-21-2003, 10:10 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...raq_tiger_dc_2

"A U.S. military spokesman confirmed that a member of the coalition forces shot and killed a tiger but gave no further details. "

Phaenx · 09-21-2003, 10:15 PM

Ah, okay thanks.

JBX · 09-22-2003, 05:59 AM

Some Dumb-ass bringing discredit on the rest of our men there doing good, dangerous work. I feel bad for the tiger.

archer2371 · 09-22-2003, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by debaser
They should be court-martialed and imprisoned.

They will be, mainly for being drunk while on duty and not killing the tiger. It's like if you show up to work drunk, you will most likely be fired.

debaser · 09-22-2003, 05:26 PM

Actually, you would be suprised how much trouble they will be in for killing an endangered species. DOD does not fuck around with that stuff.

almostaugust · 09-22-2003, 07:42 PM

I remeber CNN doing a feel good 'puff' story on the zoo reopening a couple of months ago. My god.

archer2371 · 09-23-2003, 03:57 AM

I was just going off of what I know about military law, I've had some conversations with some JAGs before, never heard them mention the endangered species stuff, tho I do imagine that will be a factor. A lessened one, because of the fact that the dumbass would have died if the tiger kept going.

Post Scriptum: I'm not advocating shooting a tiger in the head, killing ES's is dumb, I'm just saying that the self defense court defense will play into the role of the Court Martial.

Superbelt · 09-23-2003, 05:20 AM

Self defense arguments shouldn't work when you willingly shove your arm at a wild carnivorous animal.

And the soldiers life was not in jeopardy, The arm may have been bit off but the soldier would have survived without it.

archer2371 · 09-23-2003, 11:30 AM

The shouldn't but they do, kinda like when a guy injures himself breaking into a person's house and sues the people he was trying to rob for negligence, and wins at that.

09-21-2003, 02:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	Soldiers toss back beers, kill a caged tiger. Wowsers, I guess that's why they tell you not to feed the animals. One more for the undisiplined soldier box. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...raq_tiger_shot U.S. Soldier Shoots Tiger at Baghdad Zoo Sat Sep 20,11:32 AM ET By SABAH JERGES, Associated Press Writer BAGHDAD, Iraq - A U.S. soldier shot and killed a tiger at the Baghdad zoo after it bit another soldier who had reached through the bars of its cage to feed it, a zoo security guard said Saturday. The soldiers had been drinking beer when they entered the zoo Thursday night after it closed, said the guard, Zuhair Abdul-Majeed. "He was drunk," Abdul-Majeed said of the bitten soldier. After the man was bit, the other American shot the tiger three times in the head and killed it, Abdul-Majeed told The Associated Press. It was impossible to reach the U.S. military spokesman's office because the telephones have not worked for three days. The zoo reopened July 20, three months after Baghdad was captured by the Americans. It had 1.5 million visitors in 2001 but hit hard times more recently. Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) closed it for renovation last year, and it was scheduled to reopen on April 7 with a $27 million facelift. Instead, on that day, American troops were on the outskirts of Baghdad, and Iraqi fighters had booted the zookeepers from the park, setting up defensive positions among the cages. When zoo workers returned a week later, some animals lay dead in their cages, others had escaped when mortar rounds blasted open the bars, and yet others had been looted. Some wild animals roamed the park freely, including a bear that mauled and partially ate three civilians, and three lions that were shot to death when they tried to pounce on a contingent of invading American soldiers. Since then, the surviving animals have been nursed back to health, and more animals have been brought in from a small private zoo across town and from the private zoos found in the palaces of Saddam's family.

09-21-2003, 02:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	that's definately not cool. and wtf are they doing drunk in a zoo? i have a guess, but i dont think it's worth mentioning. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

09-21-2003, 04:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
StormBerlin Happy as a hippo Location: Southern California	That poor tiger. The guy deserved it. i hope he lost his arm. __________________ "if anal sex could get a girl pregnant i'd be tits deep in child support" Arcane

09-21-2003, 06:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	Incidents like this are to be expected when you mix alcohol with guns. I hope that the soldiers involved are thrown in jail and booted out of the service. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

09-21-2003, 09:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Moskie Pure Chewing Satisfaction Location: can i use bbcode [i]here[/i]?	I guess that'll teach the tiger not to bite the hand that feeds you! ha ha.... ha. just kidding, those soldiers are idiots. __________________ Greetings and salutations.

09-21-2003, 02:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	Dumb assess. Dont feed the fucking tigers for a reason.

09-21-2003, 04:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zeld2.0 Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate Location: Los Angeles	Oh no the animals are on teh loose ! RUNN!!!!1111

09-21-2003, 04:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	Yeah, i hope that dumbshit can never jerk off again.

09-21-2003, 06:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
sapiens Junkie Location: Some place windy	Way to represent America!

09-21-2003, 09:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
debaser Sir, I have a plan... Location: 38S NC20943324	They should be court-martialed and imprisoned. __________________ Fortunato became immured to the sound of the trowel after a while.

09-21-2003, 10:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	Yeah I heard about this in an IRC room. It was from Reuters so I asked where the proof was (no pictures, should be blood stains, dead tiger, soldier with a missing finger. just seemed kind of fishy to me) since they're skewed to the left. I got banned, I guess they thought it was a stupid question. Or maybe they didn't want to have to deal with a stupid ignorant conservative as I'm often categorized as. Still makes me wonder though, has this ever been confirmed? __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

09-21-2003, 10:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
debaser Sir, I have a plan... Location: 38S NC20943324	http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...raq_tiger_dc_2 "A U.S. military spokesman confirmed that a member of the coalition forces shot and killed a tiger but gave no further details. " __________________ Fortunato became immured to the sound of the trowel after a while.

09-21-2003, 10:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Phaenx The Northern Ward Location: Columbus, Ohio	Ah, okay thanks. __________________ "I went shopping last night at like 1am. The place was empty and this old woman just making polite conversation said to me, 'where is everyone??' I replied, 'In bed, same place you and I should be!' Took me ten minutes to figure out why she gave me a dirty look." --Some guy

09-22-2003, 05:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
JBX Unfair and Imbalanced Location: Upstate, NY	Some Dumb-ass bringing discredit on the rest of our men there doing good, dangerous work. I feel bad for the tiger. __________________ "Youth and Strength is no match for Age and Treachery"

09-22-2003, 05:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
debaser Sir, I have a plan... Location: 38S NC20943324	Actually, you would be suprised how much trouble they will be in for killing an endangered species. DOD does not fuck around with that stuff. __________________ Fortunato became immured to the sound of the trowel after a while.

09-22-2003, 07:42 PM	#17 (permalink)
almostaugust Junkie Location: Oz	I remeber CNN doing a feel good 'puff' story on the zoo reopening a couple of months ago. My god. __________________ 'And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe Maybe this year will be better than the last I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself To hold on to these moments as they pass'

09-23-2003, 03:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	I was just going off of what I know about military law, I've had some conversations with some JAGs before, never heard them mention the endangered species stuff, tho I do imagine that will be a factor. A lessened one, because of the fact that the dumbass would have died if the tiger kept going. Post Scriptum: I'm not advocating shooting a tiger in the head, killing ES's is dumb, I'm just saying that the self defense court defense will play into the role of the Court Martial. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

09-23-2003, 05:20 AM	#19 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Self defense arguments shouldn't work when you willingly shove your arm at a wild carnivorous animal. And the soldiers life was not in jeopardy, The arm may have been bit off but the soldier would have survived without it.

09-23-2003, 11:30 AM	#20 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	The shouldn't but they do, kinda like when a guy injures himself breaking into a person's house and sues the people he was trying to rob for negligence, and wins at that. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."