04-25-2003, 03:57 PM | #1 (permalink) | |
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Bush: Iraq's WMD May Have Been Destroyed
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full article here So, one of the major reasons now is "officially" false? or what? But hey, the iraqi people are now free to choose a new goverment, as long as it is no islamic goverment of course... http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/11...or_Iraq+.shtml
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04-25-2003, 10:35 PM | #4 (permalink) | |
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Re: Bush: Iraq's WMD May Have Been Destroyed
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04-26-2003, 04:09 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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Never realease photos
As stated before let these pictures serve as proof that Iraq is definatley up to no good.
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04-27-2003, 10:08 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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Where'd you get those pictures? The second from the last looks like it may be tampered with.
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04-27-2003, 04:54 PM | #10 (permalink) | |
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04-27-2003, 05:27 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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*waves his hand in front of Sun Tzu* These are not the droids you are looking for.
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04-27-2003, 07:14 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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maybe too early but
maybe all the nay sayers should wait 9 years like we had to for all the inspections to work, huh?
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04-27-2003, 09:33 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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I sure hope they find something 100% concrete, or we're gonna look like a bunch of jackasses.
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04-27-2003, 09:40 PM | #14 (permalink) | |
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If there aren't any WMD to speak of, what would the Inspectors have found in 9 years? |
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04-28-2003, 05:56 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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I think GWB will lose a lot of face internationally if nothing is found.
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04-28-2003, 06:17 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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He has a face to loose?
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04-28-2003, 09:36 AM | #17 (permalink) | |
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Maybe just maybe a country will think before aiding a terrorist group. Example...Syria, North Korea, and Iran all want dialogue now. Why? Because GW has the balls Slick Willie did not have(that is except to put them on that fatty Monica's chin) to stand up to Rogue states with American might.
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04-28-2003, 11:50 AM | #19 (permalink) | |
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04-28-2003, 10:58 PM | #20 (permalink) | |
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In some cases confrontation is the only way to make other governments realize you mean business. It worked with Reagan versus the Soviet Union, and it seems to work with Bush and the middle-east. |
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04-29-2003, 05:56 AM | #21 (permalink) | |
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It is stupid to give credit to Dubya for the "preemptive" attacks. Any president in his/her right mind would do the SAME. Nader or Gore would have bombed Afganistan/Iraq/rest of the world. Did America think when it was aiding terrorist groups? Or how about when we aided the Taliban? Or sold WMD's to Saddam to kill Iraninans? Now to your "American might" statement...That is not a way to get the world on our side. These "rogue" states are bitter and resentful for years of backstabbing and ignorance by the Red White and the Blue. Do you really feel devestating a whole nation will really elimiate the bitterness? How has the destruction of Baghdad brought, us Americans who are paying for this, any more feeling of safety? Are the Twin Towers back? The colorful and interesting "Terror threat level" sits at the same spot it was before iraq was destroyed. |
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04-29-2003, 06:10 AM | #22 (permalink) |
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"How has the destruction of Baghdad brought, us Americans who are paying for this, any more feeling of safety? Are the Twin Towers back?"
Guess that would depend a whole lot on what your definition of destruction is. Does't look like it has destroyed - or for that matter even damaged to any great extent. Destruction is what Europe looked like after WW II. I would imagine that in 30 days, other than some damage to government buildings, Baghdad will be in better physical shape than it was prior to when the Baghdad Urban Renewal Project commenced. Are we feeling safer? I think you can answer that questioin for your self! Have there been any more attacks on this country other than those of 9-11? Do you honestly feel that was all there was planned - that they intended to make this a one day stand with nothing else to follow? I don't care for the current Attorney General (I think he is a Bible thumping twit!) - I do not like the way some things have been done but they obviously have been effective and accomplished what was intended. " Nader or Gore would have bombed Afganistan/Iraq/rest of the world" ... One might ask what you've been smoking on this one! Quoted - Simple_Min
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04-29-2003, 06:26 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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I think the Baghdad's destrudction ( directly and indrectly due to bombings) has been discussed here so i'm not going to touch up on that.
9-11 occured many many years after the incidents of the 80's. Although there are many plots being foiled ( thankfully! ), the stageering number of plots is shocking. Keep in mind we are only hearing about the one's that are being foiled so there is this other percentage of plots in development that the "pre emtive" hawks haven't gotten to yet. So as time reaches infinity, our safety in relation to time will be approaching zero. Either way you look at it, this current policy/method of prevention is a short term project. This will not help in the long term.
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04-29-2003, 06:29 AM | #24 (permalink) | |
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04-29-2003, 06:30 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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I'd really like to hear about what you think Gore or Nader would have done? That is really getting out there!
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04-29-2003, 06:34 AM | #26 (permalink) | |
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lol geez. Okay, do you think a US President would not approve the "retaliation" of 9/11 on the next day as resident bush did? When public opinion was overwhelmingly supportive of attacking Al Queda, why would non-republican president say "No, we will use the path of justice and law and find those who did this and then attack." My whole point for saying this is to unattach this "positive aura" bush is getting for "doing a good job" He isn't doing anything for one, and he isn't doing anything that a Non Republican president wouldn't do. (Foreign, not domestic matters) |
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04-29-2003, 06:37 AM | #27 (permalink) | |
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04-29-2003, 06:39 AM | #28 (permalink) | |
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04-29-2003, 06:42 AM | #29 (permalink) |
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"Are we safer"
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030505&s=cohen More on the "safety" issue of us Americans.
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04-29-2003, 06:59 AM | #31 (permalink) | |
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North Korea? Wants to talk! The other points along this line deal with the recruiting of young Arabs to the Palestinian cause - looks like they are talking more seriously about settling their differences now that in any time in recent history. One cause of resentment has been our presence in Saudi Arabia - that is ending. There is just something about watching someone you are afraid of getting the dog crap slapped out of them that gets neighbors attention. Will Iran get rid of its current theocracy? If the Iraqi thing works out changes will take place among all of Iraq's neighbors.
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04-29-2003, 07:52 AM | #32 (permalink) | |
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As for the museums: how would you have reacted if the US had stopped the looting by shooting dozens of those thieves, as was probably required? Is protecting cultural heritage more important than protecting human lives? |
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05-02-2003, 07:06 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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Don't you think it could be more a delaying tactic than actually wanting to negotiate?
(by all means I wasn't being sarcastic, it's a legitimate question.) I mean, if I had the world's largest military on my backporch, I would certainly say I wanted to talk. Don't you think that once we move out of the area, or at least move a massive chunk of the forces, that Kim Jong Il and company will be back to their old ways?
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05-02-2003, 09:44 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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I am 100% sure teh the US will find these WMD... even if saddam destroyed all of his... why do you think they wont let the UN inspectors in? it is because the allied inspectors are "looking" for them them, by themselves.... then they will show it to the UN when they find something *wink* *wing*
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05-03-2003, 12:16 AM | #35 (permalink) | |
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05-03-2003, 01:16 AM | #36 (permalink) | |
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I have yet to see Bush conquer Europe to create "lebensraum" for the superior American people. That scenario is quite far removed from the one where a big country shows it's muscles to convince smaller ones not to piss it off. The first scenario is offensive, and the other defensive in nature. |
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05-03-2003, 02:13 AM | #37 (permalink) | |
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05-03-2003, 07:01 PM | #38 (permalink) | |
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05-03-2003, 07:03 PM | #39 (permalink) | |
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05-03-2003, 11:38 PM | #40 (permalink) |
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Dubya's most recent soundbites refute this earlier insinuation...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2999225.stm If we don't find 'em, and Iraq becomes Iran II...what a war to win, and a peace to lose. |
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