Someone needs to re-read The Godfather - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

2wolves · 09-02-2003, 09:44 AM

"[M]ainly it was Coleman’s proxies who played it dirty," Al Franken writes. "The National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) ran an ad called ‘Pork’ that hit the hypocrisy jackpot. It savaged Wellstone for voting ‘to spend thousands of dollars to control seaweed in Maui,’ claiming that he prioritized seaweed control over national defense. In fact, Wellstone did vote for S.1216, as did Strom Thurmond, Trent Lott and 84 other senators. That bill did appropriate the seaweed control spending—but it also provided $21 billion for veterans’ health care, $27 billion for veterans’ compensation and pensions, and block grants to assist New York City’s recovery from 9/11. The NRSC was chaired that year by Bill Frist, who later replaced Lott as Senate majority leader. Before the memorial, Frist spoke with the Wellstones’ older son, David, who later recounted the conversation to me.

"‘I’m sorry about your parents and your sister,’ Frist told David.

"‘Did you authorize the seaweed ad against my dad?’ David asked.

"‘Yes,’ said Frist.

"‘And did you vote for the seaweed bill?’

"There was a pause. They both knew that the answer was yes. Finally, Frist said, ‘It wasn’t personal.’

"‘My dad took it personal,’ David said. ‘Thanks for coming to my family’s memorial.’"

Exerpt from Franken's book.

To quote Don Vito Corleone "It's all personal."

2Wolves

Lebell · 09-02-2003, 09:54 AM

Ouch.

God, I hate politics.

chavos · 09-02-2003, 11:41 AM

i'm surprised david talked shop with the opposition after the accident, but that family always did insist on honor in politics, so i guess it doesn't surprise me...

SaltPork · 09-02-2003, 01:21 PM

That was a confusing thing to read. Politics is stupid.

mml · 09-02-2003, 03:58 PM

One of the reasons Wellstone was so great is that he took things personally, it was also one of his greatest weaknesses. Politicians must be able to take the heat, unfortuately they must be able to give some backas well.

tinfoil · 09-03-2003, 02:05 PM

After reading what happened, all I can say is David is a better man than I.

09-02-2003, 09:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
2wolves Psycho Location: Just outside the D.C. belt	Someone needs to re-read The Godfather "[M]ainly it was Coleman’s proxies who played it dirty," Al Franken writes. "The National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) ran an ad called ‘Pork’ that hit the hypocrisy jackpot. It savaged Wellstone for voting ‘to spend thousands of dollars to control seaweed in Maui,’ claiming that he prioritized seaweed control over national defense. In fact, Wellstone did vote for S.1216, as did Strom Thurmond, Trent Lott and 84 other senators. That bill did appropriate the seaweed control spending—but it also provided $21 billion for veterans’ health care, $27 billion for veterans’ compensation and pensions, and block grants to assist New York City’s recovery from 9/11. The NRSC was chaired that year by Bill Frist, who later replaced Lott as Senate majority leader. Before the memorial, Frist spoke with the Wellstones’ older son, David, who later recounted the conversation to me. "‘I’m sorry about your parents and your sister,’ Frist told David. "‘Did you authorize the seaweed ad against my dad?’ David asked. "‘Yes,’ said Frist. "‘And did you vote for the seaweed bill?’ "There was a pause. They both knew that the answer was yes. Finally, Frist said, ‘It wasn’t personal.’ "‘My dad took it personal,’ David said. ‘Thanks for coming to my family’s memorial.’" Exerpt from Franken's book. To quote Don Vito Corleone "It's all personal." 2Wolves

09-02-2003, 09:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Ouch. God, I hate politics. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

09-02-2003, 01:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
SaltPork Everything's better with bacon Location: In your local grocer's freezer.	That was a confusing thing to read. Politics is stupid. __________________ It was like that when I got here....I swear.

09-02-2003, 03:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
mml Adrift Location: Wandering in the Desert of Life	One of the reasons Wellstone was so great is that he took things personally, it was also one of his greatest weaknesses. Politicians must be able to take the heat, unfortuately they must be able to give some backas well. __________________ Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -Douglas Adams

09-03-2003, 02:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
tinfoil Fucking Hostile Location: Springford, ON, Canada	After reading what happened, all I can say is David is a better man than I. __________________ Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

09-02-2003, 11:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
chavos Banned Location: St. Paul, MN	i'm surprised david talked shop with the opposition after the accident, but that family always did insist on honor in politics, so i guess it doesn't surprise me...