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JcL · 09-01-2003, 10:29 AM

Personally I think that, as a tradition, marriage should be kept between a man and a woman. At the same time, homosexual couples definitely need the same rights as married couples. Visitation rights for instance, how wills work, finances being in both names, etc. So as opposed to marriage I'd prefer to see a state recognized "Union." If this could not be achieved, I'd support marriage anyways because people deserve equal rights. I guess I'm simply old fashioned about how I would define marriage.

One problem I have though with gay marriage being allowed though, is that an arguement is given that 'its between consenting adults, who's to stop it'. But what about polygomy? Most people find this repulsive, yet its between consenting adults. The slippery slope is always a weak arguement - but its still a valid concern I think.

giblfiz · 09-01-2003, 12:36 PM

Most people I know don't find Polygamy repulsive. A lot of them are in the "its not for me" camp, but why would it be repulsive? Why can't people just not worry about their neighbors soul and stay out of their bedroom.

The question I have heard here which is the most insightfully is "why do we need a legal concept of marriage?"

guthmund · 09-02-2003, 12:06 AM

I think Chavos answered that one pretty well.

It's an economic lean to. The government chooses to hand out incentives. The insurance company chooses to hand out incentives. Most important, the courts need a concept of marriage to apply fair law.

You need a set of critereon to judge folks by to determine whether they get to take advantage of these incentives. Likewise you need a set of critereon for the courts to administer to determine whether you're entitled to child support, alimony, property, widower's rights, etc....

You need a legal concept of marriage/civil union and you need the rules to apply across the board for everyone

It seems a little unfair to discriminate against couples just because they've got a matching set of genitalia.

09-01-2003, 10:29 AM	#81 (permalink)
JcL Crazy Location: Simi Valley, CA	Personally I think that, as a tradition, marriage should be kept between a man and a woman. At the same time, homosexual couples definitely need the same rights as married couples. Visitation rights for instance, how wills work, finances being in both names, etc. So as opposed to marriage I'd prefer to see a state recognized "Union." If this could not be achieved, I'd support marriage anyways because people deserve equal rights. I guess I'm simply old fashioned about how I would define marriage. One problem I have though with gay marriage being allowed though, is that an arguement is given that 'its between consenting adults, who's to stop it'. But what about polygomy? Most people find this repulsive, yet its between consenting adults. The slippery slope is always a weak arguement - but its still a valid concern I think. __________________ "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth then lies." - Nietzsche

09-01-2003, 12:36 PM	#82 (permalink)
giblfiz is a shoggoth Location: LA	Most people I know don't find Polygamy repulsive. A lot of them are in the "its not for me" camp, but why would it be repulsive? Why can't people just not worry about their neighbors soul and stay out of their bedroom. The question I have heard here which is the most insightfully is "why do we need a legal concept of marriage?" __________________ Use the star one and you'll be fighting off the old ones with your bare hands -A Shoggoth on the Roof

09-02-2003, 12:06 AM	#83 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	I think Chavos answered that one pretty well. It's an economic lean to. The government chooses to hand out incentives. The insurance company chooses to hand out incentives. Most important, the courts need a concept of marriage to apply fair law. You need a set of critereon to judge folks by to determine whether they get to take advantage of these incentives. Likewise you need a set of critereon for the courts to administer to determine whether you're entitled to child support, alimony, property, widower's rights, etc.... You need a legal concept of marriage/civil union and you need the rules to apply across the board for everyone It seems a little unfair to discriminate against couples just because they've got a matching set of genitalia. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.