08-15-2003, 02:38 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Capital Abortion
I live in a country where it's illegal to kill a convicted criminal but ok to slaughter an innocent child.
They also make you wear a seatbelt or suffer a fine, but allow people to smoke causing themselves and others cancer. In the words of Goldmember..... "Ishn't dat veird?" |
08-15-2003, 03:25 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Do you believe in Christianity?
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08-15-2003, 03:30 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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No, I go right for the source, I believe in God.
What are some of your hobbies?
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08-15-2003, 03:41 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Assisted suicide? hmm.
Not the act, the victim. Is someone aborted really an innocent child, or is it an innocent fetus, is it even innocent? That's what I was asking about. -b
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08-15-2003, 03:49 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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*going to start a count on abortion threads*
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08-15-2003, 04:44 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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Oh, I thought your were offended by my choice of wording. I suppose it comes down to.... put yourself in the position of the doctor, could you yourself destroy the fetus?
That, and of course whether you're grateful that it wasn't done to you.
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08-15-2003, 05:20 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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FYI Fetus is Greek (latin is prolly what I am thinking) for little or innocent one, so using the term to try and strip an unborn child of its humanity is ridiculous.
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08-15-2003, 05:46 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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ps...not at all. Would I, I really hope not. Could I, probably not.
mpp...I didn't try and strip anything. honestly. L...how many off the top o yo 'ead? -b
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08-15-2003, 06:53 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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When the little person can survive on their own, outside the womb, then it is murder.
Before this point it is a zygote, needing the host to survive. If the host decides to terminate the zygote, so be it.
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08-15-2003, 07:29 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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I hate abortion, I hate the thought of it, I hate the idea of it.
Now back to reality. I'm not a woman, so it's really none of my damn business.
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08-15-2003, 08:14 PM | #14 (permalink) | |
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we kill a lot of other living things at a stage much farther than the zygote.
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08-15-2003, 08:20 PM | #15 (permalink) | ||
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08-16-2003, 05:19 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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Its people's choice to smoke. They government doesnt need to stop everything that people would choose to do that is bad for them. Im also pro-choice when it comes to abortion. We kill many many animals that are far past the stage of a fetus being aborted, do you feel bad for them too? Maybe Im just cold hearted, but I really dont care about other people's choice to have a child aborted. Some children SHOULD be aborted, because their parents wont be able to support them (IE on wellfare sucking my tax dollars away), and they are going to end up as fucked up people who dont contribute to society anyway, or probably in jail wasting my tax dollars. Death is a much better choice than a lifetime of suffering.
As for assisted suicide, Im all for it. If people want to die that bad, then fuck it, let them die. We are overpopulated anyway.
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08-16-2003, 11:16 AM | #18 (permalink) | |
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08-16-2003, 03:10 PM | #19 (permalink) | |
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1) The people (voters) like to be safe, their representatives pass legislation to keep them safe (police, ect.) 2)The government collects taxes from people. The safer these people are, the longer they live and the more taxes they are likely to pay. |
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08-16-2003, 03:20 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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I think abortion is something women need to sort out. I am pro choice, but it is not my (or any other guy's) choice to make. It should be up to each individual woman to make her own choices.
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08-16-2003, 06:50 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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Lots of great input folks, I appreciate it. I still think it's wonky (My orriginal post) that they legislate and initiate programs that contradict each other ..... makes you wonder;
What if they just say no, and close tobacco plants People drive without seatbelts with no consequence. We let new life grow and kill those who have proven themselves worthless. What if we rely on human kindness and common sense to fund social programs instead of excessive taxation.... Just a thought.
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08-17-2003, 04:47 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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I agree with reconmike, when the parasite can survive outside the host, then it should be afforded separate entity status. Until then it is a growth and excising it is no more murder than removing a tumor.
I can see the reason behind forcing drivers to wear seatbelts, it costs the government money to scrape people off the pavement, not to mention how it screws up traffic. And in a socialized health care system like canada, it does cost the government money to deal with peoples tobacco related illnesses. |
08-17-2003, 06:57 PM | #26 (permalink) | |
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08-18-2003, 11:27 AM | #27 (permalink) | |
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Canadian Gallup Poll (Nov. 2002) Actually surprised myself with the above stat, had a feeling, but didn't know the facts, but now that I do.... If someone kicks your fence down, do what is in your best interest, may I suggest finding the fence kicker and castrating him, or maybe a little CAPITAL punishment.... gotta love CAPITAL punishment..... yep.... good stuff...... |
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08-18-2003, 12:00 PM | #28 (permalink) | |
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As for your statistics, they refer to Canada, and it's a POLL, not a case study. So I'm less impressed than I could be.
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08-18-2003, 06:45 PM | #29 (permalink) | |
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When I get a chance I'll do some more hunting for info maybe I can shed some more light on it..... In the mean time, there's very little wrong with vengeance, it's human nature, I know if my fence were kicked down I would be looking for a little more than having our justice system give him/her several months or a couple of years....
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08-19-2003, 12:41 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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Yeah, I can see your point, but from a male point of view...there's not a lot of other avenues to go down.
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08-19-2003, 02:06 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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Prosequence, I told you this thread would get a lot of use, and I for 1 am happy with the diversity of response. As to the issue, I am against abortion and would not be a party to it (except in the cases brought up ealier) but I do agree with a woman's right to choose. I cannot justify this position and realize i am sitting on some kind of fence but that is how it is.
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08-19-2003, 05:29 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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OK.... here's something a friend brought up reading over my shoulder...
(Before going on I do realise that this would be extremely rare) What if a woman was to rape a man or steal his sperm... would he have the right to have the baby aborted ?? Should he ??
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08-21-2003, 08:00 AM | #35 (permalink) | |
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08-21-2003, 08:15 AM | #36 (permalink) | |
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08-21-2003, 08:17 AM | #37 (permalink) | |
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I AGREE WITH RECONMIKE! |
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Do I need to finish? Now, on the act of steeling his sperm he can press charges and the woman would probably do jail time. |
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08-22-2003, 07:18 PM | #39 (permalink) |
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Yes, he can mentally suffer. Which if you ask the courts they validate it.
Seeing that person walking around ... belly getting bigger.... knowing the child inside is yours... ew kinda creepy.
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08-23-2003, 01:35 AM | #40 (permalink) |
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Abortion is GOOD. Think about it, you pay your tax and that goes to everything. Teen mothers often do not parent at ALL to what a ready family can. So the Teen brings up a jackoff kid, that will act out. He goes to jail, I pay more tax to keep him there. No abortion = more jackoffs in jail = more tax. And I hate how much my taxes are!
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