roachboy

i meant this.
the pathway to it was shaped by ace's rather loopy contention, stated in the form of some imaginary "gambit," that the opposite was the case.

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aceventura3

I will spell it out.

First, I presented some questions to try to understand the issue better.Here is my conclusion based on what has been shared here and what I have observed generally:

Under ordinary circumstances Palin would have easily faded into obscurity being a losing VP candidate and resigning as governor before her term ended. But she has not.

Most of the reason that she has not faded is because those who claim to dislike her the most provide her with the most support. They trip over themselves to be the first to comment on how uninformed/unprofessional/etc/etc. she is. They also argue how her influence is weak and unappealing to a mass audience. However, their support (buying/reading her books, high TV ratings of interviews or when she is the topic, following her Tweets and Youtube videos, etc), creates their own little paradox. Hence, "I" read her book because "I" need to Know what her opposing views are, even if they are ignorant or simply lies - and since "they" are giving her so much support "they" legitimize their need to follow everything she does and says.

So, we get to the idea of this thread and the need to make public pronouncements that there needs to be a month long Palin moratorium. It is a tacit acknowledgment of an addiction. However, it is not a true first step in resolving the addiction, because there is not a willingness to honestly acknowledge the addiction. Here is the free advise to those who want to end the Palin addiction, admit it. Stop blaming Palin.

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I would love for Condelisa Rice to consider a run for President or consider being a VP. She would be my number one choice hands down, no questions asked.

I would have voted for Hilery Clinton in the general election over McCain and i felt the media treated her unfairly in her run against Obama.
I supported:
Carly Fiorina.
Meg Whitman
Nikki Haley
I supported Elizabeth Dole in her last run for Senate in NC, however a last minute blunder cost her almost all of her credibility.

When I was 12 Shirley Chisholm ran for President and she was the first candidate I actually paid attention to.

I have always liked and have been impressed by Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

And i am sure there are others that don't come to mind right now.

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jewels

I see the trend and it's great to know you'd support a female candidate. I can see a value in most of the women you've supported, but is this to be interpreted to mean you support Palin because she's of the fairer sex? Or is this another evasion tactic? You did say you'd answer questions with honesty and directness, ya?

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aceventura3

My nature is that I would stand in defense of a female much sooner than I would a male if I feel she is being treated unfairly or is being attacked. A female would be better able to get me to listen to reason than a male. It would take less for me to trust a female than a male. Some consider me to be a chauvinist, but I am not - I sincerely believe in equal opportunity regardless of sex, but the truth is that females have an advantage with me given my personality. With that being said, Nancy Pelosi is a person and a type of person I could never support or defend. Her style is grating, like running your finger nail down a chalk board grating - that bit of a contradiction I can not explain.

{added} So, a direct answer to your question is yes. If Palin were male and everything else being equal, I might defend her a bit but not with the same vigor.

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"If you live among wolves you have to act like one."
"A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."

jewels

Are you saying her gender is your response?

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aceventura3

No.

The implication in your question is that there is a singular motivator to my behavior. It clearly is not, but as I wrote above gender has an impact. We happened to be discussing gender, but I would add that being a humble person of humble beginnings or a person who has had to struggle for success is a bigger factor than gender. That may in fact be part of part of my issue with Pelosi. The primary problem I have with Obama is that he is a b.s. artist, a snake oil salesman.

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"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions on vegetarianism while the wolf is of a different opinion."
"If you live among wolves you have to act like one."
"A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."

Willravel

Okay, everyone, tomorrow's the start of February. If you're so inclined this month will be Palin-free. No need to talk about her, no need to post or blog about her, and no need to watch or listen to or read about her in the media. We'll reconnect here in a month and, if so inclined, discuss how the experiment went. If it's gone better than expected, maybe we don't even need to meet back here.

animosity

I believe it is good to give yourself a break from politics every so often, but this just seems a bit silly. It seems to me like it would be more effective to just stop talking about Palin if she bothers you so much.