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Old 07-03-2009, 03:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Sarah Palin, who surprised the U.S. political world last year by becoming Republican John McCain's vice presidential running mate, surprised again on Friday by announcing her resignation as Alaska's governor.

Palin, a former small-town mayor who became governor in December 2006, has been touted as a potential candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012.

As McCain's Number Two, she ignited conservatives with her social views but turned off other voters who believed she was unprepared for the White House.

Having maintained her popularity at home in Alaska, why would she quit now? There are several possibilities:

* She frees herself from the constraints of daily governing so she can spend all her time pursuing national office. This would put her on a level playing field with potential Republican presidential primary opponents Mitt Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, and Newt Gingrich, a former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives. Another potential rival, Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, also recently announced he would not seek re-election. Conversely, Palin's decision could diminish a selling point -- the fact that she has executive experience and knows how to run a state.

* She can make some money. Leaving her job would allow Palin to take a job in the private sector or take advantage of her popularity to bring in cash as a public speaker, author or talk-show host, possibly still making a run for national office.

* Palin could use the time to run for the U.S. Senate for Sen. Lisa Murkowski's seat in November 2010. Palin could use that job as a springboard for a presidential race.

* Palin can add to her credentials as a "maverick," something both she and McCain emphasized during the 2008 campaign. Palin said she wanted to put Alaska first. She could use her decision to step down as evidence that she would not seek higher office while governor and so do harm to her home state.

* Palin may have grown tired of being a lightning rod for the American media and decided she wanted a break. The announcement was made late on a Friday before a U.S. holiday weekend -- an indication that she may have wanted to "bury" the news.

* She fears a looming political problem, perhaps even a scandal, and wanted out of the limelight, before the news broke. "If there is any evidence that the decision was a result of political problems or looming scandals, she is done," said Julian Zelizer, a Princeton University history professor.

(Editing by Howard Goller)
I'm guessing the last one. It's way too early to be considering a Republican nomination, especially when "inexperience" is a common charge against you. I'm betting there's a big rotting moose carcass in the future of Alaska's executive branch.
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Old 07-03-2009, 03:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Mkay. Hopefully Alaska is able to find a willing and capable governor.
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Or she's really as ambitious as she seems, and she's throwing away the useless lame-duck period of her term for more time to build grassroots toward 2012. Screw Alaska? It's all about Sara in the White House? Dunno, but that's what it seems like to me.
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Old 07-03-2009, 04:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Palin can add to her credentials as a "maverick," something both she and McCain emphasized during the 2008 campaign. Palin said she wanted to put Alaska first. She could use her decision to step down as evidence that she would not seek higher office while governor and so do harm to her home state.
Or it could be scandal. A lot of high ranking GOP heavy hitters are tried of her "maverick" way. Or as they're now calling it "crap."
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Sarah Palin is a maverick like I'm Queen of England.
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If i had a good husband and a precious young family and i was doing more than my part to help my country, giving all my time and energy to help "the people"...whether i was politically polished or not

...and "the people" in turn were spending all their time on their butts posting disgusting degrading photoshopped pictures of me on the internet like the one i just saw in the tfp of a nude palin with pasties in a sacreligious portrayal of being nailed to the cross...

...or the media, airing for ridicule, beauty queen pageant photos of me in a swimsuit during the presidential campaign and making a big deal of a $150,000 wardrobe while no one said a word about what michelle spent has spent so far or the whole outrageous bill for obama's campaign

...or scrutinizing my children's personal lives, digging into our past to find scandal, and minimizing the contributions and accomplishments i had made for america

...yes, i'd leave too...why didn't she leave sooner is my question

...what has become of America's decency?
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I think that she is going to either:

become a Tina Fey impersonator; or

take Dog, The Bounty Hunter's gig
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i just think she'll take a dayjob as a dog groomer or some mundane everyday job and fade away into oblivion.

i never thought she had the knack to run for office, and she could never have sustained her run, so i saw this coming for a while now
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Sarah Palin is a maverick like I'm Queen of England.
So then can you hook me up with a knighthood? I, if nothing else, mean that's got make it easier to get better seats to stuff, right?
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...what has become of America's decency?
I've come to the conclusion that no one seriously defends Governor Palin anymore, even the farthest right-wing loons. At this point any defense of her is involuntary, like an action repeated several times a day every day for many months being committed to muscle memory. It's not even dissonance, it's more like a tick or a yid. I doubt even Governor Palin herself would buy someone honestly coming to her defense.
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I've come to the conclusion that no one seriously defends Governor Palin anymore, even the farthest right-wing loons. At this point any defense of her is involuntary, like an action repeated several times a day every day for many months being committed to muscle memory. It's not even dissonance, it's more like a tick or a yid. I doubt even Governor Palin herself would buy someone honestly coming to her defense.

Not a Fox viewer eh?
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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So then can you hook me up with a knighthood? I if nothing else mean that's got make it easier to get better seats to stuff, right?
sure, there you go.
May you now be known as Sir Tully, yada, yada, yada.
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The rumor mill is saying there is a federal indictment coming down for misuse of funds while she was mayor of Wasilla.
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sure, there you go.
May you now be known as Sir Tully, yada, yada, yada.
Let's go grab a pint.
I shall spend the rest of my days correcting anyone not referring to me as "Sir."

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The rumor mill is saying there is a federal indictment coming down for misuse of funds while she was mayor of Wasilla.
Rumor mill also said her kid was really her daughters.
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 07-03-2009, 07:25 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Not a Fox viewer eh?
I don't think you could call them serious defenders when they're getting paid to do it. For enough money I might even consider defending Governor Palin. Well, maybe not.
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If i had a good husband and a precious young family and i was doing more than my part to help my country, giving all my time and energy to help "the people"...whether i was politically polished or not

...and "the people" in turn were spending all their time on their butts posting disgusting degrading photoshopped pictures of me on the internet like the one i just saw in the tfp of a nude palin with pasties in a sacreligious portrayal of being nailed to the cross...

...or the media, airing for ridicule, beauty queen pageant photos of me in a swimsuit during the presidential campaign and making a big deal of a $150,000 wardrobe while no one said a word about what michelle spent has spent so far or the whole outrageous bill for obama's campaign

...or scrutinizing my children's personal lives, digging into our past to find scandal, and minimizing the contributions and accomplishments i had made for america

...yes, i'd leave too...why didn't she leave sooner is my question

...what has become of America's decency?
Im sorry, but when you use your kids as a prop in a convention, and put them in the cover of every magazine out there talking about how it feels to be a teen mom, you can't really turn around and complain that people talk about you and scrutinize your lives.
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Old 07-03-2009, 08:51 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Hopefully her star fades away quickly now. Despite how nice it would feel to vote against her in the next Republican primary, I'd rather never have to hear her name again.
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I've come to the conclusion that no one seriously defends Governor Palin anymore, even the farthest right-wing loons. At this point any defense of her is involuntary, like an action repeated several times a day every day for many months being committed to muscle memory. It's not even dissonance, it's more like a tick or a yid. I doubt even Governor Palin herself would buy someone honestly coming to her defense.
...my comment you referred to said nothing about "defense". I did not say that decency=defense. My comment was about public ridicule to the nth degree. Sure, politicians expect their "fair share" of public ridicule but posting nude photoshopped pictures of her with pasties nailed to the cross in a sacreligious double mockery, which is only one example in a sea of public ridicule, is more than Palin's "fair share". And my point was..."yes, i would leave too"...enough is enough.

...anyone who does this for sport lacks decency



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Or she's really as ambitious as she seems, and she's throwing away the useless lame-duck period of her term for more time to build grassroots toward 2012. Screw Alaska? It's all about Sara in the White House? Dunno, but that's what it seems like to me.
I think this is the most likely explanation, though I'd love it if the rumors of scandal were true. I'd really like Sarah Palin to go away.
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She knows what will happen if she shows her mental instability one more time. Trying to spare the family from the embarassment.

Or else she realized she could do better as a porn star without having to speak words that weren't fed to her.
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I don't think you could call them serious defenders when they're getting paid to do it. For enough money I might even consider defending Governor Palin. Well, maybe not.
I wasn't really speaking to the networks paid staff but rather the people they interview who attend her events. She's a very big draw. I get Fox out of Rochester, NY. Last night they were interviewing some people who seem to want her to run for the Senate... in NY.

I think there's plenty of people defending her and not being paid.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:14 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Rekna called it: Think Progress Did an embezzlement scandal force Sarah Palin to resign?

I hope it's true.
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If i had a good husband and a precious young family and i was doing more than my part to help my country, giving all my time and energy to help "the people"...whether i was politically polished or not

...and "the people" in turn were spending all their time on their butts posting disgusting degrading photoshopped pictures of me on the internet like the one i just saw in the tfp of a nude palin with pasties in a sacreligious portrayal of being nailed to the cross...

...or the media, airing for ridicule, beauty queen pageant photos of me in a swimsuit during the presidential campaign and making a big deal of a $150,000 wardrobe while no one said a word about what michelle spent has spent so far or the whole outrageous bill for obama's campaign

...or scrutinizing my children's personal lives, digging into our past to find scandal, and minimizing the contributions and accomplishments i had made for america

...yes, i'd leave too...why didn't she leave sooner is my question

...what has become of America's decency?
Here's the thing, though: When you're a joke, you're a joke. And that lady's a joke. She'd have lost her re-election campaign anyway. If it hadn't been for one night of insanity in the McCain campaign's smoke-filled room, she'd have faded into obscurity as the political equivalent of a fish with a bicycle. But the moment she got the VP tap from McCain, she's went from "doggy paddling fairly reasonably" to "seriously out of her depth"--and did so on prime time TV.

You don't get to complain about "gotcha journalism" when you can't answer the question "what publications do you read?". Sneaky damn KATIE COURIC (the Miller Lite of network news, btw)--she should know that real American mavericks don't read!! How dare she demonstrate how stupid the VP nominee is!!
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:40 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Looking for attention and a movie of the week. She's had a taste of the real spotlight and is wet for more. She gets a lot more of that by quitting as governor than she will staying on as manager of some remote corner of the US.
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This has been out there since before she ran for VP. I doubt this has anything to do with her stepping down. Unless of course she knows they actually have her and her husband caught red handed. Even then I think she'd hire a good law firm and a PR team to spin it so she's yet again a victim. She's capable of denying anything. Did you read her e-mail exchange with Steve Schmidt? She complains she's getting heat because people accuse her husband of being in the AIP. Schmidt replies with "your husband WAS in the AIP, ignore it, don't make it an issue." She's comes back with something like "No, he just checked the wrong box on his voter form." Schmidt comes back with "our records show he was an active member for years, if that's wrong please correct." So her husband accidentally joined the party, then accidentally attended meetings for some 7 or 8 years. She herself made a video welcoming party members to their annual convention. But it was all a mistake and accidental. That's the political equivalence of "Honey, honey I didn't have an affair. I was walking down the street when I accidentally bumped into a lady, complete accident, we fell into a motel room and my penis accidentally slipped inside her... repeatedly. See, no affair."
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This is a very bad political move no matter which way you slice it. No one likes or votes for a quitter period end of story. She is done, you all can relax and find someone else to harass. No need to be skeered anymore.
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Old 07-04-2009, 06:20 AM   #30 (permalink)
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scout, in some ways I wish that your girl Palin will run for president in 2012. She would be very easy to defeat. And as far as us crazy-ass lefties "harassing" anybody, have you listened to Rush, or watched O'Reilly lately? Of course you have, but you just don't want to admit that the Republican party is bat-shit insane. Megga-Dittoes!
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Nobody's scared of her scout, but that's a very safe way for you to spin it for yourself.

She's a joke. We're laughing at her. it's funny, but not "ha ha" funny. More like sad funny.
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I still haven't figured out what it was about Sarah that scared the far left so shitless. Heck she makes a very bad political move and you all are still scared shitless of her.

This is a very bad political move no matter which way you slice it. No one likes or votes for a quitter period end of story. She is done, you all can relax and find someone else to harass. No need to be skeered anymore.
Could be a political "all in" move. She could spin this that the system in the US is so messed up (really who would disagree with that?) that she needs to get out and around the country to spread the agenda of the common working family. She could claim this is the best way for her to save the country from the direction it's currently headed.
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Could be a political "all in" move. She could spin this that the system in the US is so messed up (really who would disagree with that?) that she needs to get out and around the country to spread the agenda of the common working family. She could claim this is the best way for her to save the country from the direction it's currently headed.
In this day and age, nothing would surprise me.
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I don't listen to either one, sorry to disappoint. No need to listen to bigots. Both O'Reilly and Limbaugh represent the far right extreme and unfortunately they have hurt the conservative/republican cause more than they have ever helped. I usually take people at face value and as far as Palin is concerned I don't believe her to be presidential material, but then I don't believe Obama's experience as a "community organizer" uniquely qualified him to be president either lol. I believe the past election brought out what was perhaps the worst set of candidates in our history and just shows how low as a society we have sunk. Hopefully the next election will bring out a respectful candidate, whether it be Democrat or Republican. Since there is no doubt Obama will be the Democratic candidate that sorta leaves them out ...

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Could be a political "all in" move. She could spin this that the system in the US is so messed up (really who would disagree with that?) that she needs to get out and around the country to spread the agenda of the common working family. She could claim this is the best way for her to save the country from the direction it's currently headed.
That's kind of a stretch don't you think? I don't think Americans as a whole have much patience with quitters and quitting her post as governor certainly doesn't do her any good or gain her much respect in that regard. All her opponents will have to bring up is she abandoned her post for her own political gain and it's over. She has buried herself this time and I don't see anyway possible she can avoid this being political suicide.

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Nobody's scared of her scout, but that's a very safe way for you to spin it for yourself.

She's a joke. We're laughing at her. it's funny, but not "ha ha" funny. More like sad funny.
If she didn't scare you in some way you would simply ignore her. That's what people do to non issues, just ignore it and it will go away. The far left has went way way way way way out of the way to disgrace the lady so there is much more to it than simply making or poking fun of.
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I guess that means republicans have been shitting in their pants afraid of Hillary Clinton for almost 20 years.
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scout, sorry that I attacked you the way I did. Politics can be quite polarizing, especially now. Obama is not a god, he has let me down quite a bit. But McCain/Palin, at least in my opinion, would have been much worse. The fact that you don't like Rush and O'Reilly makes me quite happy. Those two are why I hate the GOP. I wish both parties could just work together to make America better. I know, I'm being naive, it's all about money.
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...or the media, airing for ridicule, beauty queen pageant photos of me in a swimsuit during the presidential campaign
and making a big deal of a $150,000 wardrobe while no one said a word about what michelle spent has spent so far or the whole outrageous bill for obama's campaign

...or scrutinizing my children's personal lives
Or another example would be accuse Hillery of hiding a childbirth by saying it was Chelsea's.

Come on now, the left went much further than the right ever did and you know it. I will admit back during the 90s when Hillery appointed herself or Bill appointed her to oversee the health care reform the Republicans sunk pretty low in their criticism of Hillery but never as low as it went whenever Palin was chosen as a vice presidential candidate.


So can anyone tell me what it is about Sarah Palin that skeers the shit out of the left? You can come off it now because she's done politically. You can "stick a fork in it", she's done.
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:12 AM   #38 (permalink)
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That's kind of a stretch don't you think? I don't think Americans as a whole have much patience with quitters and quitting her post as governor certainly doesn't do her any good or gain her much respect in that regard. All her opponents will have to bring up is she abandoned her post for her own political gain and it's over. She has buried herself this time and I don't see anyway possible she can avoid this being political suicide.
I honestly don't know what's a stretch with her, I think she's capable of just about anything. Her whole "pass the ball for victory" comment seems rather odd to me. I have no idea what her motives are and I'm just tossing out speculation like everyone else. If she came out tomorrow and said she decided the the best thing for Alaska was to part ways with the US I wouldn't be surprised by that either. One minute she's with the AIP movement and the next she's not.

I do think you're right and this was her falling on her sword so to speak. Just not convinced she's aware of that fact right now.
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:13 AM   #39 (permalink)
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scout, sorry that I attacked you the way I did. Politics can be quite polarizing, especially now. Obama is not a god, he has let me down quite a bit. But McCain/Palin, at least in my opinion, would have been much worse. The fact that you don't like Rush and O'Reilly makes me quite happy. Those two are why I hate the GOP. I wish both parties could just work together to make America better. I know, I'm being naive, it's all about money.
That's really all I want to my friend. Both sides to work together to make the USA stronger and better than before. Both sides of the aisle are needed for the system to work properly and a third party would make it even better. Unfortunately for everyone both parties have made it nearly impossible for a third party to gain a solid foothold.
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:15 AM   #40 (permalink)
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scout, sorry that I attacked you the way I did. Politics can be quite polarizing, especially now.
Thanks for posting this. Attacks are of benefit to no one and really do nothing for TFP as a whole. Thanks for admitting your error.

It would be nice if we could have disagreements without attacking each other.
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