Strange Famous

The council results - not the share of the vote but the actual councils lost are absolutely disasterous.

LOCAL ELECTION RESULTS


Party +/- Total
CON +191 1221
LD -13 423
LAB -210 144
OTH +25 148


This isnt final, but as we stand Labour is behind OTHERS (and these are only English councils, so no Welsh/Scots Nationalists in the equation)


6 ministers have walked out, the big guns who could have taken Brown out (Milliband, Darling, Johnson) have bottled it, made the decision that if they get rid of Brown they HAVE to go to the people - they cant give us two unelected PMs,,, and hanging on under a lame duck primeminister for 6 months might make the savaging at the General Election less brutal. My view is that six more months of Brown could mean Labour are out of power for a generation. If they take the bullet now maybe only two terms.

Its in the hands of the backbenchers now, but Brown will not go of his own accord - I genuinely think he believes he is not only the best man for the job, but the only one who can save the country.

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tisonlyi

He's a egotistical demagogue. Pretty much every politician in the current representitive systems are, especially in the highly centralised systems, like Britain...

"I am here to save you the vast majority of you!" is almost, but not quite as irksome a political position as "I am here to save you all from yourselves, and give what I get to my buddies!", but in the UKsian system they're both pretty insane.

The lot need to get gone for good.

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Strange Famous

Labour are between a rock and a hard place. If they sack Brown they MUST call a general election which will be a slaughter

But if they keep him another year, as he begins to show signs of mental breakdown ("Obama beach?")... it could be much worse in the end.

If they are in 4th place in the Euro results which come out today it may well be the final straw. If it isnt as bad as expected he maybe can cling on and ride out the storm (again) - but how long till the next disaster?

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"Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate,
for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing
hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain
without being uncovered."

The Gospel of Thomas

tisonlyi

I think the only option if they ditch brown is to call for a national unity govt to reform the political system and purge the infidels.

Of course, it'd just be theatre... But it's just possible that everyone might come aboard.

There are, certainly, too many problems all at once to launch straight into a 'business-as-usual' general election at the moment.

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"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill, 1937 --{ORLY?}--

Baraka_Guru

It looks like Europe has shifted right. Even BNP got two seats. WTF?

European elections pound Britain's Brown | csmonitor.com

I think Brown is doomed—the worst Labour result in 100 years.

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Strange Famous

15% for Labour. Second in Wales, second in Scotland, FIFTH in South West and South East.... this is very very bad.

Rumours on the blogs that Purnell will stand against Brown as a stalking horse candidate. The PLP meeting is going on now. I think anyone else would have walked under both the pressure and the overwhelming evidence of their own failure and weakness. But Brown is what I think is called a "Right Man"... he really believes he does know best.

The Labour Party must act quickly and without mercy. In my opinion they face being wipe out for a generation if they allow another year of this disasterous leader.

__________________
"Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate,
for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing
hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain
without being uncovered."

The Gospel of Thomas