A straight-talker answers questions. Palin and McCain do not. They are typical dodge and weavers.

Considering that McCain surrendered to his inevitable defeat in Michigan right after the debate, i'd have to say that the Moose Skinner's effect was negligible.

I thought the timing was odd on that. Do you think it was only a funding issue? Or did they think her debate performance was going to be so bad they decided to release this news at the same time, kind of overload the press and hide this little fact. Seems like if they start bailing on states the donations are going to start drying up rather quickly. No one wants to bet on a loosing horse.

Well, he is losing. I think his internals said what i've been saying about Michigan for a while: he had no chance. Given that he has a fight in Indiana (which is simply amazing), that he's now losing ground in Ohio, Virginia, NC, that Iowa (which went for Bush in '04) is out of reach... he had to go on the defensive. He simply had no choice.

There are rumours that he's about to give up in Ohio, which would mean that this one's pretty much over.

Very interesting. Haven't been watching the state by state match ups that close. I agree if he's cooked in Ohio he's cooked. Any particular place you're hearing these rumored Ohio towel toss?

Just went and took a glanced at Real Clear Politics and the polls there. McCain was up in Florida by over 6pts on 9/16 now he's down by 3pts. He can't win if he doesn't win Florida, IMO.

I don't think this financial crisis (if it is a crisis) has been good for McCain at all.

Tully -- it was someone involved in the campaign in Wisconsin. I don't really believe it, because if McCain folds in Ohio, he really has no chance -- even with Florida. He could even take MN & WI & Fla. (doubtful), yet still lose if he can't take Ohio. All Obama would have to do is seal the deal in New Mexico and Colorado, where he is doing pretty well.

On the other hand, that abandoning Ohio is even a rumour suggests that he is in deep shit.

Take a gander over at RCP and their polls. If Obama takes all the states he's got solid, leaning his way and even wins a state like Virginia then McCain is toast. That means Obama could lose Florida and Ohio and still get over the 270 mark.

This is some the Obama people have proved themselves at, where and how many votes specifically it takes to win. They caught Hilary flat footed and she never recovered, IMHO.

You're right. If Obama can hold on to the states he has, then he only needs to pick up 6 more electoral votes. These could come from any one of the seven toss-up states. Those are: Virginia, N. Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, or Colorado. (Nevada is very close, too, but it only has 5 electoral votes.)

McCain has to win all of those states, or win most of them and pry away an Obama state or two. Given Obama's funding advantage, that's going to be very difficult. I wouldn't call him toast quite yet, but it doesn't look good for him.

wow
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...54bc0adc5d.jpg

and i thought bush didn't do that well...i was wrong :)

paq: that can't be real, and how did it get leaked?

That was my thought too pig. People were releasing Bush Jr's IQ scores at 91. That turned out to be BS, I think this will be too.

However I still wonder why she went to so many colleges to get her degree.

if it is true, and people focus on it, it will play nicely into the liberal elitism angle.

Palin's IQ is 116. That puts her in the "bright" category.

i had a dream the other night from which i only remember a fragment.
i was standing at the end of a bowling alley watching a ball roll up the lane. it would rotate twice as a ball, then switch to sarah palin's head. sarah palin's head would rotate once and switch back into being a bowling ball. this happened several times.

like i said, i don't remember anything else directly. the score of the game seemed indifferent, and whatever else happened was such that it was equally plausible that i had launched the ball down the lane or that i just happened to occupy the viewpoint of someone else who had launched the ball down the lane.

the bowling ball/sarah palin's head did not seem particularly bright or not bright.
it just rolled along the wood of the lane, switching back and forth, over and over.

WikiAnswers - What was sarah palin's SAT score this is about the most reasonable assumption that can be made IF the pic in question isn't true.

the hawaiian university seems in line with the pic if you're going by 'first choices' but i've also read that the hawaiian university has no record of her ever attending....

the problem with IQ is it really doesn't tell us much. it says (at best) that some has 'x' capability. but if you're really bright, or even genius level based on IQ, and have no real interest in the world around you, it doesn't do you very much good.

i don't doubt that she's got at least some intelligence (how much can be argued), but she seems to have very little interest in the world around her outside of a very narrow area. if she were a scientist researching cancer cures or how to make drought resistant grain, taht'd be fine. but for a president or VP, that's not a good trait.