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Poppinjay · 09-24-2008, 07:49 AM

I like the elite. I'm very happy that most of what I've learned in life has been with the help of people who are smarter than me.

I like the best.

I did have a tough time coming over to Obama, mostly because of his supporters who seemed to take it as an insult that I might consider other options.

fnaqzna · 09-27-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Willravel

So what do you make of this fictional conversation?

This part sounds like something Aaron Sorkin could have written himself:

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GET ANGRIER! Call them liars, because that’s what they are. Sarah Palin didn’t say “thanks but no thanks” to the Bridge to Nowhere. She just said “Thanks.” You were raised by a single mother on food stamps — where does a guy with eight houses who was legacied into Annapolis get off calling you an elitist? And by the way, if you do nothing else, take that word back. Elite is a good word, it means well above average. I’d ask them what their problem is with excellence. While you’re at it, I want the word “patriot” back. McCain can say that the transcendent issue of our time is the spread of Islamic fanaticism or he can choose a running mate who doesn’t know the Bush doctrine from the Monroe Doctrine, but he can’t do both at the same time and call it patriotic. They have to lie — the truth isn’t their friend right now. Get angry. Mock them mercilessly; they’ve earned it. McCain decried agents of intolerance, then chose a running mate who had to ask if she was allowed to ban books from a public library. It’s not bad enough she thinks the planet Earth was created in six days 6,000 years ago complete with a man, a woman and a talking snake, she wants schools to teach the rest of our kids to deny geology, anthropology, archaeology and common sense too? It’s not bad enough she’s forcing her own daughter into a loveless marriage to a teenage hood, she wants the rest of us to guide our daughters in that direction too? It’s not enough that a woman shouldn’t have the right to choose, it should be the law of the land that she has to carry and deliver her rapist’s baby too? I don’t know whether or not Governor Palin has the tenacity of a pit bull, but I know for sure she’s got the qualifications of one. And you’re worried about seeming angry? You could eat their lunch, make them cry and tell their mamas about it and God himself would call it restrained. There are times when you are simply required to be impolite. There are times when condescension is called for!

Tully Mars · 09-27-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fnaqzna

This part sounds like something Aaron Sorkin could have written himself:

Yeah, it almost sounds like most of it was written by Sorkin. That could be why Dowd wrote:

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I called the “West Wing” creator Aaron Sorkin (yes, truly) to get a read-out of the meeting. This is what he wrote:

jorgelito · 09-27-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppinjay

I like the elite. I'm very happy that most of what I've learned in life has been with the help of people who are smarter than me.

I like the best.

I did have a tough time coming over to Obama, mostly because of his supporters who seemed to take it as an insult that I might consider other options.

Yeah, I had the same experience. Obama supporters are crazy! Only a matter of time before they turn violent.

dc_dux · 09-27-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito

Yeah, I had the same experience. Obama supporters are crazy! Only a matter of time before they turn violent.

Only a matter of time before they turn violent? wtf?

Which Obama supporters will turn violent?

According to most polls:

Women? ...he leads McCain w/women voters
Highly Educated? ... he leads McCain w/voters with college degree
Upper Middle Income? ....he leads with that demographic
25-40 year olds? ... he leads with that demographic
Wal-Mart shoppers? Nope, they support McCain

Ahhh...you must mean the young (18-25) supporters and low income black supporters.

How very open minded of you!

jorgelito · 09-28-2008, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dc_dux

Only a matter of time before they turn violent? wtf?

Which Obama supporters will turn violent?

According to most polls:

Women? ...he leads McCain w/women voters
Highly Educated? ... he leads McCain w/voters with college degree
Upper Middle Income? ....he leads with that demographic
25-40 year olds? ... he leads with that demographic
Wal-Mart shoppers? Nope, they support McCain

Ahhh...you must mean the young (18-25) supporters and low income black supporters.

How very open minded of you!

Liberals are highly violent. I have the scars to prove it.

Please, playing the race card is lame.

You are just proving how your elitist culture is so far removed from reality.

Open minded indeed. I'll ask you politely not to insult me. Next time I will report you.

Charlatan · 09-28-2008, 03:49 AM

Hold on folks. Let's not start throwing this sort of mud around.

There is a violent history in all forms of politics, across the whole spectrum. It has come from the fringes and it has come from the State. It rarely comes from the middle of the road (at least in the USA).

Before we start tossing around the, "who's go the more violent constituents" let's just take a moment to remember that.

Thanks.

jorgelito · 09-28-2008, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

Hold on folks. Let's not start throwing this sort of mud around.

There is a violent history in all forms of politics, across the whole spectrum. It has come from the fringes and it has come from the State. It rarely comes from the middle of the road (at least in the USA).

Before we start tossing around the, "who's go the more violent constituents" let's just take a moment to remember that.

Thanks.

Ok, will do. Agreed.

09-24-2008, 07:49 AM	#41 (permalink)
Poppinjay You had me at hello Location: DC/Coastal VA	I like the elite. I'm very happy that most of what I've learned in life has been with the help of people who are smarter than me. I like the best. I did have a tough time coming over to Obama, mostly because of his supporters who seemed to take it as an insult that I might consider other options. __________________ I think the Apocalypse is happening all around us. We go on eating desserts and watching TV. I know I do. I wish we were more capable of sustained passion and sustained resistance. We should be screaming and what we do is gossip. -Lydia Millet

09-28-2008, 03:49 AM	#47 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Hold on folks. Let's not start throwing this sort of mud around. There is a violent history in all forms of politics, across the whole spectrum. It has come from the fringes and it has come from the State. It rarely comes from the middle of the road (at least in the USA). Before we start tossing around the, "who's go the more violent constituents" let's just take a moment to remember that. Thanks. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke