"It's like a really bad Disney movie... "
 

Hmm. I don't normally pay much attention to what celebrities have to say about Presidential candidates during the election campaigns, and Matt Damon isn't a celebrity that I've cared much about. But he is soberly, bluntly making some observations and asking some questions that few other celebrities dare to make/ask. (No, I don't count the observations made and the questions asked on the Daily Show or on the Colbert Report, because the pointedness of those are blunted by bufoonery.)

EDIT: Hmm. The BBcode doesn't seem to be working, eventhough I followed the instructions given by Halx.

not on our end. it's on youtube's end.

as far as him saying something... wait.. he understands or has seen the actuary tables? really? 1 out of 3 chance? really?

Dude, I don't even need to see the actuary tables and understand them, to realize that McCain is as old as fuck, and that there's a good chance (whatever the actual odds might be) he won't survive his first term as President.

But even if it's only, say, a 1 in 20 chance: the consequences of that possibility becoming a reality, and thus our country – the world, even! – ending up with a President Palin, makes even those low odds, alarming.

I, too, want to know if Palin zealously believes that dinosaurs existed a mere 4,000 years ago.

even if it's a 1 in 20 chance, or a 1 in a 100, there are plenty of people who are doing jobs who are in high powered positions. Sumner Redstone comes to mind since he's 85 and still is involved int he day to day operations of one of the most prominent media companies on the planet.

While it's always a possibility, I'm not sold on the idea of the fear aspect of this. To me that's just stupidity in a glass.

This is just one more reason that Matt Damon is the man. He just asked the same question I ask of every political candidate.

It's good to know that an actor can actually not suck when giving political views, even if it is something that's on everybody's mind.

1 in 3? Is that Jason Bourne talking about his odds of being successful against the secret service?

McCain isn't that old. Hell, I would have a hard time with the non-stop campaigning and I'm not even 30. He will have the best medical care and he's healthier than a lot of people.

So, you're comparing the job of overseeing one of the world's most prominent media companies, to the job of being in control of the world's most powerful military?

Besides, my concern is not so much for the possibility of a President McCain, as it is for a President Palin.

Here's another thing I'd like to know about Palin: Does she sincerely, ardently believe in the Rapture? Because if she does, that's even worse than her believing dinosaurs existed a mere 4,000 years ago. Why? Because, the world doesn't want a U.S. President, in charge of the world's most powerful military, who believes God is going to miraculously teleport her and her fellow fundamentalist Christians away from the earth, and thus sparing them of the Battle of Armageddon and its aftermath.

I'll admit to being impressed that he is familiar with the actuarial table and understands it's significance to the election. McCain is 3 years away from the average lifespan of an American male, he does have some health problems, and he's applying for the most stressful job in the world. It matters.

I think it's clear which one wrote Good Will Hunting.

First of all it's total bullshit that McCain is the oldest man to ever run for president.... Ronald Reagan was born 4 days after my now 97 year old grandmother.... his b-day was 2/6/11 my grandmother's b-day is 2/2/11. That made him 73, in 1984 when he ran for his second term, and almost 74 when he was sworn in for that term. A year older than McCain.

Both my grandfather's, were extreme alcoholics and one lived to be 86 after suffering a perforated ulcer Easter weekend 1986 at the age of 74. They said he was dead then. He pulled out, lived 14 more years smoking Camel non filters and never drank again. The other lived to be 76 and had had a stroke at age 70. Neither had great insurance, especially compared to what a president has.

I believe McCain could be very sharp and healthy for quite some time, specially with the best medical care in the world. The last president to die in office was JFK. The last president to die of natural causes was FDR in his 4th term in 1945 and everyone knew he was going to die, that is why they chose Harry S Truman as his VP.

Today, people age differently, we are ale to live longer, be active and productive well into our 60's and 70's. My grandmother and her friends were active well into their 80's.

I take great umbrage and find it despicable this day and age for ANYONE to condemn a person based on age. To me, that is the same as passing judgment against someone because of their race, their religion, their sex, their sexual preference and so on. It is fucking disgusting and another reason for me to be truly disgusted and apathetic towards the Dem. Party I once loved.

The Dem Party I supported and loved fought against ALL prejudice and discrimination.....
Today, they use ageism the same way some use racism, sexism, homophobia and so on.

You don't like McCain's politics and platform, fine...... but don't you dare fucking use his age against him. That would be like someone using Obama's race against him, Hillary or Palin's sex against them, Lieberman's religion against him, Barney Frank's sexual orientation against him.

It's pathetic.

BTW.... as my father used to tell me and it is apparent when studying all he recent presidents... the president is a figurehead, the true power lies in whom he places in his cabinet and how well his advisers advise him. It is still the president's decision, but 99% of the time it is on the advice of his advisers and thorough research as to how he may react. I personally believe McCain will put in his cabinet far more qualified and better people than Obama.

No, I said it comes to mind. Again, I don't buy into hype and I don't buy into the fear mongering, from whomever is doing it, left, right, democrat, republican, green, libertarian.

Again, I'm more worried about what Mr. McCain/Obama will do as opposed to what the VP will do. While it is a possibility the focus of the prize is really who sits there first and foremost

I agree, focus on the person actually running for the office.

I don't hear as many people say "Obama will have a bullseye on him from some nutcase because of his race", which is just as much if not more a possibility than McCain dying in office.

VOTE FOR WHOM YOU BELIEVE WILL DO THE BEST JOB AND HAVE THE MOST QUALIFIED AND BEST PEOPLE IN THEIR FIELDS SURROUNDING THEM.... DON'T VOTE AGAINST SOMEONE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THEIR AGE, RACE, SEX, SEX ORIENTATION, RELIGION AND SO ON.

If we all do the above, then I truly believe the best candidate in this year's field will win. If we vote due to our prejudices and biased fears based on the individual and not his policies and platforms.... we will end up with the worst candidate.

Whoa. I'm not condemning or even discriminating against McCain because of his old age. I'm criticizing him because of who he chose as his running mate, and why he chose that particular person. And I'm considering the possibility and its consquences – unlikely though that possibility might be, weighed against how dire those consequences probably will be – of that running mate becoming the President of the United States.

actually you are because you've stated that he's more than likely going to die in office, and that she'll be the VP.

did you forget you typed up that highlighted part?

I think what you're refering to is the fact that if McCain won he'd be the oldest inaugurated president of the US. Technically, that's true.
He went to France?

Look, the current (2008) average life span of an American male is about 3 years off for McCain. Couple that with the fact that he'll be in the most stressful job in the world and he has a long history of medical problems including cancer... Let's please not pretend that he's the picture of health and vitality, that would be very dishonest.
You find anything despicable that could possibly benefit Obama.

Obama's race doesn't make him a lot more likely to cause him to be sick or die.

Well, we really don't know yet how good of a job McCain would do as President, should he be elected. But we're already getting a pretty good idea of what kind of people he would place in the field surrounding him, and perhaps even an idea of the sort of thought process he'd have choosing those people. Because, surely Palin isn't among the most qualified and best people for the job of Vice President. And so, we're left wondering why McCain even chose her, in the first place.

I can understand that and I wasn't directing it at you. I hear too many say "he's old and will die in office, do we want Palin?" My own mother said that yesterday to me.

I have a news flash for you, ANY president can die in office. Bush I could have died and we'd have had Quayle.... now that was a person to fear. Clinton could have died or been impeached and we'd have had Tipper as first lady and with that power God only knows what she would have done with PMRC and censorship. Look at Bush II with Cheney, that man scares any sane person in the US and unfortunately, he did run the country.... LOL bad example.... Obama has Biden, who I like a lot but the more I read into him and his sons the more I realize how corrupt he may be.

But I don't vote for the VP, never have or I would never have voted for Clinton. As it was in 2000, I voted for Nader because of a dislike for Gore.
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Yes, I do. I have nothing truly against anyone voting for Obama because they believe him to be he best candidate. I have issues with those voting for him solely because of his race or voting against him because of his race. Same as if Hilary ran and people voted for or against her because of her sex or Lieberman because of his religion and so on.

If you truly believe that Obama is the best candidate vote for him. I don't. I am not a great fan of McCain's but to me he is the better choice.

Saying "there's a good chance" is not the same as saying "the chance is more than likely". I repeat: I'm taking both the probability and the consequences into consideration.

If I say "there's a good chance you'll die of cancer if you smoke cigarettes," I don't mean it's more than likely you will die of cancer from smoking cigarettes; I mean there's a significant (even if small) chance you will die from it; and, considering the consquences - i.e. death - it makes smoking cigarettes not worth that chance.

My main concern with McCain dying isn't really with his age as it is with him having to have hunks of cancer chopped off his body every other week. The possibility of a candidate dying before his/her term is up and being replaced by a whack job is a real and legitimate concern.

Choosing a VP and your cabinet are 2 totally different animals. One chooses the running mate they believe will help them win votes. I firmly believe had McCain chosen anyone else, he would not have received the bump nor stood even a chance to win. JFK chose Johnson for this reason, neither could stand the other and it was well known, but Johnson on the ticket guaranteed Souhern votes and states needed to win the election.

Obama choosing Biden..... that is a puzzler, I have my theories on that but they are not for this thread.

McCain choosing Palin, helps him get the Conservative, Religious Right that may have sat out if he had chosen say Lieberman. It also helps get some women's votes.

But when the time comes, I see McCain pulling into his cabinet better qualified people than Obama. I truly believe McCain will surround himself not with cronies like Bush but be more independent with his choices like Clinton was.

McCain may make Lieberman Secretary of the Treasury or something. He may jump the aisle and find someone like a Mario Cuomo for secretary of the Interior or whatever. Those would e nice choices and I do think Lieberman will most definitely be in his cabinet somewhere... Cuomo not so much but one can dream.
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But if I believed that, trust me I would NEVER have voted Clinton/Gore. I vote for the head of the ticket.

Johnson did not like many of JFK's policies or platforms, but because he died in office and the nation started loving the man, Johnson pushed through a lot of those policies he didn't agree with.

I think Palin would do her best if something happened to McCain to keep his platform alive. She would want the 2012 election and she is not going to go out and destroy the nation.... especially with a Democratic Congress.

Biden on the other hand.... again I will save that for another thread. All I have to say here is Biden, IMHO has too much of an ego and would decide to run things his way.... which got him how many votes in the primaries?

Candidates often reward their top campaign advisers with cabinet appointments.

The two most likely McCain cabinet members mentioned are former Sen. Phil Gramm, who is his chief economic adviser, as Sec of Treasury...which would mean more supply side economics focused on tax breaks for top taxpayers and corporations.

And Randy Scheunamann, who is his top national security adviser, as his WH National Security Adviser....

Randy Scheunemann was the President of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, which was created by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), of which he is a board member. He was Trent Lott's National Security Aide and was an advisor to U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Iraq. He is 2008 U.S. presidential candidate John McCain's foreign-policy aide.

....more of the same neo-con foreign policy.

Cuomo in a McCan cabinet? Poor Mario would have nightmares tonight if he heard that suggestion!

Lieberman maybe, but I doubt you would see any other current senators in his cabinet....its hard to emphasize enough how many of his colleagues dislike the man personally, while campaiging for him publicly.

One can dream. Just like I'd like to see Sherrod Brown get a cabinet spot, not that he's all that qualified or would be the best man for the job.... but again one can dream.

In all honesty, I'd have loved to see Cuomo run in 2000, 2004 or this year. I have no doubt he would have won in 2000 or 2004 by landslide. This year unfortunately, as with McCain, his age would have become an issue.

On this we agree!

John F Kennedy died in office too. At the ripe old age of what, 45? 46?

Seriously, the age thing is getting old.

On to the issues!

IMO, potential cabinet members is an issue.

I would like to see both candidates lay out a list of potential names for the top positions.....State, Defense, Treasury, Attorney General, National Security Adviser.

That would be very interesting to see. I think it could definitely sway votes on both sides also. Maybe, someday along with naming their VP candidates will be asked to name whom their choices for cabinet offices would be. At least the big 5: State, Defense, Treasury, Attorney General and Interior.

That way we have some idea who we are getting in power.

Actually, I would be very interested in this too. Especially since McCain has expressed an interest in appointing Democrats and independents to his administration (qualified of course).

Any thoughts? Theories? DC, you have an inside track inside the Beltway. Any illuminations? What are the chances of a bipartisan or multipartisan cabinet for either candidate?

Any chance Colin Powell gets picked up by either side for SECDEF or SECSTATE? I can't really think of anyone else at the moment for any of the positions. Maybe Eric Shinseki for SECDEF or something. It would be poetic justice to have him back.

How about the Supreme Court for that matter? Will Ginsberg resign soon? Will there be any slots open for the next POTUS to appoint?

Well Stevens is 88, Ginsburg 75 and Scalia is 72. I think there a good chance in the next four years at least one appointment will be made.

McCain is old. Is it an issue? I wouldn't base my vote on his age. Hell he probably get better health care then 99% of the rest of the world. People made a big issue out of him not releasing his medical records. So? He seems to be trucking right along on the campaign trail. His moms in her 90's. People are living longer.

I wouldn't let his age influence my vote. I actually might have voted for McCain 4 years ago. He's changed on many of the issues he stood for back then. Now he's either just saying what he thinks the base of his party wants or he's a Bush mini me. Either way I'm not voting for the guy.

I don't disagree that the risk is greater than zero. I'm all about that in understanding choices and taking risks.

My point still stands, you're looking at this from an ageism point of view. It doesn't matter how you wrap it or lawyer it out, it is ageist.

Now you can rail against it even more to defend the position that you say you don't have, or just like your words are already doing so, admit that it is what it is, and move forward from it.

To point to pan's post, it's definitely a possibility that ANY sitting president can die in office for any reasons, but one generally votes the top of the ticket.

Whatever. :rolleyes:

Or I can start making absolute statements about you personally and your stance, as you are with me. But I choose neither one of those options. Instead, I'll simply no longer discuss the matter (with you, at least).

Palin leaves open option of war with Russia - Yahoo! News

This sounds crazy. I don't want to wage war against Russia. It can have Georgia if it wants, does she (or McCain/Obama) understand what the Russians have in terms of a military? True, we have enough defenses I'm not worried about a Russian invasion yet, ICBMs maybe, but not a conventional war on US soil. But, I doubt the US would win if we fought Russia on Russian soil.

OK, this sound a little better. Go with this answer.

read the frickin' interview. He posited as a premise for the qeustion that Georgia or Ukraine was admitted to NATO and THEN Russia invaded. As a NATO member we'd have some treaty obligations. Or do you think she should repudiate treaty obligations on national TV?

Sakes alive, read original docs, not the spin from the networks. They're trying to shock you - haven't you figured that out yet? Same old networks they have always been - you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig, you know.

I know, but she will have a problem in the debates if she answers like that. And there is no mention of diplomacy or working with our allies to put pressure on Russia. Economic sanctions is a pretty vague answer that probably wouldn't do very much to change their minds.

And while no one may be able to admit that we should back out of our obligations, I would hope they would really think about what will happen in the long term if we have to defend Georgia or another former soviet state against Russia. Is it really worth that much human life lost in war?

Why would you use Reagan as an example?
During his second term, Reagan was the first president ever to invoke the acting president clause of the 25th amendment during his cancer surgery. Later, his staff contemplated invoking the 25th amendment again because they thought he was becoming inept and inattentive. They thought he was losing his mind...now of course we know that he was suffering from the onset of Alzheimers.

If you want to compare McCain's age to Reagan's age during his 2nd term, I guess it's your choice but history undermines any argument that it's a good idea to put 70+ presidents in office.

smooth, the US isn't the first country to have people in their 70s or even 80s in office, run for office. The point isn't generalizable from the small data set you're considering. I agree that Reagan was showing signs of Alzheimer's setting in toward the end of his second term, but surely you know that aging is highly idiosyncratic. McCain's mother is 96 y.o. and still very vigorous. In fact, (under the heading of "hilarious stuff") I saw a posting somewhere (I forget where) with the title "who is older?" Underneath were two pictures - McCain's 96-y.o.-mother and Keith Richards. And McCain's mom looked much better. :lol:
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Oh, and ASU, if you read through the rest of her comments, she actually was careful not to commit to a military approach, only that it shouldn't be off the table. I'll grant you that she isn't fluid yet on foreign policy, and that she was to a large extent spitting back stuff she had memorized.

This isn't the first time this has come up. McCain's father and grandfather died at 71 and 61 respectively. Does that factor in? Maybe the men in his family jump 10 years each generation and McCain has until 81.... I dunno.

Baraka, I don't think it tells you anything necessarily about McCain (though it's suggestive), but it does remind you that just because someone got Alzheimer's at 68 doesn't mean everyone gets it at 68. These are individual things, and some people are fitter than others. I'm not a biologist or a doctor, and I'd certainly agree that older people have more medical issues than younger people, but it does not follow from that every person over 70 is at death's door. David ben-Gurion, for example, was active in politics until he was 82. Nelson Mandela was 77 when he was elected president of South Africa (and from what I understand he is still in good shape). The examples go on and on.

Yeah, I agree. Health issues didn't get Fidel Castro until he hit 82. And Robert Mugabe is 84.

I hate using Robert Mugabe as an example of anything other than a power-hungry terroristic racist psychopath.

But yeah, I understand what you're saying.

So, back to the OP, before everyone started on a tirade about age... Matt Damon is a trip.
He's not one I'd have suspected would open his mouth and be definitive about things...
I agree that it's nice to see celebrities questioning things like those of us in "real life" without screaming at each other.

DOES Palin believe that dinosaurs existed?

In a debate when running for governor, she said creationism should be taught alongside evolution...then later backtracked a bit:
She was a member of the Wasilla Assembly of God church for 20some years. The Assemblies of God's official position is that "even though the Bible is not primarily a book of science, it is as trustworthy in the area of science as when it speaks to any other subject."

Without any specific personal endorsements of teaching creationism (other than the one above, including the limited "retraction)...to hold her accountable for the positions of the church she attends would be the same as holding Obama accountable for the the positions of his church.

But yes, personally, I think she believes that dinosaurs lived along side Adam and Eve and she would feel right at home at the Creation Museum where she could "travel back 6,000 years to the dawn of creation" through Disney-like movies!

I didn't make a general argument for or against people in their 70s running for office. I merely questioned why pan would use Reagan's second term as evidence for not being concerned about a 73 year old president. Given the problems associated with Reagan's health during his second term, it undermines his position rather than supporting it.

If someone wanted to make a persuasive argument for not using mcCain's age and health problems against him, I'd suggest using one of the 70+ leaders from another country that you're referring to rather than Reagan's second term.

Damon's been pretty politically active for a long time. He and Robert De Niro were on Hardball with Chris Mathews about a year ago. When asked a question about Cheney he answered-

His writing partner and friend Ben Affleck is also active, even speaking of running for office at times.

Love the chatter coming out of Hollywood these days...

/cue Susan Sarandon

Pam Anderson

Some pretty insightful, non-offensive, extremely pompous, nor misdirected comparisons to a certain Christian Messiah. For someone who makes such an easy target, these people are really throwing some debris in the wheels on the Obama machine.

Sometimes the obvious truth just needs to be said....this way:

Great article, host.

Definitely.
Thanks for posting it.

Honestly... In the same breath... What makes Barack so qualified???

He is not Shrub?

That seems to be the test of the times these days... GW sucks as a President... Therefore Obama is qualified.

I'm voting for him because he's young and black.

That's certainly your right and no one can take that away from you. I wouldn't denigrate you on your selection or reasons; it's your choice and none of my business. I would hope all of us would respect each others' right to vote and choose whomever we wish for whatever reason.

Yeah, nice job finding an opinion piece that supports your opinion. Which out of the hundreds, perhaps thousands of opinionated blogs could anyone find something supporting their opinion?

I like Mojo_PeiPei's (perhaps more accurate) comment about Obama... so I'll use it.

And here I thought he was half-white and raised by white women.

ottopilot, you've chosen, along with more conservatives than I can possibly count....to marginalize yourself to a fringe POV that cannot be taken seriously...when you criticize the obvious....the "no bullshit", matter of fact opinions of respected and award winning, MAINSTREAM, Washington Post reporter, Dan Froomkin.

Like it or not...American history and Sarah Palin's own recent history and her biography, support what Froomkin said, and what I am posting....let us review where republican standards once were, and where they are today. Let us compare FDR Jr.'s bio, in 1963, and the "controversy" that republicans claimed made him unqualified for the lowly position, compared to the vice presidency....of undersecretary of commerce:

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... unworthy of the ad- produce it WASHINGTON Republican Sen Norris Cotton after grilling Franklin D Roosevelt Jr on his qualifications to undersecretary of ...

F.D.R. Jr. Faces Tough Quiz on New U.S. Post
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... to pepper Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr. with some tough questions about his background when he appears before the Senate Commerce Committee next week to be. ...



In 1963, republicans attacked FDR Jr., as "unqualified", even for appointment to a relatively minor office, after JFK appointed him as undersecretary of the commerce dept. because his law firm had accepted a fee for services from a Latin American dicator and FDR Jr., as a law partner, received some of that legal fee as income, he had lost his driver's license after five minor infractions, several not even related to his actual driving, and he was susequently arrested for driving while under suspension....oh yeah.....and he was involved in a business related tax payment dispute with the IRS over which year a payment and penalty were due....yet the grandfathers of the current republican generation declared FDR Jr. to be unqualified to hold even minor office.... even though the man was the son and namesake of the US president who led the country during the great depression and during WWII, and he himself was a wounded and highly decorated war hero, a Harvard grad and a law school grad and practicing attorney and three term US congressman.

When did republicans and other conservatives abandon the high ethical and competence standards of their grandfather's in favor of this....not only in favor of it, but quick to vigorously and enthusiastically defend it all? You don't want to be dismissed as hypocrites, and you want to be taken seriously in your arguments.....but....as Dan Froomkin chided political reporters....c'mon....what choice, when considering your reactions to Palin, her qualifications, and behavior and decisions taken in "troopergate".....do you actually leave, the rest of us?So....to sum it up.....from the collective, bizarro POV you have signed onto.... sudden dismissal of the former chief of police of the department in the state's largest city, from the post as chief of the state Department of Public Safety, suddenly and without further explanation.....NONE OFFERED TO THIS VERY DAY, by Gov. Palin, in favor of the immediate appointment, apparently unvetted or poorly vetted, of the chief of a police depatment of a rural town populated by less than 7,500 people.....yeah....that Change needed to get done, ASAP, didn't it? And it effing lasted less than two weeks!

Ottopilot, mojo, jorgelito, am I even assuming correctly that you want to be taken seriously here, in political discussions? There are degrees of respect, as far as voting decisions anyone takes. The degree of respect is earned, it doesn't just come automatically.

As Dan Froomkin and history make very clear, Palin is a poor, unqualified choice, even if some are willing to argue otherwise. Chief Monegan was clearly much more qualified to head state public safety, than Chief Kopp was....these are obvious conclusions, guys....and it isn't like it isn't pointed out to you, over and over.....you simply refuse to consider the obvious!

So what is your equally compelling argument FOR Obama? I'm going with "He's not a shrub."

You say lots of stuff when you say lots of stuff. Are you now in support of Obama? No friends at the daily KOS these days?

I detest Obana....I've made that obvious in recent posts. He's shown himself to be an enabler, instead of a challenger, along with Pelosi, Hoyer, Reed, et al....to what I object to most.....the one party in America, the "property party", with two right wings, democrat and republican..... the "coaltition" that passed "telecomm amnesty" and FISA "reform".....the group that wants to defend Israel as if it was the 51st US state, that proclaims any enemly of Israel to be an enemy of the US, the group that wants to increase the size of the US milifary, and the amount spent on that military, the group that declares preemptive use of military force to be an option, the group that is to the right of president Eisenhower......

....although they are not many, there are members at dailykos who agree with me about Obama....it was one of them who shared the Gore Vidal "property party" quote with me.... I was unfamiliar with it, and it was a revelation to read it...and it still is, every time....

Now again....why do you settle for so little and defend your opinion of what you settle for....when conservatives of your grandfather's day had such loftier and demanding, minimum standards, for qualification to even minor office in the US government?

Wow... my comment about the dailykos was just sarcasm because it fit the profile. I suppose some clichés are based in truth.

Since your assumptions appear to serve mostly as a springboard for your daily research or talking points, which opinion? How may I help you clear your desk?

.....Froomkin stated the obvious.....that Palin is an unqualified, "minor leaguer", and he chided the political press for providing stenographic services for the idiot pundits who claim Palin was a worthy pick as McCain's running mate.

You seem to support those who claim Palin was a qualified choice. You seem to disagree with Dan Froomkin's point that when something is so obvious.....Palin is unqualified to be US VP..... it does not matter how many say otherwise, if they cannot support their opinion.....you can't....and I posted the examples of your grandfathers' opposite standards.

If you defend the Palin pick, you have no standards.

What is the "wow" reaction to dailykos....why wouldn't I think you were serious? It's a political site open to public posting....like this one....?

Well I'm not black, but I like rap music and I usually like black people when I meet them in person. I don't really know anything about Obama's background or stance on any issues, but I figure I'd like him if I met him.

Ok I'll bite, why don't we compare Palin and Biden and see who is more qualified. If McCain is going to pick is cabinate positions after a 15 minute based on a gut feeling then i'm scared. Good leadership is done through good judgment which takes homework, something McCain doesn't seem willing to do.

Like how people said George Bush seems like a cool guy to have a beer with?

I like Obama because, as a Blame America First liberal, I appreciate the fact that his middle name is the same as the last name of Saddam Hussein and that if you replace a letter in his first name with another letter you can spell Osama.

I think I can safely say now that the quality of the discussion on this thread has now hit bottom and is digging.

Did someone say "Disney"?

Very funny and true. Thank you for sharing some humor with us. :thumbsup:

das ist ein wunderbar!

Wow, that was a stupid and entirely inaccurate video.

Huh, thought the right hated all things European. Oh well least it wasn't in French.

I know this happened a while ago, but I found this (fake) movie trailer today. When they put it like that it does seem like a movie Disney would make.

I wonder what would happen if the Dems used this as a campaign ad?

Funny, True, and proves Host's post in a way he never intended. The batshit crazy stuff posted in the news belongs to the Left much moreso than the right.

In the words of Ronald Reagan......"there you go again!"

Dont you guys on the right ever get tired of making the same baseless argument?