09-04-2008, 09:11 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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I saw the Rove/Kaine thing live, I was angry, but then I rmembered that Rove is an ass and doesn't know any other way to operate.
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09-04-2008, 09:25 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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That was great.
The statements made? Obviously true. It just shows that we're all capable of answering the same question differently, depending on circumstances. I guess we're all hypocrites at some time and to some extent. It is nice to see those videos to demonstrate this, though ...
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09-04-2008, 11:24 AM | #5 (permalink) |
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The Dailty Show never ceases to surprise me. Between fart jokes, they have brilliant running commentaries about the modern world. I remember someone once said, "A comedian is only as silly as the world." Actually, I think I said that.
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09-04-2008, 11:38 AM | #8 (permalink) | |
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09-10-2008, 06:28 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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I can't watch it-
"This video file is only available to users within the United States"
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09-10-2008, 07:03 AM | #10 (permalink) | |
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Howto watch ABC TV Streams outside the USA |
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09-10-2008, 07:26 AM | #11 (permalink) | |
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This might work, don't know. I'm fairly computer illiterate I'm always worried I'll run something like this then nothing else will work. My ability to resolve unforeseen issues is limited at best.
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09-10-2008, 02:28 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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Will Adobe/Macromedia whoever owns Flash stop updating it and standardize every stupid website on one. It's like I need one version for one website, a newer one for this website, a completely different companies movie player for a different site...To all the IT people at these sites, you aren't cool by using the latest and greatest player. Just make it work for everyone and let me download it because my internet connection doesn't work sometimes. [/threadjack] |
09-12-2008, 08:10 AM | #14 (permalink) | |
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Unbelievable. |
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09-12-2008, 08:13 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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Funny, yes...but I would be more concerned that the video demonstrates how poorly our intelligence agencies performed in assessing Iraq's capabilities after the first Gulf war and subsequent actions (international sanctions)....with a few exceptions, the most recent being (2001-2002) intel that Bush withheld from Congress and the American people.
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09-14-2008, 10:25 AM | #16 (permalink) | |
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HUMINT is a critical asset which takes many years to cultivate, but Jimmy Carter and Stansfield Turner, with their Halloween Massacre, practically dismantled our programs in favor of more electronic means. The 9/11 attack planning apparently began in 1995, thus adding to your assessment of intel failures during the post-Gulf War period. Since that period includes the entire Clinton-Gore era, Mencken appears to have little to "rejoice" about. |
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09-14-2008, 10:40 AM | #17 (permalink) | |
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In 1975 and 1976, the Church Committee published fourteen reports on the formation of U.S. intelligence agencies, their operations, and the alleged abuses of law and of power that they had committed, together with recommendations for reform, some of which were put in place.I think many Americans would be pleased to know that we stopped assassinating foreign leaders and operating in other illegal manners. Perhaps you dont agree and would prefer that our intel agencies operate unchecked. Sure you can blame Carter...but blame Reagan was well...The fact that Reagan "cut and ran" (terms the right likes to use) after the worst terrorist attack against US citizens to that point (200+ marines killed in barracks in Lebanon) and left the impression that the US would not respond to terrorist attacks might also have contributed to future attacks. And the fact is irrefutable that Bush withheld from Congress and the American people that there was dissenting intel re: Saddam's nuclear/bio capabilities.
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09-14-2008, 11:03 AM | #18 (permalink) | |
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I don't know about the Carter wannbe comment but he may have been right about this coming back to bite us. I think the group that did the bombing was Hezbollah, or at least a early version of them. Look how strong they are now.
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09-14-2008, 12:36 PM | #19 (permalink) | |
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09-14-2008, 01:07 PM | #20 (permalink) | |
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Yep, hindsights 20/20. At the time we were completely focused on the the USSR and the cold war. Much, if not all, of our intelligence efforts were focused in that direction. Considering all the signs it looks like we might have wanted to have more on the ground intel Op's going in the ME. I remember during the first Gulf war there being a lot of stories regarding how we had a mere handful of people who could even speak any of the local languages. The cold war had been over for years and we had a lot of folks able to speak Russian. Might have been smart for us to start learning these ME languages and cultures. But even after that we still didn't have a good understanding of the region. You'd think under Bush I and Clinton there would have been a huge push to engage and get better intel in this region. I don't think we did a very good job in this area.
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09-14-2008, 08:57 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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Hezbollah is a social movement and a political party and an army. It is extremely popular in Lebanon because it provides people with things they want and/or need, especially in underserved areas. They run schools, they run hospitals, they run for office, they kicked the Israeli army out of Lebanon. If you think of them as "terrorists", as do the neo-cons, you misunderstand their strength. To beat Hezbollah you have to give 80% of Lebanon something they'll like better -- or kill them.
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09-18-2008, 11:06 AM | #23 (permalink) |
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Nope, but if you try to tell others hand jobs are bad...
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09-18-2008, 07:54 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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Hezbollah is a terrorist organization.
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