matthew330

The first 10 or so minutes of McCain's acceptance speech last night was wasted waiting trying to weed these guys out. It was disruptive and obnoxious, and I was wishing I was standing next to that guy on the balcony who dropped that stupid ass banner "you can't win an occupation"....(oops, did I bump you that hard?).

Your protesters aren't protesting anything in particular, they're trying to shut people up who don't agree with them - that is their only goal. That's why it's juvenile disruption, NOT protestion (or protestation or something).
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Medusa, streets are already shut down to accommodate protesters. At some point you have to "herd" this assembly so the rest of the responsible world can carry on.

dc_dux

That sounds like something Bull Connor would have said about the march on Selma.

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Willravel

Before or after the obligatory liberal/conservative fisticuffs?
I'd be ecstatic if you brought your own sign, as long as it didn't hold any of the protest leadership liable for anything illegal. "I'm going to kill you" can get a protester in a lot of trouble. Oh, and as long as you don't smoke Newport Kings, I'll be fine. I can't stand those.

matthew330

So now these kids attacking police outside the RNC have not only been compared to Thoreau, they're actions are tantamount to the brave souls who marched from Selma to Montgomery.

Or maybe you were just using those that situation because it sounded real good against that portion of my post, which had nothing to do with it's meaning. Either way, welcome to liberalism!
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WILL - dude...."I'm going to kill you" I would never. Where have we met before?

Seriously....I was thinking of something simple like "PROTESTERS SUCK"

Willravel

If you have anything in common with most other people that ask that, the answer is "I dated your sister".

matthew330

My condolences, her "real" name is Brian.

jorgelito

Yeah there has been more reporting on this so far. Apparently there are two groups: "peaceful protesters" and the anarchists. Unfortunately, they got mixed up. When the anarchists were arrested, the other "peaceful protesters" actually cheered and applauded. Police did a good job here.

Also, let's be clear: this is NOT BECAUSE OF THE RNC. These things also happened at the DNC in Denver. It's a bunch of anarchists who were bent on causing trouble no matter what regardless of political party. The Minneapolis police actually consulted with the Denver police regarding their violence.
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I don't know about that. Do you think the protesters at the DNC would agree?
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I disagree. When Clinton came to LA a few years back (1999?), I was slammed to the pavement by the police when I took out the trash from my store on Westwood Boulevard when he came to town. I wasn't even protesting. I was just taking out the trash, The police never bothered to inform us that the president was going to pass by this way to UCLA. No warning, just a brutal slam to the pavement and a big cut on my chin.

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roachboy

what on earth makes you, jorgelito, or anyone else assume that these anarchists you wave about in the direction of without having bothered to check anything out about who they might be, were just "bent on causing trouble"? where the fuck does that comes from?

this is what "free speech zones" are also about: confining the area of police violence to a distant sector, away from the cameras, so that when information starts to surface about that violence, the police are in an advantageous public relations position. must work: folk in this thread have swallowed their memes.

you can get other information from any indymedia site. this information comes with it's own problems, but one thing is sure: if you look AT ALL and ANYTHING the idea that "those anarchists" were "just causing trouble" goes out the fucking window.

and even if it didn't, what is being justified is the suppression of political action.

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jorgelito

Roach, there are different sets of protesters. Some are peaceful and there are others that incite violence. The problem occurs when they comingle. The violent protesters actually disrupt the peaceful ones as well which is why they were grateful to the police when they removed them. It is unfortunate if peaceful protesters get caught up in violence and are treated roughly by police. That is unfortunate, it's actually happened to me. No one is suggesting (at least I'm not) that political speech should be suppressed. The issue that's being addressed is incitement of violence. I know if I am protesting, I would be very angry if hooligans were there too to incite violence. It damages and ruins the protest. If anything, the violent protesters are the ones suppressing others' rights political speech and protest.

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