08-31-2008, 07:25 AM | #242 (permalink) |
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McCain's choice was pretty wise, even though he has only met the woman twice in his life I guess.... I mean if you have seen the movie Idiocracy, you will realize the average IQ of the USA is falling and falling over the decades and Palin and Wasilla, Alaska represent that trend downward spiral. Hopefully Obama wins to undo all that Bush messed up.
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08-31-2008, 07:41 AM | #245 (permalink) | |
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AirNav: PAWS - Wasilla Airport -----Added 31/8/2008 at 11 : 46 : 48----- No Stevens isn't the GOP's Rev. Wright. That slot belongs to folks like John Hagee et el. Finding religious leaders who say crazy things is a little like shooting fish in a barrel.
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08-31-2008, 08:05 AM | #247 (permalink) | |
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This is the city where Obama was an "organizer." The caption says "America's largest ghetto, Chicago's South Side." Now that we've traded "gotchas," the question arises as to why the Obama faction resents Palin's selection so much. Republicans were happy that Obama selected an asshole like Bidet. If Palin is such a poor choice, shouldn't her opponents be overjoyed? The biggest epicenter of outrage MUST be the Clinton residence. If Obama gets elected, Hillary will not be the candidate in 2012. If McCain is elected, for one reason or another, he is very likely to be a one-term president. In all likelihood, Palin would then run, essentially as the incumbent. Hillary's biggest selling point, her gender, would be negated. I'd love to own the drywall company or lamp store nearest the Clinton residence about now. |
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08-31-2008, 08:50 AM | #248 (permalink) | |
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The McCain's on the Sunday morning talk show circuit today:
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08-31-2008, 08:55 AM | #249 (permalink) | |
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The first thing I noticed after Palin was announced was CNN reporting the Obama camp reporting on "how poor a choice Palin was." Is it perhaps they feel that more Clinton supporters will erode to McCain or the fact that they're afraid what a great strategy that pick was? I was reading an opinion piece on CNN and someone mentioned a good points about Palin. They said when she would debate Biden, Biden can be portrayed as a bully beating on a mother of five if he conducts his debates as he's known for. Is this fair? No, but it's going to happen.
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08-31-2008, 09:30 AM | #251 (permalink) | |
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08-31-2008, 09:31 AM | #252 (permalink) | |
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Personally I support Obama not because I think he's the answer to all our problems. Several of his ideas I disagree with, I simply disagree with fewer of his ideas then McCain's. I saw some talking head yesterday explaining why Obama will be so bad for the country. He basically went point by point down the list of things McCain, Bush and the GOP believe will help our economy, our energy situation and our standing in the world. He presented a case that Obama wants to change these policies and that would hurt the country. Well if the GOP's policies will help the country so much how come after eight years of near complete free run the nation is so screwed up? You can go back and look and the GOP has always talks about smaller government, less spending. Every time they've held power the spending goes up and government gets bigger. Every GOP admin, IMHO, has hit the middle class. Bush II's has just about given it a knock out blow. I listen and read Palin's positions and ideas and I can't find one I agree with. McCain's voted with Bush roughly 90% of the time. I think the Bush II administration is a complete and total failure. I'm not voting for a guy who's agreed with him 90% of the time. That's why I support Obama and would have supported any Dem over McCain. I signed up some time ago to donate a monthly amount to Obama. Basically when I moved to Mexico I lost a car payment. Back in April I decided to start sending him that amount. I wonder what they think when they get a monthly donation that ends with $_84.67?
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08-31-2008, 11:03 AM | #255 (permalink) |
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Not that I was going to vote for him, but his choice makes the outlook clearer.
1) He's old and this woman could be president in the snap of a finger. NOT COOL. 2) He nominates a no-name female with no federal political experience, and somehow thinks its going to buy Clinton voters? Like the only issue they voted on was that she was female? NOT COOL. Based on these two reasons alone, why should anyone even dare to trust the presidency with McCain?
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08-31-2008, 11:25 AM | #256 (permalink) |
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more generally, i would say that this is a good time to shut off your fucking television, stop relying on the circulation of lint that passes as "politics" on the 24/5 "news" channels, figure out what you think the present state of affairs in and with the united states is, read what the candidates are proposing to do or not do about them and then make an informed choice as to who to vote for.
what passes for politics in the states is painfully idiotic. and it is a depressing thought that we still have 3 months to go in the context of which discussion about issues and relative merits of candidates will in all probability drowned out by the lint issuing from the televisual fuckwit class. we don't need to be dominated: we do it to ourselves.
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08-31-2008, 11:34 AM | #257 (permalink) |
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Speaking of shutting off news channels, twitter is kind of interesting right now. Do a search for RNC on twitter and you can find frequently updated tweets about the awesome things the Minneapolis and St. Paul police department are doing right now to potential protestors.
For instance: Twitter / coldsnaplegal The great thing is that we (the local taxpayers) are paying them now to do this in the form of salary, and then we will be paying again when they lose all the civil rights abuse cases that will result from these incidents, and then we will continue to pay these folks to continue to "serve and protect" our peace. I know not all cops are bad, but when the good ones can't be bothered to differentiate themselves from the bad then I have a hard time not writing them all off as scumbags. |
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High Def Video of Palin, circa mid feb., 2008.... (move progress bar to mid of video) photographer posts that he had no idea she wad pregnant. She accompanies him on a long walk in drizzle with snow on ground...light coat, and high heeled boots while allegedly six months pregnant.... Tully, I can say with great regret, you have wasted your money on supporting Obama's candidacy. I wrote this open letter (excerpts) to Obama, after he "picked" Biden, last week: Quote:
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08-31-2008, 12:37 PM | #261 (permalink) |
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Do you Americans vote based on who the VP candidate is? That state of affairs doesn't really exist in many nations - parties are voted for, as are (to a large extent) party leaders. But who the Deputy Prime Minister is matters very little to nations like Canada, the UK, etc. Hell, I'm not sure I know who the Deputy PM is right now.
I know succession works a little differently in the US, but would even if Elvis was the running mate, would it really matter that much?
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08-31-2008, 12:56 PM | #264 (permalink) |
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tactics over principle in this case, comrades: i'd rather vote nader, but i *know* he cannot win---but mc-cain can win, and that prospect is far more loathsome than any other---so supporting obama in the sense of voting for him is easy. if his only position was that on fisa, i wouldn't--but it isn't. he may be a creepy clintonian centrist in many ways, but he's better than john mc-cain.
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08-31-2008, 02:52 PM | #269 (permalink) |
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I think you're missing the point of his post.
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08-31-2008, 03:23 PM | #270 (permalink) |
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It wouldn't be the first time.
But you Americans still take yourselves and your politics far too seriously. You make such issues out of blow jobs, pregnancies, and smoking pot - as if any of it matters. And so many of the things Host goes on about - house prices, the economy, worries about energy, international affairs ... you think you're the only nation with these worries? I'd say the UK is in virtually the same position, with the only difference being the UK doesn't have as far to fall as the US does.
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I got a blow job from a pregnant chick while high once. Trust me, it's great.
But seriously, the problem is that the US has the potential to start world war three because of our oil addiction and our governmental and corporate corruption that goes back for generations. I love Canada, I'm sure your military is formidable, but you guys really aren't going to start WW3. Neither is the UK, even with Blair 2: Let's Get this Party Started. |
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You think the Shrub would've decided to invade Iraq had not the majority of Americans been supportive of the hair-brained concept to begin with? The president doesn't take a dump without a positive opinion poll or three. Which leads me back to the point: While the way your succession works makes the VP a (potentially) important position, I'm not sure it's worth tearing your hair out over whether Palin has had 4 kids or 5.
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09-01-2008, 07:56 AM | #274 (permalink) | |
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Meh, I still say they kidnapped the down syndrome baby... from Madonna... who bought it on the down syndrome baby black market... which we all know is operated by space aliens.
Now can we go back to talking about where McCain and Palin stand on the issues?
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I'm guessing we can look forward to an onslaught of ads stating she was for the bridge before she was against it. Given she's on video, radio and in print making these comments I'd say this is a sign she is completely out of her element in national politics. I'm very surprised the McCain people would let her make these comments in her speech. BTW-several sources are saying the bridge was killed but she kept the money for it to be used on other Alaskan projects. She claimed she sent the money back to Washington. Any one know if that's true or is it another rumor?
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