Not changing the way I'm voting... but then again neither did the Obama pick.
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If my teenage daughter ever became pregnant, I would show her the love and support she deserved instead of teaching her to be ashamed and lie about it.
This photo was taken 6 weeks before the birth of baby Trig: All abuzz about Palin: Alaska News | adn.com Edit: Governor Sarah Polin's teenage daughter became pregnant, but instead of supporting her and teaching her there is no shame in the miracle of birth, she asked her to keep it a secret. Governor Polin lied about being pregnant and will raise her grandson as her own son in order to try and save her political career. Unfortunately, it was only a matter of time before this came out. I sincerely hope that her daughter is left alone by the press. |
Let's stop pretending your opinion or mine is the "right one" about who's inexperienced and who's not, and let's listen to the expert opinion of presidential historians and scholars.
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Of course what's fact any m ore is highly debatable. CNN was running the part of her speech from her announcement this morning where she states she was against the bridge to no where. They never mentioned she previously publicly supported it. |
The McCain camp was surprised by his decision and only had a matter of days to vet. They got the thing about her ex, but missed the biggy.
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I heard something about her brother-in-law and some firing scandal. Haven't heard about the Ex yet. Been reading about her ideas regarding energy policy. If you loved the way things have gone under Chenny you'll really like her. |
She tried to get her ex-husband fired. It's not the only time she's used her position to try and settle personal scores.
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Hmm, even the Daily Kos is claiming the pregnancy rumors are unfounded:
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This photograph seems pretty conclusive. 6 weeks before the baby was born. |
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I just don't think that photo's enough evidence to say one way or the other. Don't get me wrong, no way I'm voting for her or McCain. But I don't think that photo proves anything. |
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The girl is wearing a tight top, has a womb, as most women do, but surely doesn't look 7 months pregnant. Meanwhile, the VPILF is wearing a loose top and is hiding her stomach. The kid also apparently has Down syndrome? Much more common amongst older mothers. If you were contemplating hiding your kid's pregnancy, can't see that you'd line up for a family photograph unless she was wearing a full burqa. Not saying what you suggest is not possible, but if that's all the evidence, it's preciously thin. |
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Seems like a great sense of judgment.....involve her sixteen year old (2005) son in her sister's domestic war, and conduct her own questionable surveillance, too:
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Mods...2nd pic is of same folks in upper pic, upper pic links here: http://gov.state.ak.us/photos/pict0210.jpg Daughter Bristol , in photo allegedly from Feb., 2008, seems to have suddenly enlarged breasts.... and most photos available yesterday at the AK gov's site....like the top one in this post....are inaccessible now. Just sayin'.....I don't have a horse in this race....imo, both major candidates and their VP picks are of the same. right wing "property party"....hideous, disappointing choices intended to represent "change", but for the purpose of insuring that there will be almost no change in Amerika. |
Wow! A teenage girl's breast get larger, can't think of anyway that could happen other then her being pregnant.
Seriously none of these women look very pregnant to me. Maybe that'll be the next rumor- the family secretly kidnapped a down syndrome baby. |
Right now these are just rumors and should be treated as such. However, if Palin would like to quiet the rumors there is a very easy way. She would just need to take a paternity test and make the results available. That would be the quickest way to nip this in the butt before the rumor mill gets started.
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Democratic swift-boating, maybe?
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A girl has a pudge and enlarging breasts.... and this is news? Apparently you've never seen a girl who is 7 months pregnant. http://photos.ivillage.com/images/ph...04_695392D.jpg Does not equal http://tizona.files.wordpress.com/20...h_palin_02.jpg |
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There are SO many SO much more significant objections to this woman than this ridiculous baby-swap nonsense.
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She should be "attacked" on her supposed earmark reform credentials. She supported the federal pork funding for the "bridge to nowhere" when campaigning and only ended the project when Congress refused to provide additional funding. She should be "attacked" on her alleged abuse of power by firing the Police Commissioner who refused to fire her former brother-in-law in a bitter divorce dispute with her sister. These are policy issues or issues of professional integrity...neither one is rumor mongering . There is nothing to be gained by resorting to gutter politics like questioning the birth of her last child. -----Added 30/8/2008 at 09 : 31 : 03----- added: It is also fair to question her readiness for the job when the two top state Republican elected officials have questions: Quote:
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You all know that pictures of kids aren't allowed here. Regardless of how "newsworthy" you think they are, they have no place here. Links are fine but pictures aren't.
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Take a look at my picture. Who is holding the baby? I'm going to sell it to the tabloids now. I would hope if Sarah Palin wanted to cover it up, she would have at least gotten a pregnancy pillow to wear under her clothes for a few months. I doubt this is true though, and I don't care either way. |
FYI, the child was said to have been born prematurely, but I'll let that topic rest for now.
She's used her position to exact personal vendettas, even her own party has admitted that she has basically no experience, choosing her is clearly a cynical attempt to get Hillary supporters, she's sold out to oil companies, she flip-flopped on the "bridge to nowhere", she has used illegal mailers in her gubernatorial campaign, she is against mine safety, she left her town's economy in shambles, she supports Obama's energy plan (not that I mind, but Republicans may not like that), she didn't support McCain in the primaries (same), and she's against birth control. Seriously, they're trying to lose. |
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Palin has lowest voter confidence (for a VP) since Dan Quayle:
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Wow..... and we wonder why we get the likes of Bushes, Clintons, Kerrys, Obamas, McCains, as nominees/presidents.
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Jesus fucking Christ people, NOONE IN THIS FUCKING WORLD IS PERFECT. We all have skeletons and dirt. Do you want yours out? If her daughter had the baby, who cares, but this day and age where ANYTHING can be photoshopped and distorted to make something innocent look like dirt so another party can win on scandal is pathetic. It is one thing to judge a person by who they call their "Spiritual Leader" and the associates/friends they keep company with..... but to bring family into it crosses the line. Doesn't anyone here think that if Gov. Palin did not have the baby and that her daughter did, people would have already known? Hell, sounds like she has made some political enemies that are mighty powerful in Alaska, I'm sure one of them would have already jumped all over that shit. And for those salivating, believing this will hurt her....... it may have a reverse effect and have people feeling sorry for her for such a grotesque attack on a mother of a Down's syndrome baby. So be careful what trash you choose to want to use against the other side..... it may backfire in ways that you may not recover from. |
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Why don't I support her? When she ended her term as mayor, her town's economy was in shambles. She vocally opposes birth control, even among married couples. She is a creationist who believes that the bible should be in science classes. In an interview, she said that she doesn't know what a vice president does. There are plenty of perfectly rational reasons for me not to support her and that would be important if she were vice president. |
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Everything about that video terrifies me. Her, the interviewer, the answer, his response. Totally terrifying.
There is no humor in that response, and the full scope of what she says makes me sure that she is the absolute wrong person to be in that position. I think I should send this to my mom to help explain to her why I'm feeling disenfranchised and disillusioned by American politics. Maybe it will help her understand. |
I have a hard time believing that the McCain people would knowingly let her lie about the baby. Even if they made a hasty last minute decision to pick her for VP they must have known that the rumor about the baby being her daughter's was going on in Alaska for some time.
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Even if he did, as will said a few posts ago, what your parents do or think often hasn't the least bit to do with what you do or think.
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I went to a three room school east of Salem Or. The only kids I remember not attending the "Good News Club" were several kids whose families were Jehovah Witnesses. So basically one afternoon a week the school emptied and all the students attended church. Where, of course, we were told the earth was 6K old and created by God in six days etc... I think her father and her could easily hold the same beliefs on creationism. The fact he's a former science teacher might not mean anything in this case. |
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