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Jesus Pimp 06-26-2003 06:26 AM

Bush and Republicans exploiting 9/11?
 
I just read that George Bush and Republicans will be hold the national republican convention in NY on 9/11/04. Is this blatant exploitation or what?

Daval 06-26-2003 07:24 AM

Please substantiate your claim with a source - preferably posting the article here.

prb 06-26-2003 07:24 AM

"Blatant" is the appropriate word. Unless you want to use "shameless". Or "bare-assed obvious." These days apparently, being republican means never being embarassed.

sixate 06-26-2003 11:32 AM

Would you be happy if they held their convention in Mexico? http://www.boomspeed.com/sixate/icon_rolleyes.gif

The_Dude 06-26-2003 11:52 AM

pure exploitation.

NY is still going to dem's no matter wtf repub's try to do (just like good ol' CA, unless davis screws that up too)

i bet it's goin to be held in manhattan too, where they have a good view of ground zero.

and in the paper, there is going to be a picture w/ the people posing w/ ground zero in the background.

Conclamo Ludus 06-26-2003 11:54 AM

They beat the dems to it!

j8ear 06-26-2003 12:52 PM

Exactly right....they beat the Dems to it.

Politics is exactly that, exploiting the right opportunities. Whether it's Dems scaring everyone that Repubs want every child to be poorly educated, especially minorities, women, mentally retarded or whatever pc, oppressed segment of the population du jour the statistics can be skewed to demonstrate, because they are sick at throwing money at a failing enterprise? Or that the edlerly will be left to die in the streets poor and without dignity because they try to fix medicare. Or it could be the republicans exploiting recent terrorist events to convince everyone that 'unreasonable' (although it is no longer called unreasonable, instead kindly refered to as 'less restrictive') searches and seizures are neccesary, due process protections need to be reduced, or that anything they've done so far has actually prevented a daggone thing. It could also be the broad brushed stroke used to paint Dems as socialist welfare hungry anti-americans.

What ever floats your boat.

That's politics.

Remember the Paul-Wellstone-come-anti-Bush-rally-memorial? Sometimes you catch a tiger by the toe....sometimes the tiger catches you.

I'm not even sure this qualifies as exploitation though. Where else? Why not NYC? Lots of airports, plenty of convention facilities, in NEED of a good swift kick in the economic backside. and full of voters who could use a little exposure to some different ideas about how things should be. Did the Dems pass it up because they thought it was just 'too gratuitous, and shameful?' I seriously doubt it.

The_Dude 06-26-2003 02:00 PM

that paul wellstone was the stupidest thing the DNC did. ever. poor mondale!

and i dont think it's "beating" somebody to it. dem's are in a much more campaign state than GOP is right now and i dont think they wanted to exploit this.

watch this, dem's gonna make ads showing all this explotation that bush is doing.

1) this
2) the carrier visit
3) yet to come?

geep 06-26-2003 02:15 PM

The Dems should know all about exploitation. They have been exploiting their voter base for decades.

reconmike 06-26-2003 05:23 PM

There are many reasons as to why NYC got the bid.

Here is a link.

And I think it is awesome that they are going to bring all that money into an area that needs it, even if it is dem land.

MacGnG 06-26-2003 10:29 PM

DUH, politics... lol

seretogis 06-26-2003 10:57 PM

I heard that George W. Bush and the Republicans were actually the masterminds behind 9/11! It must be true!

Sparhawk 06-27-2003 04:35 AM

If Bush arrives in a flight suit, the blood vessel in my forehead will pop.

chavos 06-27-2003 04:40 AM

"that paul wellstone was the stupidest thing the DNC did. ever. poor mondale!"

I was there...and nobody, muchless the DNC planned that. Part of it was getting that many greiving liberals in one room. The other part was that Rick Kahn cracked up like a nut. We forgive him and all...but nobody is going to say that it wasn't his fault....

geep 06-27-2003 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chavos
I was there...and nobody, muchless the DNC planned that. Part of it was getting that many greiving liberals in one room. The other part was that Rick Kahn cracked up like a nut. We forgive him and all...but nobody is going to say that it wasn't his fault....
So what you're saying is that the Wellstone thing was spontaneous opportunism then? I think I would have had more respect for them if it WAS planned. The Dems really showed their true colors.

The_Dude 06-27-2003 07:06 AM

it wasnt planned to the extend that it happened.

they planned a memorial/funeral, it turned into a fund-raiser

Charlatan 06-27-2003 08:08 AM

The issue isn't that it is being held in NYC. That's great news. They can use the business.

The issue is the date of the convention and the perception that they will exploit the events of Sept. 11, 2001.

Nobody ever said politics weren't tasteless...

guthmund 06-27-2003 08:24 AM

If you were in charge of the Republican Party wouldn't you want to exploit Sept 11th for all it's worth?

Democrats would've done the same thing. It's hard not to take advantage of such a situation in the political world.

They were in office, they "handled" the situation. It comes as no surprise they were first in line to pat themselves on the back and to remind us of what good boys they are. :rolleyes:

Conclamo Ludus 06-27-2003 09:21 AM

Politics have always thrived on opportunism. Always will. Its not surprising and its certainly not underneath any political party to exploit a tragedy. Pick your favorite flavor of exploitation. Choose wisely :D

sportsrule101 07-09-2003 07:03 AM

exploitation ha, Reb. must finally be catching up to the Dem. on that. I love how certain canidates bring up people to tell how the canidated helped their lives. Everything political revolves around exploiting things and people.
Just you watch, the Dem. will have a tv spot run where the canidate talks to someone who lost all his money on stocks, and now needs to go on welfare, instead of going out and getting a job.

The_Dude 07-09-2003 09:19 AM

it doesnt matter, the dem's are going to win new york anyway.

btw, wasnt the republican convention held in CA last time and CA still went democrat?

lurkette 07-09-2003 09:30 AM

*sigh*

This is one of the saddest things I've ever heard. Even if I give politicians the benefit of the doubt and assume that they have only noble intentions at heart, they always do something like this to disappoint me.

This is the most tasteless exploitation I have ever heard of. True, 9/11 was an attack on our nation and "belongs" to all of us. But how disrespectful to the memories of the people who died (including the democrats who died!!!) to turn this date into a political rally. I believe shame is a concept that should be reintroduced into the political arena, and SHAME on them!

XXXs 07-09-2003 11:38 AM

Let's get the facts straight. The convention will not be on September 11th. It will be close to it. I see nothing wrong with this. September 11th was something this president dealt with, and in my opinion, dealt with quite well.

Here is a quote from an article on FoxNews.com

Quote:

WASHINGTON — The Secret Service (search) will oversee security at the Republican National Convention (search) in New York, which is scheduled for the week of Aug. 30, 2004, within days of the third anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Article

Phaenx 07-09-2003 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seretogis
I heard that George W. Bush and the Republicans were actually the masterminds behind 9/11! It must be true!
Really!? HAELP! TEH 1984 ORWELL IS GIONG TO GET US!!

GrumpyCoder 07-10-2003 12:21 PM

Political Exploitation
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geep
The Dems should know all about exploitation. They have been exploiting their voter base for decades.
Isn't that what all political entities do? I have not seen any politician turn away from the opportunity to exploit events or people...

AND YES, IT IS BLATANT EXPLOITATION. Of course the republicans have been exploiting their voter base for decades :)

mike059 07-11-2003 04:22 PM

I think that everyone is missing an important point. Politics is exploitation in action. It is inherent in our society because politics has become a seeries of media driven events. We seem to have been programed to react to 30 - 60 second sound bites and form opinions from these mini presentations. If we agree with the action, we are fine, if we disagree then the same action becomes an example of exploitation. Both sides do it, and as a society we eat this stuff up. Few people are willing to examine the facts and form an opinion; it is much easier for us to react to a sound bite or wait for an analyst to tell us what to think.

sportsrule101 07-15-2003 12:16 PM

yet we all still have the power of 1 vote.

Xell101 07-15-2003 06:27 PM

Gore being elected wouldn't have changed the fact politicians would have used this to their advantage. I bet somewhere some "my entire arguments fits onto an eight word sign" folk will protest the date.

Pennington 07-21-2003 06:31 PM

Dems, republicans, green, libertarian- they all exploit whatever they can in order to gain an advantage. Its just that sometimes it just becomes too obvious that they are playing on your heartstrings rather than on your intelect. All groups do it, iregardless of ideology. Its just a matter of who hides it better.

Zeld2.0 07-21-2003 07:55 PM

Exploitation is everywhere so this doesn't surprise me though that doesn't mean i think its great.

Exploitation only becomes known if someone gets caught for it and that almsot never happens.

Besides if you think the *other* side is exploiting more then your own group has expoited your mind to think they are.


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