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dksuddeth · 05-15-2008, 06:52 PM

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ratbastid · 05-15-2008, 07:08 PM

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Kiernicki testified Olofson told him the third position was for automatic firing, but it jammed, court records indicate. He also testified Olofson told him he had fired the weapon on the automatic setting at that same range without a problem, according to the records.

Doesn't sound like an accident to me. Besides, he was convicted by a jury, not by a judge.

I know that when all you've got is a hammer everything looks like a nail, but come on.

ubertuber · 05-15-2008, 07:11 PM

Yeah, somehow this issue just doesn't seem that important to me. There are other things going on in this world that would drive me to activism long before this court case.

dc_dux · 05-15-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dksuddeth

The ATF flat out lied to both the defense, the jury, and the judge. Rigged the 'tests' to force the rifle to malfunction ONE TIME, called it a machine gun, refused to let a defense witness examine the rifle, refused to disclose official documents about the manufacture of the rifle, lied and told the judge that he had no jurisdiction to see the documents because they contained tax info, and the judge fricking said 'ok, never mind then'.

I didnt see anything in the article that indicated the AFT agent lied, rigged the test, refused to let a defense witness examine the rife, refused to disclose official documents, etc....

dk..is there an official court transcript or is this just the ramblings on gun and militia movement blogs?

I did see in the article that records indicated that Olofson allegedly "had provided weapons and ammunition to so many people he couldn't keep track. A search of his home turned up books on converting rifles to fully automatic, and e-mail on his computer showed he bought M-16 parts" ....and that "Olofson had contact with vigilante groups and professed to be part of the sovereign movement, which doesn't acknowledge federal laws as applying to them"

Why should I be sickened that some anti-government vigilante militia guy got caught breaking the law?

seretogis · 05-15-2008, 09:35 PM

Hey, at least his wife, child, and dog weren't shot to death, right?

MuadDib · 05-15-2008, 11:33 PM

It's called recklessness. He had or should have had the knowledge that a machine gun is an automatic weapon. His acting in disregard of that information renders him liable. This isn't tyranny, this is common sense and justice.

ubertuber · 05-16-2008, 09:20 AM

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05-15-2008, 06:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
dksuddeth Junkie Location: bedford, tx	deleted deleted __________________ "no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything. You cannot conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." Last edited by dksuddeth; 05-16-2008 at 06:12 AM..

05-15-2008, 07:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
ubertuber spudly Location: Ellay	Yeah, somehow this issue just doesn't seem that important to me. There are other things going on in this world that would drive me to activism long before this court case. __________________ Cogito ergo spud -- I think, therefore I yam

05-15-2008, 09:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	Hey, at least his wife, child, and dog weren't shot to death, right? __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

05-15-2008, 11:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
MuadDib Psycho	It's called recklessness. He had or should have had the knowledge that a machine gun is an automatic weapon. His acting in disregard of that information renders him liable. This isn't tyranny, this is common sense and justice. __________________ "The courts that first rode the warhorse of virtual representation into battle on the res judicata front invested their steed with near-magical properties." ~27 F.3d 751

05-16-2008, 09:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
ubertuber spudly Location: Ellay	closed __________________ Cogito ergo spud -- I think, therefore I yam