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dksuddeth 05-15-2008 06:52 PM

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ratbastid 05-15-2008 07:08 PM

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Kiernicki testified Olofson told him the third position was for automatic firing, but it jammed, court records indicate. He also testified Olofson told him he had fired the weapon on the automatic setting at that same range without a problem, according to the records.

Doesn't sound like an accident to me. Besides, he was convicted by a jury, not by a judge.

I know that when all you've got is a hammer everything looks like a nail, but come on.

ubertuber 05-15-2008 07:11 PM

Yeah, somehow this issue just doesn't seem that important to me. There are other things going on in this world that would drive me to activism long before this court case.

dc_dux 05-15-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
The ATF flat out lied to both the defense, the jury, and the judge. Rigged the 'tests' to force the rifle to malfunction ONE TIME, called it a machine gun, refused to let a defense witness examine the rifle, refused to disclose official documents about the manufacture of the rifle, lied and told the judge that he had no jurisdiction to see the documents because they contained tax info, and the judge fricking said 'ok, never mind then'.

I didnt see anything in the article that indicated the AFT agent lied, rigged the test, refused to let a defense witness examine the rife, refused to disclose official documents, etc....

dk..is there an official court transcript or is this just the ramblings on gun and militia movement blogs?

I did see in the article that records indicated that Olofson allegedly "had provided weapons and ammunition to so many people he couldn't keep track. A search of his home turned up books on converting rifles to fully automatic, and e-mail on his computer showed he bought M-16 parts" ....and that "Olofson had contact with vigilante groups and professed to be part of the sovereign movement, which doesn't acknowledge federal laws as applying to them"

Why should I be sickened that some anti-government vigilante militia guy got caught breaking the law?

seretogis 05-15-2008 09:35 PM

Hey, at least his wife, child, and dog weren't shot to death, right?

MuadDib 05-15-2008 11:33 PM

It's called recklessness. He had or should have had the knowledge that a machine gun is an automatic weapon. His acting in disregard of that information renders him liable. This isn't tyranny, this is common sense and justice.

ubertuber 05-16-2008 09:20 AM

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