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Ustwo, you want to persuade me that the same administration that fucked the pooch so pathetically in NOLA has pulled off some kind of "miracle reversal" in Iraq?
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What a bargain, and Ustwo, you're a victim of the influence of Lincoln group military propaganda! At least the Pentagon hasn't paid a "good news" distribution service to shepherd me to my opinion of this disaster. Last edited by host; 02-17-2008 at 11:52 PM.. |
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The US military doesn't give accurate reports regarding Iraq. We've known about this for years. Believe what you want, but don't expect everyone else to take the military at it's word. We know better. |
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My sister's son is serving in the US military, near Baghdad. I am worried about his safety. It looks like it might be over for the US....time to pick up the pieces and go home. How many more will have to die to attempt to preserve the notion that Bush and Cheney are manly men?
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Where are the surge kool-ade stand attendants today....I am thirs-----tee...for some common sense.
If there are US families who have suffered the loss of life or limb of a loved one sacraficed in Bush's surge, this is what Bush says they suffered or died for: Quote:
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Hmmm lonely thread....
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Watch CNBC interview of John Cusack about his new movie "WAR INC." http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=702430483&play=1 What do we need a movie like that for, John Cusack? You're just a liberal Hollywood actor trying to make trouble for The Bushes and Cheney: Bush's brother Neil, his daddy, his uncle Bucky, Cheney and Giuliani have all made millions from the war...what's wrong with that? http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...0&postcount=22 Quote:
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04-17-2008, 02:43 PM | #48 (permalink) | |
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An article (6 pages, but worth reading) in the latest issue of Foreign Affairs magazine provides what IMO is the best analysis of "The Price of the Surge" I have read:
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Did they even consider the possibility of this outcome or are they so blinded by "victory at any cost" that they dont give a shit? I'm looking forward to the day when we have a Pres who understands and values "a comprehensive diplomatic strategy" as a component of US foreign policy...and not just in Iraq.
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04-18-2008, 11:27 PM | #49 (permalink) |
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Does anybody know how the "4000" are counted? It doesn't include the majority of US soldiers that died because of the war in Iraq. Maybe somebody can post the 4000 names and see if we can't add another few thousand to it.
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If you think the war in Iraq is wrong, 4000 dead American soldiers is outrageous enough, leaving aside all the Iraqi casualties. If you think the war is a just one, then you probably consider the casualties a necessary outcome of it. |
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04-22-2008, 05:50 PM | #53 (permalink) | |
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04-22-2008, 08:09 PM | #54 (permalink) |
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On the suicide thing. Staggering numbers. I'm not sure how many of these soldier were proud to serve their country and "help" Iraq.
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In February Pelosi said Iraq was a failure, after her surprise visit this week she says the following:
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What's up here? Is she changing her tone? Is it just political b.s.? Is she really "welcoming" of progress, "assured" and "hopeful" after meeting with Iraqi government officials?
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05-20-2008, 11:51 AM | #57 (permalink) |
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It found that veterans were more than twice as likely to commit suicide in 2005 than non-vets. (Veterans committed suicide at the rate of between 18.7 to 20.8 per 100,000, compared to other Americans, who did so at the rate of 8.9 per 100,000.)
One age group stood out. Veterans aged 20 through 24, those who have served during the war on terror. They had the highest suicide rate among all veterans, estimated between two and four times higher than civilians the same age. (The suicide rate for non-veterans is 8.3 per 100,000, while the rate for veterans was found to be between 22.9 and 31.9 per 100,000.) http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n3496471.shtml
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