mixedmedia

Pffftt...there's no accounting for taste.

I don't think she's attractive at all. But then again I don't have terminator vision.

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Baraka_Guru

Neither do I. She kind of looks like a marionette to me. But, man, oh, man, that hatespeak is hawt!

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mixedmedia

And I thought I was kinky.

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Baraka_Guru

You have no idea....

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Plan9

Well, MM... after you're done draining I_L of all his money... you have Baraka, The Goo-Ru... and his weakness for hatespeak.

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percy

Good point. Anne Coulter is just stupid but I wondered if the commentator was offended by her saying Jews need to be perfected as in 1; they aren't perfect yet and need more work to be perfect or 2; they are perfect and how dare you say Jews aren't perfect!!

Guess we will have to guess

MrTia

we were talking about it and decided ann coulter can only save her career by starting a jew-to-christian makeover reality show. in the beginning she’s confronted with a deeply flawed jew, complete with yarmaluke and menorah and all that stuff, and at the end the person has been transformed into a wonderful, perfect christian, complete with big huge cross around his or her neck and an unwillingness to have sex outside the missionary position (unless he or she is in a public restroom in minnesota). we were trying to figure out what to call it, someone suggested “cold bitch for the jew guy” but i’m leaning toward “ann coulter’s New Jew Revue.” the theme song would totally write itself, yanno?

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pan6467

That video shows true closed mindedness on Coulter's part. The host gave her every opportunity to explain herself and she kept getting deeper.

She's a spokesperson for the GOP? For the Religious Right? Wow. What's truly sad is the fact that the Christians who support her believe all this bunk.

The host had a point, she's as bad as and every bit as vile as the leader of Iran saying Israel and jews need to be eradicated.

Since she pretty much gave the Nazi platform it's not Godwinning to say she may as well have a Swastika tatooed on her forehead and carry pictures of Hitler to worship.

Pathetic and sad are the people who defend her and take her seriously.

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loquitur

I wish people would just ignore Anne Coulter. Haven't you guys figured out yet that she says these things just to get attention, and that she turns up the volume in time with the release of her latest book? I don't think she even believes half the stuff she says. She is just a shrewd business woman, exploiting her opportunities. Ignore her and she'll go away.

mixedmedia

Oh, but surely, loquitor, you would approve of the nude book tour.

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Elphaba

There has been questions regarding the genitalia.

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loquitur

Hey, it's not like she doesn't show skin in the photos she has taken, so why not a nude book tour? A bit scrawny, maybe, but that's still a great way to get attention. Maybe she'll get some converts that way.
Questions? You mean, about whether it's serrated or barbed?<br><br>

tecoyah

....I would just assume....slam my dick in a door.

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Grasshopper Green

I'm with loquitor. I gave up being offended after I realized she's not worth my time...

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Plan9

I usually slam the nuts, myself.

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Sun Tzu

She cant even admit she is wrong

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Charlatan

This is exactly right.

I am so glad that the only exposure I get to this horsey woman is on TFP.

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kutulu

Now you people think she's gone too far? This is exactly the problem with us here. She's been running her mouth saying the same shit about Muslims since 9/11. Were you so pissed at her back them?

We can't possibly talk shit about the Jews but fuck those ragheads. Bunch o' turrists.

mixedmedia

No, I think she went too far the day she first opened her mouth. I mean, basically she's had the same thing to say about EVERYONE that is not a customer of hers, including lib'rls, such as myself.

I think it's a little unfair to suppose that we don't care what she says about Muslims.

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loquitur

Actually, MM, it's ok not to care about what people whom you don't respect say about any topic.

I'm a big fan of civility, and of the proposition that people of good will can disagree without making judgments about the moral worth of the other. This might be a moral flaw of mine, but I doubt it.

FoolThemAll

1. It's already been said, in this very thread, but there is a very LARGE difference between a desire to eradicate and a desire to convert. They aren't even remotely close.

2. Nah, it is Godwinning to pull out the Nazi label here. It's a textbook case of why Godwin's Law exists: to highlight ridiculous comparisons to genocidal fascists.

3. I don't take her seriously, never have. I do defend her in this case because it doesn't strike me as offensive or even unordinary that a Christian would consider Christianity the One True Religion. MOST religions are like that, Judaism included. She thinks Jews are in the wrong religion, so friggin' what?

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kutulu

Maybe the only way to win against Ann is to say nothing. We need to quit acknowledging that she even exists any more. I'm ready to do it now.

Datalife2

She's hot!!

I'm wondering if you all are jews here for hating her?

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roachboy

well, at least coulter's political functions are now obvious, in addition to her idiocy...she operated as a transmission belt, part of the ideological system that enabled evangelical protestants and other forms of contemporary conservatism to imagine that they had things in common. she was a translation machine, cross-voicing political elements important to the evangelicals as aspects of a wider conservative worldview.

if this holds, then maybe a way to look at this otherwise tiresome exercise in rightwing bottomfeeder politics is to see coulter today as a symptom: once the political coalition that enabled her to appear functional (common sense to some, i fear) came unravelled, she wanders, clueless and flatfooted, back to the political motherland and straight into one of the oldest internal fights in the judeo-christian tradition, this tedious scrap over who gets to understand themselves as "chosen"...

that she is a bigot is clear. that this bigotry is not particular to ann coulter, but reflective of a bigger political problem in the states, a condition of possiblity for the bush regime, for the "war on terror" and so forth is a far bigger problem.
that she has nothing to say about islam that is worth anything at all is no surprise--if i understand her function correctly, she is neither of or speaking to a group that knows shit about islam, and it seems to me that were she to know something about it, it'd just gum up communication between her and such demographic as she still might have.

she also reproduces pretty accurate identity politics american conservative-style---her "descriptions" of the world are totally unhinged from actually existing material reality, but they do make sense if the goal is not to describe the world but rather to reinforce a sense of detached spectatorship with respect to the world, one which processes political action in more or less messianic terms, one which disapproves of everything that is not exactly like oneself. so she speaks to conservative narcissism, the kind of belief that would lead you to believe that the Real Problem Out There is that not everyone thinks as you do, not everyone understands that it is gods will to be totally passive in areas directly related to economics, passive with reference to infrastructure questions, unable to think in structural or even in coherently historical terms...what matters is that you are one of Us.


(you're one of us. kinda like the film "freaks" that way, aint it?)


and that identity is most active when it has a clear Enemy or Other against which to articulate itself.
and that a proper evangelical protestant identity understands itself as engaged in spiritual warfare with the forces of Evil--which includes everyone and everything not identical to evangelical protestants themselves, everyone and everything that is not slotted into their incoherent views of a properly functioning theocratic world.

the wonder is not that she isnt taken seriously now---the wonder is that she ever was taken seriously by anyone, anywhere, ever.
but i guess a cultural reputation can be purchased, if you serve interests directly or indirectly with deep enough pockets to front the requisite monies that are required to get your face and tedious message out there.

major cultural markets are all pay-to-play affairs.
repetition legitimates anything or anyone, even ann fucking coulter.
for a while at least.

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Ustwo

Anyone who can tie the liberal panties in a bunch like Anne does is my heroine. Shes using everyone here, from the people who buy her books, to the liberal talk shows who give her free publicity.

I'd also do her, but mostly because I have a thing for skinny blonde chicks with long hair. Then I'd perfect her to atheism, and make uber conservative atheist babies.

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JohnBua

Hey, at least she is not strapping bombs on her to kill people. All she does is think that another religion is wrong. So what?

mixedmedia

Heh.

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Bill O'Rights

Did anyone else just feel the earth shudder on it's axis?

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Hektore

Well that gives a whole new meaning to the proverbial stick in the butt.

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loquitur

I still think she is actually yanking everyone's chain and that this is all a very lucrative act. It's way too calculated in both timing and content not to be. Plus, there is nothing in her background indicating that she is off the deep end.

Would I do her? Probably. She's formidable enough to be really interesting. Even though she's too scrawny.

Paq

I would do every vile thing to her that i ever dreamed of, quite honestly. I'm talking that type of raunchy sex where you can't scrub the shit out of your head. yea, that. and then i'd do it again.

Anyway, i showed this to my current lady....and her response: " Yep. I would love to see her and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sit down and hash it out. Can you see it? She'd be all flirty, flipping her hair, both in agreement that jews are bad, there are no gays in Iran, there was no holocaust. Then, suddenly, ol' Mahmoud says, yeah, that's all great and such, too bad we can't be friends you dirty sub-human woman infidel, go home and make me some dinner, and cover ya damn head. I think he may be the only man alive who could put her in her place."

and then it dawned on me..there is no godwin for ahmadinejad.


And yes, i spouted the hatred of her ideas back during 9/11 when she was after 'towelheads" and muslims and everything else. Yes, she has the right to her thoughts, but she does not open it up to discourse. She basically spouts shit as if it were sprayed on a bridge overpass...it's there, people see it, and there is no way to respond meaningfully to the author. I'm 99% sure she just plays a part, but i'm also 100% sure there are people who agree with her and she can rally a base of people like few others. I do, however, think this hurt her image, even among the most conservatives, ustwo excepted.

I mean, why not just say, "blacks should be bleached white...just perfect them."..it's the same argument, stupid, hateful, and intolerant.

Anyway.

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Ustwo

I think there is an echo in here, might want to re-edit that one paq

And really no its not the same as saying blacks should be bleached white, that shows a sort of ignorance of your own.

Really what shes showing is what ANY true believer must feel about their religion, unless its one of those amalgamated silly ones.

A Christian by default must think the Jews are wrong, and in fact hope they find salvation with Jesus Christ before their deaths lest they not enter the kingdom of heaven. Likewise a Muslim must think a Christian is wrong. A Jew must think they both are wrong, otherwise they would not remain a Jew.

Its the very nature of these religions, they all can't be right. Either Jesus was the son of God or not, there isn't a grey area there.

I think what people find abhorrent in something like this is you are not suppose to TALK about such things. We are suppose to pretend we all can be right, when in fact some of us would have to be completely, and tragically wrong.

There is nothing stupid, or hateful really in that line of thinking unless you are not a believer yourself. Its the end result of the situation.

In fact think about this.

If you were a Christian, believed in Jesus Christ and all that jazz, and you had a good friend who was a Jew, wouldn't it be your DUTY to try to convert him, to save his soul from the fire that awaits? You would be stupid and hateful if you didn't try! Hell you might even be sinning for not trying to save his soul, I'm not sure how all that works.

One thing interesting is I think I heard something recently where some major Christian group, and I don't recall which one,( I don't really pay attention to this stuff though my gut tells me it was Catholic, though that seems odd) said that you can enter heaven, even as a non-Christian as long as your life was led with Christian ideals even if you didn't 'know' Jesus. Thats obviously a huge change and its not been Christian thought ever, but it shows just how big an issue this is.

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FoolThemAll

I think Kierkegaard had some similar thought on the subject. Something like "a virtuous native from a land untouched by the Bible can be more of a Christian than a 'Sunday School' Christian who grew up on the Bible". Perhaps someone with more than a passing knowledge of Kierkegaard can correct or confirm this.

One tidbit I remember from an intro-level sociology class: the more steadfast, "choose us or you're on the wrong path, follow our dogma or you're going to hell" religions have a better rate of survival than the more open "we're all God's children" religions. Because if my homosexual abortionist wiccan vegan harry potter tom cruise dark tower style of worship is just as good as yours, then my stay-at-home-and-watch-the-game style of worship is also just as good as yours. Some people only go to boring services with monotone sermons and jesus-every-other-line lyrics when hell is on the line.

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GonadWarrior

You have very aptly exposed much rampant hypocrisy. "I'm for free speech, as long as I agree with it."

The hatred of Ann Coulter is stirred up by the way she deflates her opponents' arguments, along with their massive egos.

Albeit with a great deal of hyperbole.

filtherton

When you can't perceive nuance, everything is hypocritical.

For instance, right here you are being critical of people for being critical. In a world where everything is in black and white, you are a hypocrite. Even more so for hypocritically calling out others for their hypocrisy.

Charlatan

Clearly you are missing the point.

Nobody here has said she cannot say what she is saying. Nobody here has even suggested removing her right to free speech.

What people are saying is that she is a loon. That her opinion is disgusting, etc.

Big difference.

By all means. Feel free to espouse any idiotic position you wish. Stand at the top of the highest mountain and profess your most ignorant/brilliant thoughts.

Just don't expect people to agree or like what you have to say.

In other words... I see no hypocrisy.

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mixedmedia

Gonad, I guess it's totally lost on you that Ann Coulter makes a career out of disagreeing with people. Thereby, according to your logic, suppressing our right to free speech. And furthermore, deflating Ms. Coulter's smelly, bloated arguments...not to mention her massive ego.

Gee willikers, where will this madness end!

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albania

QFT. Exactly what I was thinking. I was going to add my two cents, but you know I don't think I want to see this turn into a Gonad bashing.

mixedmedia

Yes, wouldn't want to bash any gonads. No need to get out of hand.

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