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Originally Posted by aceventura3
.....Why ignore the reference to Clinton in the OP and other historical claims of executive privilege?....
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.....ace, considering the supporting`material in my last post....detailing the Clinton administration's co-operation with congressional committee requests for witness appearances, aren't reconmike and you doing the "ignoring"? Can you point to anything else on this thread that comes close to this?:
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Old 03-22-2007
The "Clinton did it" defense......
Perhaps the more telling comparison is the difference between the number of times Clinton aides actually DID testify, under oath, and the number of times Bush aids have done so. According to the Congressional Research Service, under President Clinton, 31 of his top aides testified on 47 different occasions. The aides who testified included some of Clinton’s closest advisors:...
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Was the substance of my last post, the above article, ignored because it was impossible to counter?
ace...(and reconmike....) I have posted the following in chronological order to make it easier for you to understand my presentation. Both of your recent posts reinforce my wondering whether it is time to divide the U.S. into two separate countries. My idea of a discussion, if one were actually to take place on this thread, and on this forum, and in this country, would be for ace, or reconmike, to post rebuttal opinions from attorneys or judges who support the white house, and Meier's decision to ignore subpoenas from congressional committees and to refuse to provide privilege logs, or...any specific support for claims of executive privilege. Citations of court decisions, even if not to the extent that democrats have provided, countering what democrats have provided, and that I have posted here, would be a refreshing turn away from the direction this thread has taken.
I extend to you the COURTESY....again and again....of sharing with you, the information (WITH LINKS !!!) that shaped my opinions and conclusions, and prompted me to post about them....
<b>Are you responding, in kind?</b>
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http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=538
Chairmen Leahy and Conyers Write to Fielding
June 29th, 2007 by Jesse Lee
Today, House and Senate Judiciary Chairmen John Conyers and Patrick Leahy sent a letter to White House Counsel Fred Fielding, responding to the President’s executive privilege assertion over documents relating to the US Attorney investigation. The two reiterated their concern that the president’s assertion was unprecedented and over-reaching. They also demanded the White House “immediately provide us with the specific bases for your claims regarding each document withheld via a privilege log…and a copy of any explicit determination by the President with respect to the assertion of privilege.”
See Chairman Conyers’ statement yesterday >>
See the initial announcement of the subpoeanas >>
The full text of the letter:
June 29, 2007
Fred Fielding, Esq.
Counsel to the President
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20500
Dear Mr. Fielding:
....... Moreover, your blanket assertion of executive privilege belies any good faith attempt to determine where privilege truly does and does not apply. A serious assertion of privilege would include an effort to demonstrate to the Committees which documents, and which parts of those documents, are covered by any privilege that may apply.
Indeed, the subpoenas themselves specifically stated that for each document withheld, you should provide a description of the nature, source, subject matter, and date of the document; the name and address of each recipient of an original or copy of the document and the date received; the name and address of each additional person to whom any of the contents of the document were disclosed along with the date and manner of disclosure; and the specific legal basis for the assertion of privilege. Such privilege logs have been provided by the White House in previous Administrations, and this Justice Department has provided similar logs in this very matter, which have been used to help resolve disputes about the production of documents. Yet, you have failed to provide any such information.
In addition, at least since the Reagan Administration in 1982, there has been a specific determination and signed statement by the President when executive privilege has been asserted. In accord with this procedure, President Bush himself has issued such assertions during his Administration. See, e.g., Memorandum for the Attorney General re Congressional Subpoena for Executive Branch Documents (December 12, 2001). See also “Procedures Governing Responses to Congressional Requests for Information,” issued on November 4, 1982, and 6 Op. OLC 31 (1982). Yet you have failed to include any such Presidential assertion or even state whether you have now decided to disregard this established procedure.
Please provide the documents compelled by the subpoenas without further delay. If you continue to decline to do so, you should immediately provide us with the specific factual and legal bases for your claims regarding each document withheld via a privilege log as described above and a copy of any explicit determination by the President with respect to the assertion of privilege. You have until July 9, 2007, at 10 a.m. to bring this and any other information you wish to submit to our attention before we move to proceedings to rule on your claims and consider whether the White House is in contempt of Congress.
We were disappointed that we had to turn to these subpoenas in order to obtain information needed by the Committees to learn the truth about these firings and the erosion of independence at the Justice Department. We are even more disappointed now with yet further stonewalling.
Whether or not we have the benefit of the information we have directed you to provide by July 9, we will take the necessary steps to rule on your privilege claims and appropriately enforce our subpoenas backed by the full force of law.
Sincerely,
PATRICK LEAHY
Chairman
Senate Judiciary Committee
JOHN CONYERS, JR.
Chairman
House Judiciary Committee
cc: The Honorable Arlen Specter
The Honorable Lamar S. Smith
The Committees also released the following fact sheet on Executive Privilege:
The White House’s Broad Claims of Executive Privilege Are Not Supported by Law
Background: President Bush has asserted executive privilege in response to two document subpoenas from the Senate and House Judiciary Committees. The subpoenas requested categories of documents highly relevant to the unprecedented and improper firing of nine United States Attorneys and the politicization of the Department of Justice. The executive privilege is not a broad and sweeping authority the President can hide behind because he does not want to cooperate with congressional oversight — it should not prevent Congress from examining White House documents vitally important to its investigation. While courts have recognized a privilege based in the Constitution, that privilege is not absolute and must be balanced with other constitutional interests, including Congress’s oversight powers.
Courts And Legal Experts Agree Executive Privilege Is Limited:
· The Supreme Court held that the executive privilege is not absolute in United States v. Nixon, 418 U.S. 683, 706 (1974), writing that “neither the doctrine of separation of powers, nor the need for confidentiality of high-level communications, without more, can sustain an absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege … .” The DC Circuit elaborated that “the privilege is qualified, not absolute, and can be overcome by an adequate showing of need.” In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d 729, 745 (D.C. Cir. 1997).
· The District of Columbia Circuit found that even in the area of national security, there was no absolute executive privilege against congressional demands for information: “The executive would have it that the Constitution confers on the executive absolute discretion in the area of national security. This does not stand up. While the Constitution assigns to the President a number of powers relating to national security, … it confers upon Congress other powers equally inseparable from the national security… .” United States v. AT&T, 567 F.2d121, 128 (D.C. Cir. 1977). [The documents requested by the House and Senate Committees do not implicate any national security concerns.]
· The Congressional Research Service emphasizes the limited nature of the executive privilege. “Executive privilege is not an absolute. It is a qualified privilege and is balanced against the constitutional needs and obligations of other branches.” Congressional Research Service, October 21, 2005.
The Documents Requested By Committees Do Not Fit Into Narrow Executive Privilege:
· The privilege covers communications related to presidential decision-making, which is not at issue here. The DC Circuit has found that the presidential communications privilege applies to communications “intimately connected to his presidential decision-making.” In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d at 753. However, numerous witnesses before both House and Senate Committees have testified that the President did not decide which U.S. Attorneys should be fired.
· The privilege, even if it does apply, is overcome by real public need — as exists here. Executive privilege is overcome where the subpoenaed materials likely contain important evidence and where that evidence is not available elsewhere. In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d at 755. Again and again, the evidence the Committee has obtained in this investigation shows significant involvement by Sara Taylor, Harriet Miers, and others in the White House, but the White House has shut down all avenues of obtaining information about that extremely important involvement.
The broader deliberative process privilege does not apply. That privilege does not apply when there is reason to believe government misconduct occurred, as has been clearly established in this matter, and does not apply to full documents – only to specific and relevant passages. Several of the high-ranking officials at the Department of Justice have resigned since this investigation began. In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d at 745.
The White House’s Claims Of Privilege Are Sweeping And Overly Broad:
· The non-partisan Congressional Research Service has been critical of this White House’s sweeping characterizations of executive privilege. “The current Bush Administration … has articulated a legal view of the breadth and reach of presidential constitutional prerogatives that, if applied to information and documents often sought by congressional committees, would stymie such inquiries.” CRS further notes that the Department of Justice’s “assertions of these broad notions of presidential prerogatives are unaccompanied by any authoritative judicial citations.” CRS Congressional Oversight Manual, January 3, 2007, at 45.
· The White House has not sought in good faith to determine where privilege truly does and does not apply. The White House Counsel asserted privilege and declared that “therefore the White House will not be making any production in response to these subpoenas for documents.” June 28, 2007 Letter from Fred Fielding to Chairmen Leahy and Conyers. A serious assertion of privilege would include a serious effort to determine which documents, and which parts of those documents, are covered by any privilege that may apply; White House officials have provided no such comprehensive review.
The White House Has Not Sought Accommodation:
· Most disputes between Congress and the Executive about access to documents and information are resolved through compromise. CRS Congressional Oversight Manual at 39.
· The White House in this case has made one unacceptable “take it or leave it” offer of extremely limited access to witnesses, off-the-record interviews, without transcripts, and a small number of documents. The White House has refused to negotiate further. The Senate and House Judiciary Committees have sought the kind of compromise solutions which generally accompany this type of investigation, but have been consistently rebuffed by the White House. Even the Department of Justice has made attempts to respond to congressional inquiries.
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Friday, July 06, 2007
What Would Happen if the Administration Continues to Defy the Subpoenas?
Marty Lederman
.....MR. RUSSERT: You have asked the White House and others to respond to your subpoenas. They are now invoking executive privilege, and you said this: "We will take the necessary steps to enforce our subpoenas backed by the full force of law so that Congress and the public can get to the truth behind this matter." * * * * What happens if the White House just does not respond to these subpoenas? They invoke executive privilege, it's take it or leave it. What do you do?
SEN. LEAHY: Well, then, then, of course, you have to go to the next step, determine whether they have a legitimate claim of executive privilege. Based on the court cases, it appears they do not. . . . [I]f they do not have a basis for it, then you have a vote on a contempt citation, and it goes to the U.S. Attorney for prosecution. I would hope that's not necessary.
<b>MR. RUSSERT: Are you sure the U.S. Attorney would prosecute?
SEN. LEAHY: Well, I think it'd be very difficult for him not to. But . . . since the debacle of the Nixon time and even in President's Nixon’s presidency, every single President, rather than do that, Republican or Democratic, has worked out a way to get [Congress] this information. </b>
Senator Leahy is correct in one important respect: In almost every single historical case where a House of Congress has issued a contempt citation or threatened to do so, that has prompted the Executive branch to further "accommodate" the legislature by providing information sufficient to allow Congress to proceed with its investigation. (One possible exception, from the Nixon Administration, was Senate Select Comm. on Presidential Campaign Activities v. Nixon, 498 F.2d 725 (D.C. Cir. 1974), in which the Administration successfully resisted a Senate subpoena.)
One might hope that the prospect of its officials being held in contempt would cause this Administration to do the same -- especially because the contempt is a crime punishable by up to a year in prison (see 2 U.S.C. 192), and because, as <a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/fielding-exec-priv/?resultpage=10&">the Acting Attorney General has written</a>, the court of appeals "has recognized that each branch has a 'constitutional mandate to seek optimal accommodation of each other's legitimate interests" (quoting U.S. v. AT&T, 567 F.2d at 127). But it would not surprise many observers if this Administration breaks the mold and refuses to further accommodate Congress -- particularly because it has already taken the view that Congress does not have any "legitimate interests" in determining why the President effectively dismissed the U.S. Attorneys. (<a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/2007/06/first-in-what-will-probably-be-long.html">I've previously explained</a> that I think this view is wrong -- but I doubt I'm going to convince DOJ, let alone David Addington and the President.)
So let's say the two branches are at loggerheads after a contempt citation is issued. What then?
Legally, there are at least three options for Congress.
First, there's the remedy that Senator Leahy invokes: The House or Senate that has voted for contempt can certify that fact to the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia, "whose duty it shall be to bring the matter before the grand jury for its action." 2 U.S.C. 194. The problem with this option is that the (Acting) Attorney General will almost certainly instruct the U.S. Attorney not to prosecute the action, notwithstanding the "duty" imposed by statute. How can the Attorney General issue such an order? Well, when a similar crisis arose in the mid-1980's (relating to contempt against EPA Administrator Anne Gorsuch), OLC issued an Opinion concluding that the statute is unconstitutional to the extent it requires a U.S. Attorney to prosecute a contempt action where the noncompliance is based on the President's assertion of executive privilege: In OLC's view, a U.S. Attorney thus "is not required to refer a contempt citation in these circumstances to a grand jury or otherwise to prosecute an Executive Branch official who is carrying out the President's [executive privilege] instruction." 8 Op. O.L.C. 101, 102.
This is a contestable conclusion. (There are many things about the 1984 OLC Opinion with which I disagree -- but whether the ultimate conclusion is correct is a tricky question.) Be that as it may, it's fairly certain that the Bush Administration will not repudiate it. Therefore, it is virtually inconceivable there will ever be any contempt prosecution brought by the U.S. Attorney. (The Administration would comply with the subpoenas long before it would authorize such prosecutions.)
Second, Congress can itself prosecute the contumacious official(s) to coerce them to comply -- a power that the Supreme Court has affirmed. See Jurney v. MacCracken, 294 U.S. 125 (1935); Anderson v. Dunn, 19 U.S. (6 Wheat.) 204 (1821); see also Groppi v. Leslie, 404 U.S. 496, 499 (1972). As Justice Scalia explained in Young v. U.S. ex rel. Vuitton et Fils, S.A., 481 U.S. at 820, this legislative prosecution authority is a constitutional anomaly of sorts -- a "limited power of self-defense" for Congress, permissible because "any other course 'leads to the total annihilation of the power of the House of Representatives to guard itself from contempts, and leaves it exposed to every indignity and interruption that rudeness, caprice, or even conspiracy, may meditate against it'" (quoting Anderson).
How would such self-help work? Well, believe it or not, the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Senate or House would personally arrest the officials and detain them in the Capitol jail or guardhouse (assuming such a facility still exists). (One of my students last semester noticed this gem on the <a href="http://www.senate.gov/reference/office/sergeant_at_arms.htm">website</a> of the current Senate Sergeant-at-Arms, Terrance Gainer: "The Sergeant at Arms is authorized to arrest and detain any person violating Senate rules, including the President of the United States." We wondered in class: What could possibly have motivated Mr. Gainer or his staff to post that provocation?) The person would then be tried by the legislative house and, if found guilty (of civil contempt), could be detained until compliance with the subpoena or until the session of Congress ends, Anderson, 19 U.S. at 231, whichever comes first.
Congress has not invoked this authority since 1935 and, as far as I know, has never used it against a current or former government official. (The closest case was probably the contempt at issue in McGrain v. Daugherty, 273 U.S. 135 (1927), which was imposed against Mally Daugherty, a bank president and the brother of resigned and disgraced Attorney General Harry Daugherty, who Congress was investigating in connection with the Teapot Dome scandal.)
Thus, this option is unlikely . . . but not inconceivable, if Congress is willing to break relatively new ground, and to conduct a contempt trial.
Third, and most likely, Congress could file a civil action in federal court seeking declaratory relief, or an injunction requiring enforcement of its subpoena. Although I'm not aware of any statute that expressly grants the courts jurisdiction over such suits, both Congress and the Executive branch have filed suits of this sort in the past, asserting federal question jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. 1331. The courts in such cases have not expressly reach edthe question of whether section 1331 jurisdiction is apposite. See Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities v. Nixon, 366 F. Supp. 51 (D.D.C. 1973) (holding that the $10,000 jurisdictional amount in controversy requirement then in the statute (it's since been eliminated) was not satisfied); United States v. House of Representatives, 556 F. Supp. 150 (D.D.C. 1983) (in which DOJ took the position that the controversy arose under the Constitution and laws of the United States, but the court did not reach the merits -- it dismissed the suit "until all possibilities for settlement have been exhausted"; and DOJ did not appeal).....
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For Immediate Release
July 9, 2007
Communication to Congress on President's Assertion of Executive Privilege
......In response to your inquiry concerning the mechanics of the President's assertion of the privilege, you may be assured that the President's assertion here comports with prior practices in similar contexts, and that it has been appropriately documented. I do hope that your Committees will appreciate that I write on behalf of the President and therefore understand that my letter of June 28, 2007 precisely expresses the President's position on this matter.
Your letter also "direct[s]" the President to provide certain additional information to the Committees before 10:00 a.m. on July 9, 2007. The letter goes on to say that a very detailed "privilege log" is necessary "to facilitate ruling on" claims of Executive Privilege and your letter thereafter announces an intention to "take the necessary steps to rule on [the President's executive] privilege claims." We are aware of no authority by which a congressional committee may "direct" the Executive to undertake the task of creating and providing an extensive description of every document covered by an assertion of Executive Privilege. Given the descriptions of the materials in question that have already been provided, this demand is unreasonable because it represents a substantial incursion into Presidential prerogatives and because, in view of the open-ended scope of the Committees' inquiry, it would impose a burden of very significant proportions. ........
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House panel rejects Bush privilege claim
7/12/2007, 5:33 p.m. EDT
By LAURIE KELLMAN
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Democrats on Thursday took the first step toward holding former White House counsel Harriet Miers in contempt of Congress after she defied a subpoena — at President Bush's order — and skipped a hearing on the firing of U.S. attorneys.
Over the strenuous objections of Republicans, a subcommittee cleared the way for contempt proceedings by voting 7-5 to reject Bush's claim of executive privilege. He says his top advisers, whether current or former, cannot be summoned by Congress.
"Those claims are not legally valid," <b>Rep. Linda Sanchez, D-Calif., said of Bush's declaration.</b> "Ms. Miers is required pursuant to the subpoena to be here now."......
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us
Ruling of Chairwoman Linda Sánchez on Related Executive
Privilege and Immunity Claims
Privilege and Immunity Claims
According to letters we have received from Ms. Harriet Miers’ counsel, her refusal to
answer questions and produce relevant documents in accordance with her obligations under the
subpoena served on her June 13 is based on letters she has received from current White House
Counsel Fred Fielding, asserting related claims of executive privilege and immunity. Many of
these claims had already been raised and communicated to us previously.
We have given all these claims careful consideration, and I hereby rule that those claims
are not legally valid and that Ms. Miers is required pursuant to the subpoena to be here now and
to produce documents and answer questions.
I will presently entertain a motion to sustain this ruling, but first I would like to set forth
the grounds for it. They are as follows:
First, the claims of privilege and immunity are not properly asserted. Ms. Miers is no
longer an employee of the White House and is simply relying on a claim of Presidential
executive privilege and immunity communicated by the current White House Counsel. No one
is here today on behalf of the White House raising that claim.....
.....Second, we are aware of absolutely no possible proper basis for Ms. Miers’ refusing even
to appear today as required by subpoena. The White House Counsel’s letter to Ms. Miers’s
attorney, and her attorney’s letters to the Subcommittee, fail to cite a single case in support of the
notion that a witness under federal subpoena may simply decline to show up to a hearing. Indeed,
no court decision that we are aware of supports the White House’s astounding claim that a former
White House official has the option of refusing to even appear in response to a Congressional
subpoena.
To the contrary, the courts have made clear that no present or former government official
– even the President – is so above the law that he or she may completely disregard a legal
directive such as the Committee’s subpoena. click to show
And in keeping with this principle, both present and former White House officials have
testified before Congress numerous times, including incumbent and former White House
Counsels. For example, I mentioned earlier that Beth Nolan has told our Subcommittee that she
appeared before Congressional committees four times on matters directly related to her duties as
White House Counsel, three of those times while she was still in that position.
As I also mentioned earlier, a Congressional Research Service study documents some 74
instances where White House advisers have testified before Congress since World War II.
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Moreover, even the 1999 Office of Legal Counsel opinion referred to in Mr. Fielding’s
July 10 letter refers only to current White House advisers, and not to former advisers; and it
acknowledges that the courts might not agree with its conclusion as to current advisors. Such
Justice Department opinions, including a new one issued just yesterday to try to support this
claim, are not law, they state only the Executive Branch’s own view of the law, and have no
legal force whatsoever.
It is also noteworthy that both of the Justice Department opinions relied on by the White House
and Ms. Miers fail to support a single court case in support of their novel legal conclusions.
Just yesterday, another former White House adviser, Sara Taylor, appeared before the
Senate Judiciary Committee pursuant to subpoena and testified about at least some of the
relevant facts in this matter despite the White House’s assertion of executive privilege.
2
Harold C. Relyea & Todd B. Tatelman, Presidential Advisers’ Testimony Before
Congressional Committees: An Overview, CRS Report for Congress, RL 31351 (April 10,
2007).
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This White House’s asserted right to secrecy goes beyond even Richard Nixon, who
initially refused to allow his White House Counsel, John Dean, to testify before Congress, on
almost exactly the same grounds being asserted now, but then agreed that Mr. Dean and other
White House officials could testify.
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Third, the White House has failed to demonstrate that the information we are seeking
from Ms. Miers – testimony and documents as called for by the subpoena – is covered by
executive privilege. We were not expecting Ms. Miers to be revealing any communications to or
from the President himself, which is the most commonly recognized scope of the presidential
communications privilege.
In fact, as recently as June 28, a senior White House official at an authorized background
briefing specifically stated that the President had “no personal involvement” in receiving advice
about the firing of the U.S. Attorneys or in approving or adjusting the list. Ms. Taylor testified
yesterday that she was not aware of any personal involvement by the President. We are seeking
information from Ms. Miers and other White House officials about their own communications
and their own involvement in the process.
The White House claims that executive privilege nevertheless applies, because it also
covers documents and testimony by White House staff who advise the President, apparently
based on the Espy decision.
4
But the Espy court made clear that its expansion of the presidential communications
privilege applied only when information is sought in a judicial proceeding and “should not be
read as in any way affecting the scope of the privilege in the congressional-executive context.”
5
And the Espy court also made clear that the privilege extends only to communications
from or to presidential advisers “in the course of preparing advice for the President.”
6
But the
White House has maintained that <b>the President never received any advice on, and was not</b>
3
L. Fisher, The Politics of Executive Privilege 59-60 (2004).
4
In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d 729, 752 (D.C. Cir. 1997).
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Id. at 753.
6
Id. at 752.
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<b>himself involved in</b>, the U.S. Attorney firings. The presidential communications privilege, even
as expanded by the Espy case, simply does not apply here.
Fourth, with respect to our subpoena’s request for documents from Ms. Miers, the courts
have required a party raising a claim of privilege to provide a “descriptive, full, and specific
itemization of the various documents being claimed as privileged“ and “precise and certain
reasons for preserving their confidentiality.”
These words are from the Smith v. FTC case and the Black v. Sheraton case.
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Here, no such itemized privilege log has been provided by Ms. Miers or her counsel. In
effect, the White House is telling Congress and the American people that documents and
testimony are privileged without deigning to explain why. In other words, the White House is
simply saying, “Trust us. We will decide.”
Fifth, even assuming that the information we have asked for fell within the scope of a
properly asserted executive privilege, any such privilege is outweighed by the compelling need
for the House and the public to have access to this information.
As the Supreme Court held in U.S. v. Nixon, claims of executive privilege are not
absolute, and depend on a balancing of the need for privilege versus the need for the information
being sought. Here that balance clearly weighs against sustaining any privilege claim.
The privilege claims here are weak. In addition to the points I have made already, it is
important to note that the claims by the White House are not limited to specific discussions or
documents but are an attempt at a blanket prohibition against any documents being provided and
any testimony from present or former aides whatsoever, including concerning communications
with people outside the Executive Branch altogether.
And the need for the information we seek from the White House is very strong. We have
tried extensively to obtain information from other sources, including reviewing thousands of
documents provided by the Justice Department, and hearing testimony or conducting on-the-
record interviews with 20 current or former DOJ officials.
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Smith v. FTC, 403 F. Supp. 1000, 1018 (D. Del. 1975); Black v. Sheraton Corp., 371
F.Supp. 97, 101 (D.D.C. 1974).
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Yet we still don’t know, for example, how or why or by whom Mr. Iglesias was put on
the list to be fired. We still don’t know what actions, if any, were taken by Karl Rove or other
White House officials on the firing of Mr. Iglesias.
Similar questions remain unanswered about the firing of other U.S. Attorneys and about the
involvement of White House officials in the misleading information provided to Congress on this
subject.
Why is this important? For several reasons. For one, the evidence obtained thus far
raises serious concerns about whether federal laws have been broken in the U.S. Attorney matter
– including laws prohibiting obstruction of justice, laws like the Hatch Act against retaliating
against federal employees for improper political reasons, and laws prohibiting misleading or
obstructing Congress.
The courts have made clear that executive privilege is generally overcome when the
information sought concerns government misconduct. Indeed, the court in the Espy case stated
that when there is “any reason to believe government misconduct occurred,” the deliberative
process element of executive privilege “disappears altogether.”
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In addition, obtaining more complete information on what happened in the U.S.
Attorneys matter may well reveal problems warranting new legislation by Congress. This is a
well-recognized ground for authorizing Congress to obtain Executive Branch information, as the
Supreme Court stated in the case of McGrain v. Daugherty.
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Indeed, we have already passed legislation changing the rules for interim appointment of
U.S. Attorneys as an outgrowth of our investigation so far.
The White House claims that Congress’ role is limited because the appointment of U.S.
Attorneys is done by the President with the Senate’s approval. That is true, however, only
because of a law passed by Congress itself.
Under the Constitution, both the courts and the Department itself have recognized that
U.S. Attorneys are considered “inferior officers,” and that rules for their appointment and
8
In re Sealed Case, 121 F.3d at 746.
9
273 U.S. 135, 177-78 (1926).
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removal are not vested in the sole discretion of the President, but can be set by Congress, just as
we did recently in passing the law on interim appointment of U.S. Attorneys.
10
Finally, even assuming it is never proven that any laws were broken here, the evidence
already clearly indicates an abuse of power and legal authority by this Administration in the U.S.
Attorneys matter. Investigating and exposing such abuses is clearly within the oversight
authority of Congress and justifies obtaining the kind of information we seek.
As the Supreme Court ruled in the Watkins case fifty years ago, Congress has “broad power”
to investigate “the administration of existing laws” and to “expose corruption, inefficiency, or waste”
or similar problems in the Executive Branch.
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Regardless of whether laws were broken, it is clearly important for Congress and the
American people to know, for example, whether any of these U.S. Attorneys were fired because
they refused to bring vote fraud or other cases that Republicans wanted for partisan reasons, or
because they pursued corruption or other cases against Republicans.
<b>For all the foregoing reasons, I hereby rule that Ms. Miers’s refusal to comply with the
subpoena and appear at this hearing, and to answer questions and provide relevant documents
regarding these concerns, cannot be properly justified on executive privilege or related immunity
grounds.</b>
These reasons are without prejudice to one another and to any other defects that may
after further examination be found to exist in the asserted privilege.
10
See, e.g., United States v. Sotomayor Vazquez, 69 F.Supp.2d 286 (D.Puerto Rico
1999); 2 U.S. Op. Off. Legal Counsel 58 (Feb. 28, 1978)
.
11
Watkins v. United States, 354 U.S. 178, 187 (1957).
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Yes, it pretty much explains why Gore had the election stolen from him. Perhaps Gore needed to let his inner animal do its thing.
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ace....is Harriet Meiers, former appointee to the SCOTUS by Mr. Bush, setting an example of her fitness to serve as a justice on that bench, when she did not afford the congressional sub-committee, even the courtesy, of appearing before it, as demanded in the subpoena served to her by the sub-committee, after it was deemed necessary to subpoena here, because of her refusal to appear voluntarily, to either testify, or to assert claims of privilege, or of her fifth amendment rights?
ace, or reconmike....are you even keeping up a pretense, with the posting of a "Clinton's victim list (no links were provided), and with ace's Gore reference (above)....of participating in a political discussion, here? Isn't what you are doing, by posting the Gore reference, ace...in the context of this recent question, posted by
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Originally Posted by ratbastid
Ace, it's interesting to notice where you're for the rule of law and where you're against it. Evidently presidential testicular mass trumps the laws of the land?
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.....more appropriate for posting in a "general discussion", or in some other TFP forum?
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