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11-06-2007, 09:19 AM | #81 (permalink) | ||
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11-06-2007, 09:41 AM | #82 (permalink) | ||
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The fact that I find it far easier to discuss anything with Ustwo than you for the simple reason that he'll accept shades of grey should speak volumes to you. I don't have any problem with you bringing your axe to grind in every thread, but the fact that you expressly refuse to acknowledge your agenda really detracts from your overall message here. I've never said that Thompson was a choir boy or an angel. Far from it, as a matter of fact. What I have said, at least in the last 24 hours worth of posts is that Thompson pumped the White House for information that he used against them. Really, all of this stuff has been in the historical record for decades and it's nothing new. The only reason it's being dredged up again is Thompson's political aspirations. Why is it relavent what the White House thought of Thompson at the time when the results CLEARLY show something completely different actually happened? There were always accusations that the Republicans on the Watergate committee were taking orders from the White House. Those who made those accussations changed their tune after Nixon's resignation. Quote:
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11-06-2007, 10:16 AM | #83 (permalink) | ||
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Again, please stop shooting the messenger and discuss the information, Challenge it, or ignore it, but stop coming at me. Your argument is weak, and since it is weak and contrary to the news reporting it can reasonably be described as a meritless, partisan defense of Fred Thompson's conduct when he served as minority counsel on the Watergate investigation committee. Again, I am not "one of the most partisan". The "most partisan" are folks who post unsupported statements of opinion, or supported only by, over and over, highly prejudiced sources, instead of by news reporting. My expectations are dashed more as I read each new post from you, but I still hold out a sliver of hope that you are able to do the right thing here, since I believe that you have repeatedly directed opinions at me, and about me, that are inappropriate and uncalled for. You've made it more difficult for me to participate here. Please stop doing it. Quote:
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11-06-2007, 10:19 AM | #84 (permalink) | |
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
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I don't think his allegiance is emotional. I'd say it's more rational. Yes, one can have an emotional response from a reasonable conclusion, but the initial opinions and facts are dispassionate. |
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11-06-2007, 10:34 AM | #85 (permalink) | |||||
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I posted that Libby and Wilkes broke the law, they were convicted on multiple charges. I posted that the president committed the crime of pre-emptive aggressive war. I cited in agreement, no less than the opinion of Ben Ferencz the eminent living expert on the issue. A reasonable person could conclude that former Nuremberg prosecutor Ben Ferencz's opinion on the matter, along with the quotes I've posted of chief Nuremberg Prosecutor Robert Jackson's arguments at the Nuremberg trials, would make an argument reasonable, that, Bush, by ordering pre-emptive war against another sovereign nation, had committed a war crime, a crime against humanity, in that, as Jackson said, all subsequent crimes related to the decision to wage such a war, were the responsibility of those who launched pre-emptive war. None of these examples from my posts are partisan, because they are reasonable to believe. Last edited by host; 11-06-2007 at 11:03 AM.. |
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11-06-2007, 11:46 AM | #86 (permalink) | |
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If you were actually offended by a comparison to Ustwo you shouldn't be. It wasn't a comparison, simply my perferrence for debate partners. Again, I'll let this drop if that's what you want, but you seem to be reopening the door, so I'll leave it to you where to continue this conversation.
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11-06-2007, 03:21 PM | #87 (permalink) | |
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You mean its not host?
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11-14-2007, 09:40 PM | #88 (permalink) |
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So.... our operative is?
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11-15-2007, 05:37 AM | #89 (permalink) | |
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11-16-2007, 07:12 AM | #91 (permalink) | |
Pissing in the cornflakes
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If you said something you were not suppose to accidentally, it happens, let me know and I'll drop it, but I feel its fair to know who has a professional agenda when posting in what should be a free discussion of ideas when considering their opinion.
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