01-20-2007, 03:08 PM | #41 (permalink) |
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Mike...I'm curious why you refer to the Clintons as Slick Willy and Hellary?
Do you think it makes your post more credible? Does it demonstrate your commitment as a loyal republican? Do you think people will find it funny? What's the point?
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01-20-2007, 03:18 PM | #42 (permalink) |
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DC: Sometimes my grandma uses nicknames because she can't remember people's real names. It's depressing because it serves as a reminder that she's getting older and has lost some of her memories and such.
Of course it could just be mike wants to annoy people. I imagine if I always refered to the president as dubbuyuh (I do only on the occasions when I am discussing how stupid the president is, and only after using his name) it would annoy people whether they like Bush or not. |
01-20-2007, 04:22 PM | #43 (permalink) |
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Will...I dont think its a case of memory loss in this case.
In any case, I dont find the references to Slick Willy and Hellary to be annoying. I just think its childish and counter-productive if someone wants their comments to be taken seriously. BTW, I thought "dubyuh" came from Bush's friends in Texas, as a way of kidding him about his "southern" roots.
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01-22-2007, 10:48 AM | #45 (permalink) | |
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Just like when people called Nixon tricky dick, sometimes people call politicians names. When have I ever said I was a loyal republican? I am a loyal Reconmikeacrat, whomever has MY best interests at heart gets my vote, living in Jersey makes it difficult at times, due to the fact this place leans so far left I barely see the sun rise over the bay in the morning.
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Good news...Carol Lam, San Diego US attorney who was forced to resign by the Bush administration, won't be around to prosecute these traitorous thugs (too strong a phrase? Who declared this to be a "time of war"...and aren't these profiteering crimes against the US defense department? How would you describe officials who would do these financial crimes, in this era?)....she has apparently made her case, and has ordered an indictment against former #3 at Cia, Kyle "Dusty" Foggo's best friend, and mentor of admitted Duke Cunningham briber, Mitchell Wade, and the man who Cunningham swore to a federal judge, also bribed him....Brent Wilkes...
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your right will. i did a search on that a few years ago now..its the 'double-you' that gives him his nick 'dubya'
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01-23-2007, 05:23 AM | #48 (permalink) |
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oh, its definately a "w". and that sort of nicknaming is incredibly common down here. i don't think it has anything to do with his choice or inability to articulate his speech - that's just the way we talk.
and i love it.
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02-01-2007, 07:59 AM | #49 (permalink) |
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The thread got OT...maybe it can be steered back to an OP topic...
Watch CNN commentator Jack Cafferty's blunt video on the replacement of US Attorneys with white house political hacks, including the dismissal of US Attorney Carol Lam, who investigated and prosecuted Duke Cunningham, and is now reported to be about to arrest former CIA #3 Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, and his best friend and named Cunningham briber, Brett Wilkes.....as Carol Lam herself is pushed out the door.... http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002429.php (I have a problem getting sound with the video unless I doubleclick on the arrow in the image....) |
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Did I just miss behavior like this from Clinton, Bush 1, and Reagan, or is this a new low? |
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02-01-2007, 09:10 AM | #51 (permalink) | ||
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...seriously, though....I'm as "up to speed", following the minutiae of it, as I have since the beginning, and if I don't know all of the specifics of the Cunningham/Abramoff/Wade/Ney (convicted so far....) Delay (indicted, and prosecutor Ronnie Earl has issued subpoenas related to this, also.....) Wilkes/Foggo (about to be indicted), and Lewis, Harris, Ed Buckham, and probably Goss, still under investigation.....what member of the public, does? (I've documented the "roles" and associations to this, of the names above, this morning on the "Porter Goss" thread....) The Cunningham investigation began only because a San Diego reporter matched a Washington DC address of a Corp. set up by Mitchell Wade to buy Cunningham's house, with Wade himself, and wrote a story about it. Fired US Attorney Carol Lam has not been a zealous prosecutor, even though it appears that Wade and Wilkes and Cunningham were on the radar screen of her predecessor as far back as in 2000. She is however, in charge of this complicated mess, and the move to remove her cannot aid in moving along the investigation, especially since she is now reported to be committed to indicting Wilkes and Foggo before she leaves. The "tell" will be who is appointed to replace her.....here is another tangent of this investigation, to provide an additional glimpse of it's depth. Quote:
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02-01-2007, 12:20 PM | #52 (permalink) |
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c'mon guys, get real. This is a totally nonpartisan phenomenon. Have you forgotten Ron Brown? Webster Hubbell? Henry Cisneros? That's just off the top of my head. With a spot of research I probably could dig stuff out on every single last administration all the way back to Sherman Adams and past that. And Congress? fuhgeddaboudit........
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02-01-2007, 03:37 PM | #53 (permalink) |
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There is no arguing that corruption knows no party distinction.
But, when its all said and done, I believe the recent Repub Congress with the likes of Delay, Cunningham, Ney, Doolittle, Burns, et al, will surpass Koreagate (where only one member of Congress was indicted for shading dealings with Sun Young Moon of Washington Times fame), the Keating five S&L scandal (no indictments and John McCain, one of the five, continues on) and even Abscam (the worst bribery scandal in Congressional history, although because of FBI "entrapment", there were few convictions). Ten years of power absolutely corrupted the Republicans so blatantly and pervasively that their K street project, with a goal of creating a permanent Repub majority through connections to Abramoff and other lobbyists, was their publicly and shamelessly touted pride and joy. Fortunately, too many were caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
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02-01-2007, 07:19 PM | #54 (permalink) |
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oh, c'mon, DcDux. you really must be joking. Either that or you're too young to remember the congressional scandal every few months back when the Dems controlled things. And it was sleazy, too: remember Fanne Foxe?
As I said, this is a nonpartisan foible of people who like power. You go to Dc, and you have to work pretty hard not to let the opportunities go to your head and maintain perspective. |
02-01-2007, 08:26 PM | #55 (permalink) |
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Fannie Fox...gimme a break. Do you really equate sexual escapades between consenting adults with criminal corruption for financial gain?
If so, I could probably write a book about my two+ years working in the Senate in the 80s when Bob Packwood, the Repub senator from OR was sexually harrassing the women on his staff and others on the hill with whom he had contact. Sorry loquitor, the last ten years of Repub control took corruption to a new level. Thats not to say the Dems wont ever surpass it. (hiding $100,000 of payoff money in a freezer, for example).....but the bar has certainly been set high (or low as it were) by the Delay/Abramoff crowd.
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02-02-2007, 06:25 AM | #56 (permalink) |
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Sitting here, I can just keep throwing names out, almost without thinking: Jim Wright. Dan Rostenkowski. (these were speakers of the house, not mere obscure congressmen). Right now, Alan Mollohan (sp?) is under investigation, this minute, today. And this is without doing a lick of research, just off the top of my head.
I think you just have to resign yourself to the fact that politicians are politicians, that being close to power breeds corruption, and that it's neither a Dem nor Rep phenomenon. The notion that there is anything unique about the lamentable way the recent Repubulican majority behaved is fanciful. I would submit, in fact, that the reason the Republicans lost their majority was precisely because their own base got disgusted that they were behaving just like the old-time Dems who they threw out in '94. |
02-02-2007, 08:22 AM | #57 (permalink) |
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You can cite many more individual names from the the past, but having seen alot of it up close over the last 20 years, including the influence of the K street crowd for the last 10 years, you wont change my mind about the most recent level and pervasiveness of corruption that surpassed any previous Dem-controlled Congress (that includes, as I mentioned, the Abscam Congress, the Korea-gate Congress, and the Keating-Five Congress, all recognized as among the worst scandals in Congressional history) with the most violations of federal laws, campaign regulations, and/or congressional ethics rules.
This captures the GOP Auction House pretty well, considering the source (DCCC). I hope the voters continue to hold both parties accountable and those elected to power learn from it.
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02-02-2007, 09:06 AM | #58 (permalink) |
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personally, i think that the conservative approach to economic activity creates a certain ethically challenged mode of rule.
you know, the idea that you should take everything that you can because the world is a giant private sphere and all economic activity is a productive intervention in that giant private sphere, that the extension of markets provides god with a better way to bring unto righteousness all and sundry, and that capital creates not labor, and that by extending the reach of market relations one is doing gods work, and that god's work relies upon the Heroic Exertion of the Entrepreneur, the capitalist demiurge, and that it is by the sweat of the virtuous brow of the Entrepreneur that the reach of god and markets (the same thing, really) is extended across otherwise benighted sections of the giant private sphere, that this extension improves that giant private sphere----and since it is by the sweat of one's brow that the giant private sphere is improved, it follows that one is entitled to take whatever one can get as compensation for the expenditure of the aforementioned sweat and the dirtying of the aforementioned virtuous brow----and since one's virtue is confirmed by the giantness of the mounds of cash that flow through the private business apparatus it follows that the magnitude of what one can take as compensation rises as one's virtue rises--so it follows that one is affirmed in one's righteousness as one gathers ever-larger amounts of cash unto oneself--and that within this Exalted Sphere of Righteousness that is vast wealth, the fashioning of networks and sweetheart deals and nobid contract arrangements and nepotism and other such actions that would be counted as ethical lapses amongst the Fallen are not understood that way--all actions are the simple extension of Righteousness. it would also follow that people who misinterpret the actions of the Righteous as being ethically problematic are probably tainted with the original sin of class envy. "they" resent us because they resent our Righteousness. "they" are the devil's spawn. sadly, i am not joking.
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One of the fastest growing "economic activities" in the last six years is influence peddling (ie lobbying).
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No wonder "they hate us for our freedom"! The thugs made a mistake...allowing li'l Mclatchy News to buy Knight Ridder, last year. If Ruppert or somebody from CNP (Salem) had bought it, a lot of these embarassing "scoops" wouldn't get publicized: Quote:
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Prediction: Now that Brent Wilkes has finally been convicted, former chairman of the House Defense Appropriations Committee, Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA) may be next to be indicted, because Wilkes will roll over on him in exchange for a reduction in his prison sentence....I'm assuming an earnest prosecution team would also demand that Wilkes cooperate in the prosecution of his life-long, best bud, former #3 at CIA, Kyle "Dusty" Foggo. I'm impressed, because, as I've recapped below, the hollowed out DOJ under Fredo Gonzales seemed to be obstructing investigations and prosecutions that should be considered "vital" in an all out, "War on Terror".....
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I've "studied" this "mess" for the last 28 months.....this is a ticking time bomb, and if republicans think that they can "defuse" it, by bringing "Ted the Fixer" in to replace Gonzales, right after he installs the prosecutor, Deborah Yang who was investigating Jerry Lewis, onto Lewis's criminal defense team, consider what "Ted" once told the SCOTUS justices: Quote:
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Regarding the OP (and disregarding the subsequent flurry of quote posts):
Politicians do not love or hate freedom, it is simply a concept they will exploit to further thier own ends. This goes for Bush, Bin Laden, Cheney, Clinton, Zawahiri, Obama and Giuliani. Do you actually think any of the above mentioned have your interests at heart?
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