mixedmedia

Mine does that at work but not here at home - just on this thread. Could not begin to tell you why.

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matthew330

"PS: How's the tits forum?"....consistently entertaining.

dc_dux

Consider what is suggested by the OP in two current threads...

"Socialist regulators are killing freedom in America"

"A looming call for violent revolution against the wealthy is just and necessary"

Perhaps these over-reactionary tomes are what are driving people away from discussion here.

Gimme a fucking break! Why discuss such nonsense?

In the words of Arnold...."I'll be back" when the discussions return to practical political issues of the day.

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Willravel

Whether something is reactionary or not is really a matter of perspective, and TFP is all about an amalgam of perspectives from all over the world. To some people, a growing number of people, things like the richest of the rich coming together to fuck over everyone are a call to arms. Here we discuss that. If it's nonsense to you, that's cool. Just check out other threads. I've thought a few threads on Politics were nonsense a few times, but I still come back.

host

Yup....it isn't "nonsense" to create and conduct the stealth campaign financed for $!85 million by America's 18 richest families, to influence legislation to eliminate inheritance taxes......but it is "nonsense" to react to it by discussing it on a thread here.

I suppose that it is nothing to react emotionally about......because our "revolution" should always be conducted withing the "form", right??
dc_dux, consider the reaction of the masses in Stockholm , or in Paris, Berlin, or even in Tokyo, to awakening one day to find the state of economic inequality, and the trend toward even more of it.....which we currently look forward to, in the US. Would my post and the discussion that followed in my thread, really be that "radical"?

You apparently make your livelihood from the principle of "compromise solution" in national US politics in the US. If you haven't noticed, dc_dux, that principle and process had been pre-empted, bought out....it no longer exists, and it didn't as far back as 1933.

We experience a radicalized time of "takeover" by the rich. They've destroyed our unions by exporting the jobs out from under them. They never stop their endeavor for advantage, for control. They do this by any means neccessary, including by aggressive pre-emptive war. They play by no rules and resort to violence when it suits them.....but for us to talk about a critical mass, resulting from the success of their efforts.....is enough to drive you away from here, in protest? Who do you really serve, dc_dux?

mixedmedia

I think it a little strange to suggest that pure evil is being wreaked upon us by the rich and then support violent revolution against them in the same breath. It's not that I don't see the potentials and actuals at play as to the disparity between the poor and wealthy in the world, it just seems ideologically extreme to suggest that our recourse is to take up arms and kill people, not to mention hypocritical.

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PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile. - Ambrose Bierce

dc_dux

Will, I agree on the amalgam of perspectives. I just dont find it personally productive to engage in a discussion when the premise is based on (in the words of Goldwater) "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" whether it comes from the left or the right. I suspect others may share my disinterest in such discussions (just an observation on the recent the lack of discussion..*shrug" but who knows?)

Host.I am full capable of separating my strong personal beliefs from the obligations of my livelihood...and I made my feelings known on our current tax policy, the widening wealth gap, and the danger of the unsustainable exploding growth of our national debt in other threads. I agree with your assessement and respect your passion, but dont believe in your suggested solution.

And, who do I really serve?
My secret is out

I was a charter member of the DC branch of "Billionaires for Bush"...

Billionaires for Bush is a grassroots network of corporate lobbyists, decadent heiresses, Halliburton CEOs, and other winners under George W. Bush's economic policies. Headquartered in Wall Street and with over 60 chapters nationwide, we'll give whatever it takes to ensure four more years of putting profit over people. After all, we know a good president when we buy one.

....but have been pretty much inactive since our second coronation ball in Jan 2005. (you can find me in there somewhere)

Happy New Year to all!

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