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Old 11-04-2006, 06:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bush approval rating tracker

There's a very interesting interactve chart on the BBC that draws together three main poling organisations in the US (see graphic) to show how the President has rated over the past 5 years.





The version on the BBC gives clickable links to events in the time that relate to canges in his rating.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/6038436.stm

In the run-up to the elections you're having, I thought this was enlightening.

What do you all think?
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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People are tired of bush like people are tired of old boyfriends and girlfriends.
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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People are tired of bush like people are tired of old boyfriends and girlfriends.
Bush can't perform in the bedroom?
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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His approval rating is still much higher than Congress.
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WASHINGTON — President Bush's job approval rating has slipped to 39%, the lowest measure of his presidency, according to a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll.
At the same time, job approval for Congress, which has a Republican majority, has fallen to 29%. That is its lowest level since 1994, the year Democrats lost control of the Senate and House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...approval_x.htm
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Old 11-04-2006, 10:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you for the link, Daniel.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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People are tired of bush like people are tired of old boyfriends and girlfriends.

PRobably true, very much like there was Clinton fatigue in the last years of his administration
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Old 11-04-2006, 12:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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PRobably true, very much like there was Clinton fatigue in the last years of his administration
Another one of those myths perpetuated by Limbaugh et al.

Clinton never had job approval ratings below 50% in his second term, even during the impeachment hearings and trial. He left office with about the same job approval rating as Reagan...mid 60% average:
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/cgi...lts?pr=Clinton
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank you for the link, Daniel.
No problem.

I found it interesting that even news organisations that I hav come to think of a partisan in some way (fox news) are showing a fall from favour for the president - after he had some of the best ratings ever post 9-11.

The sad fact is that regardless of one's political inclination, Bush seems to have quite clearly not been able to hang onto the lead that circumstance gave him.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Another one of those myths perpetuated by Limbaugh et al.

Clinton never had job approval ratings below 50% in his second term, even during the impeachment hearings and trial. He left office with about the same job approval rating as Reagan...mid 60% average:
http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/cgi...lts?pr=Clinton
lol, Imagine that, the right making up things to make it seem like Bush isn't a miserable failure.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I found it interesting that even news organisations that I hav come to think of a partisan in some way (fox news) are showing a fall from favour for the president - after he had some of the best ratings ever post 9-11.

Well there's only so far you can go and still fool people into thinking you're unbiased. Fox couldn't come out and claim Bush had a 75% approval rating because people would figure it out and even the most neo of the neocons would stop listening to them. What they do instead is to spin the news in various ways to try and stack the deck against the left.

For example Cavuto only asks softball questions of republicans, while democrats get grilled. I use him as an example because he's one of Fox's worst actors - - he really can't make it seem like he's balanced, even to conservative friends of mine.
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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PRobably true, very much like there was Clinton fatigue in the last years of his administration
Shakran's Law in full effect!
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Another one of those myths perpetuated by Limbaugh et al.

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/cgi...lts?pr=Clinton
Job approval #s and administration fatigue are two very different things. Fatigue occurs with all two term admins.
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Exactly what I was thinking!!

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Old 11-05-2006, 07:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Job approval #s and administration fatigue are two very different things. Fatigue occurs with all two term admins.
I agree with NCB. Climb back onto your chair.

What we're seeing in Bush's approval rating is WAY more than garden variety administration fatigue. People were ready for something new by the end of Clinton's term (and Reagan's, for that matter). That's not what this is. This is a massive rejection by the majority of Americans of what Bush and his administration have been up to. Bush's approval rating has been lower longer than any US president (don't have a source on that--heard it on the news somewhere). This is a LOUD communication from America that they don't like Bush's policies.

I disagree with NCB's assertion a few posts back that it's "very much like in Clinton's second term". (I'm actually not clear, NCB, why you brought up administration fatigue in the first place, if what we're talking about is approval numbers, which are very different from that.) It's not at all like Clinton's second term. Clinton weathered a few bad-rating storms, but he came out strong and popular. Bush is on track to be our most generally disapproved-of ex-president.

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