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Campaign Ad re:Harold Ford. Click for a laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vZF5ZTu2Go
The video is an unbelievable and actually pretty funny attack ad on Harold Ford, a Democrat running for Senate in Tennessee. It's already caused quite a stir (see http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...749189796.html) I thought you'd all at least be amused by it. TFPolitics has been a divisive place lately, so let's try to keep the discussion here relatively light-hearted. Do you think the ad is inherently objectionable, and should be pulled? Do you agree with reports that it is racist? As for myself, the ad is really too self-evidently silly for me to get worked up about it. It certainly didn't strike me as 'racist' when I saw it, and someone else had to explain to me why it was; then again, I didn't know anything about the candidates or the race. It does bother me, though, that having deployed such an ad, absolutely no one is at least taking responsibility for it. Quote:
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They needed to go a step farther when they wrote the campaign finance laws a few years ago. They should have said that any ad by any group had to have the candidate appear and say they approve this message. I don't believe for a second that the strategists at the top level of either side don't have a part in deciding what goes in these negative ads.
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Maybe to lighten it up a bit, perhaps he can have some celeb with a fatal illness make and ad that states if you vote for a certain candidate, your fatal illness or condition would be cured.
As for the Ford ad, all of that was based on his actual votes and a Roll Call magazine ad (Feb 2006). Yeah, its sleazy, but its par for the course in politics. Always has been, always will be |
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Canada, who is not busy, currently has a bunch of troops in Southern Afghanistan, fighting against the Taliban. The death rate of Canadian troops deployed in Afghanistan is 6 times greater than the death rate of American troops deployed in Iraq.
Canada is busy -- fighting a war against the remnants of the nation-state that actually was the home base of Bin Laden. I'm glad to know how much Americans appreciate the help. |
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Wow.......
But then if you look at the Ford ad on Corker it isn't much better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3UKq...elated&search= It's really sad instead of showing differences between them, moving forward but allowing the people to decide which way to move forward, we have politicians that would rather focus on the negatives and maintain partisan hatred and stereotypes. Quote:
MERCI BEAUCOUP, THANK YOU CANADA....... some of us down south of you appreciate all you do for us. :thumbsup: |
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ima...r_Radio_Ad.mp3
Here's the next "laugh" from the Tennessee Senate campaign. Some commentators are pointing out that every time Ford is mentioned, there are "jungle drums" behind the narrator, and every time Corker is mentioned, it's angelic strings and choir. I'm not sure I'd characterize the Ford music as "jungle drums", myself, but it's interesting to notice how the producers of this spot used "evil" and "good" music. |
Wait wait wait. This guy is from Tennessee right?
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YW pan.
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Are you talking about air transport, blue water navies, nuclear bombs, economic entanglement, logistics - or what? Your complaint is more than a bit hand wavy and vague. |
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I'm not a fan of Canadians having US air power overhead, your airmen seem to be either blind or stupid as they keep dropping bombs on our soldiers. Maybe they didn't get the memo the Taliban is the enemy. Nice to see you take shots at your 'ally' in The War Against Terror, I can hardly figure out why people think yanks are arrogant:rolleyes: |
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And sure, they don't have long range bombers, but they have the F-18... and that's a damn good plane. The only difference is our F-18s have the carrier support in which they don't... and even then it takes a huge logistical nightmare network to keep those birds in the air. Canada does not have the GDP to support such an undertaking. The fact that they are over there speaks volumes about their loyalty and friendship. Quote:
They've discovered a problem which caused many of the incidents, same problem which killed many American soldiers. There is a GPS measuring device which reads it's current exact location, then you look through a scope where you want the bomb to go. It sends a lazer and reads the XYZ axises and determines your target's exact location. You then hit a button and it sends the GPS site to a plane overhead, and it then guides itself there. Unfortuantely the manufacturer made an engineering error, if the batteries run out and you have to change them it reset's your target's location to your own upon re-booting. So it took a couple of times to realize our (both US/Canadian) troops were requesting air strikes on themselves. But thanks for calling our airmen blind or stupid, you're welcome for the other 99% of successful airstrikes. |
Back to the campaign:
Many of the ads on both sides are laughable until you consider: Quote:
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NCB you really need to stop flame baiting in every post. It is getting old. Start acting like an adult and stop with the immature attacks.
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A very true and honorable post, Seaver. I second your statement. :)
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My dad was a Lt. Commander, in the late '80s to early '90s he was part of a transfer system and served under the Canadian Forces (trade system for cross-training). I spent 4 years in Canada, and got to know their military very well. From Ottowa to Cold Lake I had the opportunity to see most of the country visiting my father on deployments.
The primary difference is not the bravery or professionalism, but in the planned military objectives and budget. The fact that we have killed somthing like 22 of their soldiers in 2 months and their military still desire to stay in Afghanistan to help us speaks volumes. ..... Though we still reserve the right to make fun of Canada as an equal opportunity offender. :thumbsup: Update... http://www.wonkette.com/politics/kid...ism-180720.php Quote:
http://www.wonkette.com/assets/2006/...erfacebook.jpg http://www.wonkette.com/assets/2006/...facebook02.jpg (She's the one behind the panties-girl) Now I've never judged a person by his family... god knows mine is as crazy as any of them. But the door was opened by the republicans, and he honestly can't say he didnt have a say on what went on. |
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It's shit like that that makes me sick. Quote:
We rent Russian Antonovs for transport because they are better than anything made in the USA. Quote:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/fr...ire/media.html http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...1103/20051103/ |
This negative advertising is getting lame. I think both the state and federal government should make laws that make negative advertising in elections illegal. Seriously tell us what you are about not what others are about. Let the press report what bad things the canidates have done, at least they have some obligation to check and report the facts. I hate this part of the year because the TV becomes a bunch of tabliods and the sad part is people believe all the crap they see. What kind of messed up world do we live in where the people who we choose to represent us are the ones who can lie, cheat, and decieve the best.
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didn't they pass something saying that you had to disclose the side effects if you told what the drug was for....
i really think they need to pass something similar for politics. Seriously, that ad against Ford said absolutely NOTHING about the person running against him. It's getting old. very old. and i get to vote absentee tomorrow :) |
I see nothing wrong with the ad. Maybe I'm missing out on how it's racist, though?
For those who dislike it, that's McCain-Feingold in action. Money that can't go straight to a political canidate goes to attack groups who aren't legally allowed to endorse anyone instead. Money is speech. Finance Reform told us we couldn't talk-up one guy too much, so we're talking down the others instead. |
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Look negative campaign adds have not gotten worse, they used to be so bad opponents would have a gunfight over what was said. Hate them if you want, but they work (if done properly, not like this one). And preventing said opportunities to state why an opponent is not fit for a job would be drastic infringement of his rights. |
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