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Originally Posted by stevo
I'm sorry rocah, but that doesn't do it for me. What I just read was a lesson on what the National Front is in France. <b>Where fjordman fits in, I'm not so sure.</b> I suppose you are saying he's a member of the National Front. Ok. He very well could be. Does that make him racist? and if he is a member, does that make the blog racist? What I asked for were excerpts from the blog that show racism, not even overtly, they can just elude to it, or be racist from your POV, but I would like to know which memes those are.
In addition, do you think we're at war with islamofascists? If not, why not? Anyone?
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stevo, I tried to show in other posts, who is most enthusiastic about fjordman's writing. Consider who his message attracts. For example, I make it a rule to always take the opposite POV of a David Horowitz (FrontPageMag), or L. Brent Bozell III, and this strategy has served me well. Here is what "Bill" says about fjordman and his "message":
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...e.asp?ID=20646
Western Muslims' Racist Rape Spree
By Sharon Lapkin
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 27, 2005
Western Muslims' Racist Rape Spree
By Sharon Lapkin
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 27, 2005
In Australia, Norway, Sweden and other Western nations, there is a distinct race-based crime in motion being ignored by the diversity police: Islamic men are raping Western women for ethnic reasons. We know this because the rapists have openly declared their sectarian motivations.
When a number of teenage Australian girls were subjected to hours of sexual degradation during a spate of gang rapes in Sydney that occurred between 1998 and 2002, the perpetrators of these assaults framed their rationale in ethnic terms. The young victims were informed that they were “sluts” and “Aussie pigs” while they were being hunted down and abused.
In Australia's New South Wales Supreme Court in December 2005, a visiting Pakistani rapist testified that his victims had no right to say no, because they were not wearing a headscarf.
And earlier this year Australians were outraged when Lebanese Sheik Faiz Mohammed gave a lecture in Sydney where he informed his audience that rape victims had no one to blame but themselves. Women, he said, who wore skimpy clothing, invited men to rape them.
A few months earlier, in Copenhagen, Islamic mufti and scholar, Shahid Mehdi created uproar when – like his peer in Australia – he stated that women who did not wear a headscarf were asking to be raped.
And with haunting synchronicity in 2004, the London Telegraph reported that visiting Egyptian scholar Sheik Yusaf al-Qaradawi claimed female rape victims should be punished if they were dressed immodestly when they were raped. He added, “For her to be absolved from guilt, a raped woman must have shown good conduct.”
<b>In Norway and Sweden, journalist Fjordman warns of a rape epidemic.</b> Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen stated that the steady increase of rape-cases and the link to ethnicity are clear, unmistakable trends. Two out of three persecutions for rape in Oslo are immigrants with a non-Western background and 80 percent of the victims are Norwegian women.
In Sweden, according to translator for Jihad Watch, Ali Dashti, “Gang rapes, usually involving Muslim immigrant males and native Swedish girls, have become commonplace.” A few weeks ago she said, “Five Kurds brutally raped a 13-year-old Swedish girl.”
In France, Samira Bellil broke her silence – after enduring years of repeated gang rapes in one of the Muslim populated public housing projects – and wrote a book, In the hell of the tournantes, that shocked France. Describing how gang rape is rampant in the banlieues, she explained to Time that, “any neighborhood girl who smokes, uses makeup or wears attractive clothes is a whore.”
Unfortunately, Western women are not the only victims in this epidemic. In Indonesia, in 1998, human rights groups documented the testimony of over 100 Chinese women who were gang raped during the riots that preceded the fall of President Suharto. Many of them were told: “You must be raped, because you are Chinese and non-Muslim.”
Christian Solidarity Worldwide reported that in April 2005, a 9-year-old Pakistani girl was raped, beaten with a cricket bat, hanged upside down from the ceiling, had spoonfuls of chillies poured into her mouth, and repeatedly bashed while handcuffed. Her Muslim neighbours told her they were taking revenge for the American bombing of Iraqi children and informed her they were doing it because she was an “infidel and a Christian.”
In Sudan – where Arab Muslims slaughter black Muslim and Christian Sudanese in an ongoing genocide – former Sudanese slave and now a human rights’ activist Simon Deng says he witnessed girls and women being raped and that the Arab regime of Khartoum sends its soldiers to the field to rape and murder. In other reports, women who are captured by government forces are asked; “Are you Christian or Muslim?” and those who answer Christian, are gang raped before having their breasts cut off.
This phenomenon of Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the urgent, violent, repressive epidemic it is. Instead, journalists, academics, and politicians ignore it, rationalize it, or ostracize those who dare discuss it.
In Australia, when journalist Paul Sheehan reported honestly on the Sydney gang rapes, he was called a racist and accused of stirring up anti-Muslim hatred. And when he reported in his Sydney Morning Herald column that there was a high incidence of crime amongst Sydney’s Lebanese community, fellow journalist, David Marr sent him an e-mail stating, “That is a disgraceful column that reflects poorly on us all at the Herald.”
Keysar Trad, vice-president of the Australian Lebanese Muslim Association said the gang rapes were a “heinous” crime but complained it was “rather unfair” that the ethnicity of the rapists had been reported.
Journalist Miranda Devine reported during the same rape trials that all reference to ethnicity had been deleted from the victim impact statement because the prosecutors wanted to negotiate a plea bargain.
So when Judge Megan Latham declared, “There is no evidence before me of any racial element in the commission of these offences,” everyone believed her. And the court, the politicians and most of the press may as well have raped the girls again.
Retired Australian detective Tim Priest warned in 2004 that the Lebanese gangs, which emerged in Sydney in the 1990s – when the police were asleep – had morphed out of control. “The Lebanese groups,” he said, “ were ruthless, extremely violent, and they intimidated not only innocent witnesses, but even the police that attempted to arrest them.”
Priest describes how in 2001, in a Muslim dominated area of Sydney two policemen stopped a car containing three well-known Middle Eastern men to search for stolen property. As the police carried out their search they were physically threatened and the three men claimed they were going to track them down, kill them and then rape their girlfriends.
According to Priest, it didn’t end there. As the Sydney police called for backup the three men used their mobile phones to call their associates, and within minutes, 20 Middle Eastern men arrived on the scene. They punched and pushed the police and damaged state vehicles. The police retreated and the gang followed them to the police station where they intimidated staff, damaged property and held the police station hostage.
Eventually the gang left, the police licked their wounds, and not one of them took action against the Middle Eastern men. Priest claims, “In the minds of the local population, the police are cowards and the message was, 'Lebanese [Muslim gangs] rule the streets.'”
In France, in the banlieues, where gang rape is now known simply as tournantes or ‘pass-around,’ victims know the police will not protect them. If they complain, Samir Bellil said, they know that they and their families will be threatened.
However, Muslim women in the French ghettos are finally fighting back against gang rape and police non-action. They have begun a movement called, “We’re neither whores nor doormats.” They are struggling against the intrinsic violence that plagues their neighbourhoods and the culture that condones it.
In most French prosecutions, the Muslim rapists state that they do not believe they have committed a crime. And in a frightening parallel with the gang rapists in Australia, they claim the victim herself is to blame and accuse her of being a “slut” or a “whore.”
According to The Guardian, during the recent French riots, a Saudi Prince with shares in News Corporation boasted to a conference in Dubai that he had phoned Rupert Murdoch and complained about Fox News describing the disturbances as “Muslim riots.” Within half an hour he said, it was changed to “civil riots.”
Swedish translator, Ali Dashti, stated that in Sweden when three men raped a 22-year-old woman recently, they said one word to her. “Whore.” Such stories, according to Dashti, are in the Swedish newspapers every week. And, the politically correct “take great care not to mention the ethnic background of the perpetrators.”
Sweden’s English newspaper The Local reported in July that Malmo police commander Bengt Lindström had been charged with inciting racial hatred. He sent e-mails from his home computer to two city officials. To the head of healthcare, he wrote: “You...treat old Swedes who have worked hard building up the fatherland like parasites and would rather give my taxes to criminals called Mohammed from Rosengärd.”
In Malmo, the third largest city in Sweden, the police have admitted, Dashti says, that they no longer control the city. “It is effectively ruled by violent gangs of Muslim immigrants.” Ambulance personnel are regularly attacked and spat upon and are now refusing to help until a police escort arrives. The police are too afraid to enter parts of the city without backup.
In early 2005, Norwegian newspapers reported that Oslo had recorded the highest ever number of rape cases in the previous twelve months. However, Fjordman explained, the official statistics contained no data regarding “how immigrants were grossly over represented in rape cases”, and the media remain so strangely silent.
Oslo Professor of Anthropology, Unni Wikan, said Norwegian women must take responsibility for the fact that Muslim men find their manner of dress provocative. And since these men believe women are responsible for rape, she stated, the women must adapt to the multicultural society around them.
The BBC pulled a documentary scheduled for screening in 2004, after police in Britain warned it could increase racial tension. “In these exceptional circumstances... Channel 4 as a responsible broadcaster has agreed to the police’s request...” The documentary was to show how Pakistani and other Muslim men sexually abused young, white English girls as young as 11.
The number of rapes committed by Muslim men against women in the last decade is so incredibly high that it cannot be viewed as anything other than culturally implicit behaviour. It is overtly reinforced and sanctioned by Islamic religious leaders who blame the victims and excuse the rapists.
In three decades of immigration into Western countries, Islam has caused social upheaval and havoc in every one of its host countries. No other immigration program has encountered the problems of non-assimilation and religious ambiguity.
Everywhere in the world, Muslims are in conflict with their neighbours. And as Mark Steyn recently said, every conflict appears to have originated by someone with the name of Mohammed.
In July 2005, Melbourne Sheik Mohammad Omran told Sixty Minutes that “...we believe we have more rights than you because we choose Australia to be our home and you didn’t. “
In the same interview visiting Sheik Khalid Yasin warned “There’s no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend, so a non-Muslim could be your associate but they can't be a friend. They're not your friend because they don't understand your religious principles and they cannot because they don't understand your faith.”
Despite being told over and over by Islamic scholars, and witnessing massive influxes of Islamic crime, Western countries continue to believe in the reality of assimilation and moral relativism.
In Australia, Lebanese Christians have assimilated and become a respected part of our community. The Premier of Victoria is a Lebanese Christian as is the Governor Of New South Wales. However, Lebanese Muslims have encountered serious problems because of their refusal to accept our right to live our way of life. Nothing so clearly demonstrates that it is not an issue of race — but of culture.
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The preceding "article" os critiqued here:
http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/d...6-ce125d8e5dcd
Here is one of several posts by "Bill", he says in his post that follows this one that he is a longtime employee of the SF Chronicle:
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http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/d...1-ee34734c8b3a
Re: politics, media, ethnicity
Tue, December 27, 2005 - 11:17 PM
What do I think about this article. Let's see:
1) It enumerates numerous instances of hideous acts but fails to give a single citation that would allow the reader to backtrack and look at the original source that reported the "incident" or verify that it actually had occurred.
<b>2) It quotes "journalist Fjordman" without saying where his quote appeared, who he is or when and where any of the alleged incidents he claims as a "rape epidemic" occurred. In fact, "journalist Fjordman" is an European blogger whose site seems to consist mostly of second hand posts complaining about Muslims and the Middle East. Fjordman's blog, incidentally, has been quoted admiringly by no less an objective source than StormFront.org, the Neo Nazi organization that sports the slogan "White Pride World Wide."</b>
3) It offers several remarks that were allegedly made by Muslim clerics without giving the context in which these statements were made or any details that would allow one to determine whether they had been made at all.
And that is just for starters.
This "article" contains a string of highly tendentious statements purporting to show a reign of terror by Muslims against women, but fails to offer enough detail about any of them so that a person could actually verify they had occurred.
But to be fair, I did a little checking, which is certainly a lot more than the average lazy and gullible reader of FrontPage "magazine" is likely to do.
The first thing I found out is that one of the key sources for the article is a website called Faithfreedom.org, which equates all Islam with terrorism. In fact, the organization's website states, simply:
"Islamic terrorism is inspired by Islamic teachings. We can never get rid of Islamic terrorism unless we defeat the ideology behind it and that is Islam itself."
It also calls the Quran: "The source of hate, violence and Islamic terrorism."
Faithfreedom.org is about as dispassionate and objective a source of news about Islam and its adherents as Tom Metzger's White Aryan Resistance website is of dispassionate and objective news about blacks and Jews.
So then I turned to the author of the FrontPage article, Sharon Lapkin.
Well, it turns out that she is a former Australian Army Officer and a postgraduate student at the University of Melbourne. At least, that's according to her bio in FrontPage Magazine.
This incredibly terse bio -- which does not state what Lapkin's military specialty was, what rank she held, how long she served or where she was posted -- raises more questions than it answers.
I ran her name through the University of Melbourne's website and found out that Ms. Lapkin is in the English department at the University and wrote a piece on the UN's failures that was published in the Herald Sun newspaper in November of this year.
The Herald Sun is a Rupert Murdoch rag in Australia, for those who are not familiar. You remember Murdoch, don't you? He is the guy who brought you "fair and balanced news."
Although the University website doesn't mention it, Lapkin has also written an article in FrontPage that unflatteringly compared Australian aborigines to bomb-packing Palestinian terrorists -- primarily so she could spend most of the article beating up on the Palestinians. And not just the bomb-packing sort, either. All Palestinians in the occupied territories.
Judging from the surly tone and hyperbolic nature of the article, it is apparent that Ms. Lapkin has some "issues" with people of middle eastern descent.
Could it be that the mysterious Sharon Lapkin is related to Ted Lapkin, director of policy analysis for the Australia Israel and Jewish Affairs Council, which is also headquartered in Melbourne?
Possibly not, but the name and situs hookup is an interesting coincidence. Also the fact that AIJAC regularly rails against Islamic extremism. And that its leader and Ted Lapkin's boss, Colin Rubenstein, has had opinion pieces on the Middle East published in -- ta da! -- Rubert Murdoch's Herald Sun newspaper.
Whatever her background may be, Lapkin's piece is a very badly put together hatchet job that largely depends on unnamed sources and underidentified incidents.
The sources that are actually named in the piece are uniformly dubious:
* Tim Priest, a retired New South Wales police sergeant who has made a good second career for himself slogging the menace of ethnic criminal syndicates to his fellow Aussies and whipping up public hysteria about the alleged criminality of Australians of Middle Eastern heritage.
* "Translator Ali Dashti," who, it turns out, works for another anti-Muslim website, Dhimmi Watch, which was founded by Robert Spencer, an "expert" on Islam for the right-wing Free Congress Foundation.
* And Mark Steyn, the knuckle-dragging Canadian "humorist" who was described by The Boston Phoenix as "the most toxic right wing pundit you've never heard of."
Honestly, folks. This "article" is as loaded as a Saturday night special in the hands of a convenience store holdup artist.
If you believe anything it says, I can put you in touch with one of my Nigerian pen pals who has a bunch of money he would like you to help him get out of his country...
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stevo, we've pointed you toward information and opinion that shows what "fjordman" is about, and who his message appeals to. Horowitz's approval of fjordman and the "message" is "telling". You've obviously bought into thinking that is, charitably described as "counterproductive". It's up to you to decide if you want to continue to embrace it, or not. I cannot stress enough that you should consider who your fellow "believers" are. IMO, they do not seem like folks who are all that trustworthy or accurate in what they say and do, and in their past agendas. |
10-08-2006, 07:51 AM
