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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Yes sorry host, I believe Bush, the senate, the house, my own eyes and and countless others over your analysis and the other conspiracy types.
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Please pick any of the following points and citations and explain how they relate to reality of conspiracy.....
In this post http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...38&postcount=5
in the "al-Farquq escapes" thread, I provided news reports that indicate that an alleged "al-Qaeda's "top man" in Asia", Omar al-Faruq, was captured by Indonesian forces in 2002, swiftly turned over to the US, "rendered" to an undisclosed CIA prsion, then transferred to a US prsion in Bagram, Afghanisatan, where he escaped from a high security facility with "3 other prisoners". He was shot in Basra, Iraq, in Sept., 2006, and one of the other 3 Bagram escapees, turned up in OCtober, 2006, described as a "top al-Qaeda terrorist", calling publicly for terrorist attacks on "the White House".
I also documented that the president Bush declared in 2002 that there were nmerous "terrorist sleeper cells" to be tracked down in the US, the FBI director Mueller, in 2005, said that the lack of discovery of "sleeper cells" in the US was the thing that concerned him most.
New DCI "Czar". John Negroponte testified to a senate committee in Feb., 2006 about only one "sleeper cell"...in Lodi, CA....reported months later by PBS Frontline to be a harmless Pakistani immigrant ice cream truck driver, Mr. Hayat, and his equally harmless, but unwitting, son.....
A recent NIE disclosed an assessment that the US war in Iraq was actually strengthening the terrroist threat, instead of weakening it.
Mr. Bush appointed John Negroponte, with this as Negroponte's background:
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http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB151/index.htm
THE NEGROPONTE FILE
NEGROPONTE'S CHRON FILE FROM TENURE IN HONDURAS POSTED
National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 151 - Part 1
Edited by Peter Kornbluh
April 12 , 2005
<a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB151/index2.htm">[Go to Part 2]</a>
Close Relations with Honduran Military,
Contra "Special Project" Against Nicaraguan Sandinistas
Dominated Cable Traffic
Reporting on Human Rights Violations Nonexistent between 1982 and 1984
(President George W. Bush nominated John Negroponte as the first Director of National Intelligence on February 17, 2005.) (Source: White House)
Washington D.C., April 12, 2005 - As the Senate Intelligence Committee convenes to consider the nomination of John Negroponte to be Director of National Intelligence, the National Security Archive today posted hundreds of his cables written from the U.S. Embassy in Tegucigalpa between late 1981 and 1984. The majority of his "chron file"- cables and memos written during his tenure as Ambassador- was obtained by the Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act. The documents were actually declassified at Negroponte's request in June 1998, after he had temporarily retired from the Foreign Service.
The 392 cables and memos record Negroponte's daily, and even hourly, activities as the powerful Ambassador to Honduras during the contra war in the early 1980s. They include dozens of cables in which the Ambassador sought to undermine regional peace efforts such as the Contadora initiative that ultimately won Costa Rican president Oscar Arias a Nobel Prize, as well as multiple reports of meetings and conversations with Honduran military officers who were instrumental in providing logistical support and infrastructure for CIA covert operations in support of the contras against Nicaragua -"our special project" as Negroponte refers to the contra war in the cable traffic. <b>Among the records are special back channel communications with then CIA director William Casey, including a recommendation to increase the number of arms being supplied to the leading contra force, the FDN in mid 1983, and advice on how to rewrite a Presidential finding on covert operations to overthrow the Sandinistas to make it more politically palatable to an increasingly uneasy U.S. Congress.
Conspicuously absent from the cable traffic, however, is reporting on human rights atrocities that were committed by the Honduran military and its secret police unit known as Battalion 316, between 1982 and 1984, under the military leadership of General Gustavo Alvarez, Negroponte's main liaison with the Honduran government. The Honduran human rights ombudsman later found that more than 50 people disappeared at the hands of the military during those years. But Negroponte's cables reflect no protest, or even discussion of these issues during his many meetings with General Alvarez, his deputies and Honduran President Robert Suazo. Nor do the released cables contain any reporting to Washington on the human rights abuses that were taking place.</b>
Today's posting by the National Security Archive includes the complete series of cables released under the Freedom of Information Act. The State Department released another several dozen cables from the series yesterday, and these are available in Part 2 of this posting.
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http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=2386
| Posted 05/06/2005 @ 11:50am
From Iran-contra to Iraq
<b>......James Steele was recently featured in a New York Times Magazine story as a top adviser to Iraq's "most fearsome counterinsurgency force,"
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http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0503/dailyUpdate.html
posted May 3, 2005, updated 12:56 p.m.
Adapting to shifting sands of battle in Iraq
US and Iraqi forces adjust to combat changing insurgent tactics.
....<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/01/magazine/01ARMY.html?ei=5090&en=831a22b7e549a670&ex=1272686400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pa">The New York Times reports</a> that Iraqi forces are adapting new ways to deal with insurgents. As the Times reports, former members of Saddam Hussein's security forces, originally dismissed by the US-led Coalition Provisional Authority shortly after Hussein's Baathist regime was toppled, are now being relied on more heavily than before. The Times profiles General Adnan, the Sunni leader of "Iraq's most fearsome counterinsurgency force," the 5,000-strong Special Police Commandos.
In a country of tough guys, Adnan Thabit may be the toughest of all. He was both a general and a death-row prisoner under Saddam Hussein. He favors leather jackets no matter the weather, his left index finger extends only to the knuckle (the rest was sliced off in combat) and he responds to requests from supplicants with grunts that mean 'yes' or 'no.' Occasionally, a humble aide approaches to spray perfume on his hands, which he wipes over his rugged face.
As part of his no-nonsense approach to combating the insurgency, Mr. Thabit played a key role in launching the popular Iraqi reality TV show 'Terrorism in the Grip of Justice,' which has "proved to be one of the most effective psychological operations of the war," according to the Times.
The insurgents, or suspected insurgents, on 'Terrorism in the Grip of Justice' come off as cowardly lowlifes who kill for money rather than patriotism or Allah. They tremble on camera, stumble over their words and look at the ground as they confess to everything from contract murders to sodomy......
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an outfit called the Special Police Commandos that numbers about 5000 troops. The article, by Peter Maass, noted that Steele "honed his tactics leading a Special Forces mission in El Salvador during that country's brutal civil war in the 1980s."</b> And, as Maass reminded his readers, that civil war resulted in the deaths of 70,000 people, mostly civilians, and "[m]ost of the killing and torturing was done by the army and right-wing death squads affiliated with it." The army that did all that killing in El Salvador was supported by the United States and US military officials such as Steele, who was head of the US military assistance group in El Salvador for two years in the mid-1980s. (A 1993 UN truth commission, which examined 22,000 atrocities that occurred during the twelve-year civil war in El Salvador, attributed 85 percent of the abuses to the US-backed El Salvador military and its death-squad allies.)
Maass reported that the Special Forces advisers in El Salvador led by Steele "trained front-line battalions that were accused of significant human rights abuses." But he neglected to mention that Steele ran afoul of the Iran-contra investigators for not being honest about his role in the covert and illegal contra-support operation.
After the Iran-contra story broke in 1986, Steele was questioned by Iran-contra investigators, who had good reason to seek information from him. The secret contra-supply network managed by Oliver North had flown weapons and supplies to the contras out of Illopongo Air Base in El Salvador. Steele claimed that he had observed the North network in action but that he had never assisted it. The evidence didn't support this assertion. For one, North had given Steele a special coding device that allowed encrypted communications to be sent securely over telephone lines. Why did Steele need this device if he had nothing to do with the operation? And for a time Steele passed this device to Felix Rodriguez, one of North's key operatives in El Salvador. Furthermore, Congressional investigators discovered evidence indicating that aviation fuel given to El Salvador under a US military aid program that Steele supervised was illegally sold to the North network. (The Reagan administration refused to respond to congressional inquiries about this oil deal.) And according to the accounts of others, Steele had made sure that the North network's planes, used to ferry weapons to the contras, could come and go from Illopongo.......
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....and of course, there is this:
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http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2...ers/120246.txt
<B>Iraqi fundamentalists not our only enemy</B>
Individuals determined by the federal government to be involved in terrorist activities may be detained indefinitely without the right to know the charges against them, have legal representation or have a speedy trial. This means if the government suspects you or me of being involved with terrorist activities, we have no legal rights to prove we are innocent.
The government can eavesdrop on our calls without warrants and randomly open mail - that recently happened to a relative of mine. The government recently acquired from several phone companies' mass files on their customers' phone usage.
The government has determined that it does not need to follow the Geneva Conventions if it chooses to torture prisoners outside of U.S. soil. It has determined that certain torture, determined by them as appropriate, may be used.
These human rights to representation, privacy and freedom from torture have been taken away in the name of the ``War on Terrorism.''
The enemy to be feared is not just the Iraqi fundamentalists, but our own right-wing, Republican-controlled government, put in place in part by a strong Christian fundamentalist movement.
The three branches of government put into place as checks and balances are controlled by the same far right-wing Republican government.....
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.....so, what is it that causes your complacency, your defense of Mr. Bush and his GWOT?
If you have one, I would be grateful to see it posted...... |
10-25-2006, 05:12 AM
