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The 14 Worst Corporations
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The 14 Worst Corporatations By A Global Exchange Report Posted on December 12, 2005 http://www.alternet.org/story/29337/...g/story/29337/ Corporations carry out some of the most horrific human rights abuses of modern times, but it is increasingly difficult to hold them to account. Economic globalization and the rise of transnational corporate power have created a favorable climate for corporate human rights abusers, which are governed principally by the codes of supply and demand and show genuine loyalty only to their stockholders. Several of the companies below are being sued under the Alien Tort Claims Act, a law that allows citizens of any nationality to sue in US federal courts for violations of international rights or treaties. When corporations act like criminals, we have the right and the power to stop them, holding leaders and multinational corporations alike to the accords they have signed. Around the world--in Venezuela, Argentina, India, and right here in the United States--citizens are stepping up to create democracy and hold corporations accountable to international law. Caterpillar For years, the Caterpillar Company has provided Israel with the bulldozers used to destroy Palestinian homes. Despite worldwide condemnation, Caterpillar has refused to end its corporate participation house demolition by cutting off sales of specially modified D9 and D10 bulldozers to the Israeli military. In a letter to Caterpillar CEO James Owens, The Office of the UN High Commissioner on Human Rights said: "allowing the delivery of your ... bulldozers to the Israeli army ... in the certain knowledge that they are being used for such action, might involve complicity or acceptance on the part of your company to actual and potential violations of human rights..." Peace activist Rachel Corrie was killed by a Caterpillar D-9, military bulldozer in 2003. She was run over while attempting to block the destruction a family's home in Gaza. Her family filed suit against Caterpillar in March 2005 charging that Caterpillar knowingly sold machines used to violate human rights. Since Corrie's death at least three more Palestinians have been killed in their homes by Israeli bulldozer demolitions. Chevron The petrochemical company Chevron is guilty of some of the worst environmental and human rights abuses in the world. From 1964 to 1992, Texaco (which transferred operations to Chevron after being bought out in 2001) unleashed a toxic "Rainforest Chernobyl" in Ecuador by leaving over 600 unlined oil pits in pristine northern Amazon rainforest and dumping 18 billion gallons of toxic production water into rivers used for bathing water. Llocal communities have suffered severe health effects, including cancer, skin lesions, birth defects, and spontaneous abortions. Chevron is also responsible for the violent repression of peaceful opposition to oil extraction. In Nigeria, Chevron has hired private military personnel to open fire on peaceful protestors who oppose oil extraction in the Niger Delta. Additionally Chevron is responsible for widespread health problems in Richmond, California, where one of Chevron's largest refineries is located. Processing 350,000 barrels of oil a day, the Richmond refinery produces oil flares and toxic waste in the Richmond area. As a result, local residents suffer from high rates of lupus, skin rashes, rheumatic fever, liver problems, kidney problems, tumors, cancer, asthma, and eye problems. The Unocal Corporation, which recently became a subsidiary of Chevron, is an oil and gas company based in California with operations around the world. In December 2004, the company settled a lawsuit filed by 15 Burmese villagers, in which the villagers alleged Unocal's complicity in a range of human rights violations in Burma, including rape, summary execution, torture, forced labor and forced migration. Coca-Cola Coca-Cola Company is perhaps the most widely recognized corporate symbol on the planet. The company also leads in the abuse of workers' rights, assassinations, water privatization, and worker discrimination. Between 1989 and 2002, eight union leaders from Coca-Cola bottling plants in Colombia were killed after protesting the company's labor practices. Hundreds of other Coca-Cola workers who have joined or considered joining the Colombian union SINALTRAINAL have been kidnapped, tortured, and detained by paramilitaries who are hired to intimidate workers to prevent them from unionizing. In India, Coca-Cola destroys local agriculture by privatizing the country's water resources. In Plachimada, Kerala, Coca-Cola extracted 1.5 million liters of deep well water, which they bottled and sold under the names Dasani and BonAqua. The groundwater was severely depleted, affecting thousands of communities with water shortages and destroying agricultural activity. As a result, the remaining water became contaminated with high chloride and bacteria levels, leading to scabs, eye problems, and stomach aches in the local population. Coca-Cola is also one of the most discriminatory employers in the world. In the year 2000, 2,000 African-American employees in the U.S. sued the company for race-based disparities in pay and promotions. Dow Chemical Dow Chemical has been destroying lives and poisoning the planet for decades. The company is best known for the ravages and health disaster for millions of Vietnamese and U.S. Veterans caused by its lethal Vietnam War defoliant, Agent Orange. Dow also developed and perfected Napalm, a brutal chemical weapon that burned many innocents to death in Vietnam and other wars. In 1988, Dow provided pesticides to Saddam Hussein despite warnings that they could be used to produce chemical weapons. In 2001, Dow inherited the toxic legacy of the worst peacetime chemical disaster in history when it acquired Union Carbide Corporation (UCC) and its outstanding liabilities in Bhopal, India. On Dec. 3, 1984, a chemical leak from a UCC pesticide plant in Bhopal gassed thousands of people to death and left more than 150,000 disabled or dying. Dow still refuses to address its liabilities in Bhopal. Dow Chemical's impact is felt globally from its Midland, Michigan headquarters to New Plymouth, New Zealand. In Midland, Dow has been producing chlorinated chemicals and burning and burying its waste including chemicals that make up Agent Orange. In New Plymouth, 500,000 gallons of Agent Orange were produced and thousands of tons of dioxin-laced waste was dumped in agricultural fields. DynCorp Private security contractors have become the fastest-growing sector of the global economy during the last decade--a $100-billion-a-year, nearly unregulated industry. DynCorp, one of the providers of these mercenary services, demonstrates the industry's power and potential to abuse human rights. While guarding Afghan statesmen and African oil fields, training Iraqi police forces, eradicating Colombian coca plants, and protecting business interests in hurricane-devastated New Orleans, these hired guns bolster the security of governments and organizations at the expense of many people's human rights. DynCorp's fumigation of coca crops along the Colombian-Ecuadorian border led Ecuadorian peasants to sue DynCorp in 2001. Plaintiffs argued that DynCorp knew--or should have known--that the herbicides were highly toxic. In 2001, a mechanic with DynCorp blew the whistle on DynCorp employees in Bosnia for rape and trading girls as young as 12 into sex slavery. According to a lawsuit filed by the mechanic, "employees and supervisors were engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports." DynCorp fired the whistleblower and transferred the employees accused of sex trading out of the country, eventually firing some. None were prosecuted. Ford Motor Company Among automakers, Ford Motor Company is the worst. Every year since 1999, the US Environmental Protection Agency has ranked Ford cars, trucks and SUVs as having the worst overall fuel economy of any American automaker. Ford's current car and truck fleet has a lower average fuel efficiency than the original Ford Model-T. Ford is also in last place when it comes to vehicle greenhouse gas emissions. According to a recent report by the Union of Concerned Scientists, Ford has "the absolute worst heat-trapping gas emissions performance of all the Big Six automakers." Despite the company's recent greenwashing PR campaign, its record has actually worsened. According to Ford's own sustainability report, between 2003 and 2004, the company's US fleet-wide fuel economy decreased and its CO2 emissions went up. Ford has also lobbied against lawmakers' efforts to increase fuel economy standards at the national level and is also involved in a lawsuit against California's fuel economy standards. KBR (Kellogg, Brown and Root): A Subsidiary of Halliburton Corporation KBR is a private company that provides military support services. Notorious for its questionable bookkeeping, dishonest billing practices with US taxpayer dollars and no-bid contracts, KBR has violated human rights on the U.S. dollar. KBR's dubious accounting in Iraq came to light in December 2003 when Pentagon auditors questioned possible overcharges for imported gasoline. In June 2005, a previously secret Pentagon audit criticized $1.4 billion in "questioned" and "unsupported" expenditures. In 2002 the company paid $2 million to settle a Justice Department lawsuit that accused KBR of inflating contract prices at Fort Ord, California. Many third-country national (TCN) laborers have been hired by KBR to "rebuild" Iraq. Generally hailing from impoverished Asian countries, they have unexpectedly become part of the largest civilian workforce ever hired in support of a U.S. war. Once abroad, the workers find themselves with few protections and uncertain legal status. TCNs often sleep in crowded trailers and wait outside in scorching heat for food rations. Many lack adequate medical care and put in hard labor seven days a week, 10 hours or more a day. Lockheed Martin Lockheed Martin is the world's largest military contractor. Providing satellites, planes, missiles and other lethal high-tech items to the Pentagon keeps the profits rolling in. Since 2000, the year Bush was elected, the company's stock value has tripled. As the Center for Corporate Policy (www.corporatepolicy.org) notes, it is no coincidence that Lockheed VP Bruce Jackson--who helped draft the Republican foreign policy platform in 2000--is a key player at the Project for a New American Century, the intellectual incubator of the Iraq war. Lockheed Martin is not the only defense contractor that goes behind the scenes to influence public policy, but it is one of the worst. Stephen J. Hadley, who now has Condoleeza Rice's old job as Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, was formerly a partner in a DC law firm representing Lockheed Martin. He is only one of the beneficiaries of the so-called revolving door between the military industries and the "civilian" national security apparatus. These war profiteers have a profound and illegitimate influence on our country's international policy decisions. Monsanto Monsanto is, by far, the largest producer of genetically engineered seeds in the world, dominating 70% to 100% of the market for crops such as soy, cotton, wheat and corn. Monsanto is the world's leading producer of the herbicide glyphosate, marketed as Roundup. Roundup is sold to small farmers as a pesticide, yet harms crops in the long run as the toxins accumulate in the soil. Plants eventually become infertile, forcing farmers to purchase genetically modified Roundup Ready Seed, a seed that resists the herbicide. This creates a cycle of dependency on Monsanto for both the weed killer and the only seed that can resist it. Both products are patented, and sold at inflated prices. Exposure to the pesticide Roundup Ultra is documented to cause cancers, skin disorders, spontaneous abortions, premature births, and damage to the gastrointestinal and nervous systems. According to the India Committee of the Netherlands and the International Labor Rights Fund, Monsanto also employs child labor. In India, an estimated 12,375 children work in cottonseed production for farmers paid by Indian and multinational seed companies, including Monsanto. Nestle USA The problem of illegal and forced child labor is rampant in the chocolate industry, because more than 40% of the world's cocoa supply comes from the Ivory Coast, a country that the US State Department estimates had approximately 109,000 child laborers working in hazardous conditions on cocoa farms. In 2001, Save the Children Canada reported that 15,000 children between 9 and 12 years old, many from impoverished Mali, had been tricked or sold into slavery on West African cocoa farms, many for just $30 each. Nestle, the third largest buyer of cocoa from the Ivory Coast, is well aware of the tragically unjust labor practices taking place on the farms with which it continues to do business. Nestle and other chocolate manufacturers agreed to end the use of abusive and forced child labor on cocoa farms by July 1, 2005, but they failed to do so. Nestle is also notorious for its aggressive marketing of infant formula in poor countries in the 1980s. Because of this practice, Nestle is still one of the most boycotted corporations in the world, and its infant formula is still controversial. In Italy in 2005, police seized more than two million liters of Nestle infant formula that was contaminated with the chemical isopropylthioxanthone (ITX). Additionally, violations of labor rights are reported from Nestle factories in numerous countries. In Colombia, Nestle replaced the entire factory staff with lower-wage workers and did not renew the collective employment contract. Philip Morris USA and Philip Morris International (a.k.a. The Altria Group Inc.) Among tobacco companies, Philip Morris is notorious. Now called Altria, it is the world's largest and most profitable cigarette corporation and maker of Marlboro, Virginia Slims, Parliament, Basic and many other brands of cigarettes. Documents uncovered in a lawsuit filed against the tobacco industry by the state of Minnesota showed that Philip Morris and other leading tobacco corporations knew very well of the dangers of tobacco products and the addictiveness of nicotine. To this day, Philip Morris deceives consumers about the harm of its products by offering light, mild and low-tar cigarettes that give consumers the illusion these brands are "healthier" than traditional cigarettes. Although the company says it doesn't want kids to smoke, it spends millions of dollars every day marketing and promoting cigarettes to youth. Overseas, it has even hired underage "Marlboro girls" to distribute free cigarettes to other children and sponsored concerts where cigarettes were handed out to minors. As anti-tobacco campaigns and government regulations are slowing tobacco use in Western countries, Philip Morris has aggressively moved into developing country markets, where smoking and smoking-related deaths are on the rise. Preliminary numbers released by the World Health Organization predict global deaths due to smoking-related illnesses will nearly double by 2020, with more than three-quarters of those deaths in the developing world. Pfizer Pfizer is the largest pharmaceutical company in the world; it is also one of the worst abusers of the human right of universal access to HIV/AIDS medicine. In addition to Viagra, Zoloft, Zithromax and Norvasc, Pfizer produces the HIV/AIDS-related drugs Rescriptor, Viracept and Diflucan (fluconazole). Like other drug companies, they sell these drugs at prices poor people cannot afford and aggressively fight efforts to make it easier for generic drugs to enter the market. Pfizer also values shareholder profits over safety standards. In Europe in 2005, it withdrew from scientific studies of a new class of AIDS drugs called CCR5 inhibitors, choosing instead to rush its own untested CCR5 inhibitor onto the European market without full information about the drug's side effects. Suez-Lyonnaise Des Eaux (SLDE) The privatization of water has had a disastrous impact on the human right to clean water, and the French company Suez is the worst perpetrator of this abuse. The company's billions of dollars in profit come at the expense of poor people living in countries where thousands lack access to potable water, and, because of private water contracts, are also facing skyrocketing water prices. Suez goes by many names around the world--Ondeo, SITA and others--to mask its worldwide net of controversial activities. In Manila, Philippines, after seven years of water privatization under a Suez company (Maynilad Water) contract, studies showed that water rates increased in some neighborhoods by 400 to 700 percent. These studies also showed that the negligence of the company resulted in cholera and gastroenteritis outbreaks that killed six people and severely sickened 725 in Manila's Tondo district. In Bolivia, a Suez company (Aguas de Illimani) left 200,000 people without access to water and caused a revolt when it tried to charge between $335 and $445 to connect a private home to the water supply. Countless people were unable to afford this charge in a country whose yearly per capita GDP is $915. Unfortunately, the IMF and World Bank are playing a key role in pushing water privatization all over the world. Many countries have been required to open up their water supply to private companies as a condition for receiving IMF loans, and the World Bank has approved millions of dollars in loans for the privatization of water systems. Wal-Mart Wal-Mart is the biggest corporation in the world. It owns 5,100 stores worldwide and employs 1.3 million workers in the United States and 400,000 abroad, as well as millions more in the factories of its suppliers. Many people have heard of the way that Wal-Mart steamrolls its way into every possible town, destroying local supermarkets and countless small businesses. We have also heard about Wal-Mart's long track record of worker abuse, from forced overtime to sex discrimination to illegal child labor to relentless union busting. Wal-Mart also notoriously fails to provide health insurance to over half of its employees, who are then left to rely on themselves or taxpayers, who provide for a portion of their healthcare needs through government Medicaid. Less well known is the fact that Wal-Mart maintains its low price level by allowing substandard labor conditions at the overseas factories producing most of its goods. The company continually demands lower prices from its suppliers, who, in turn, make more outrageous and abusive demands on their workers in order to meet Wal-Mart's requirements. In September 2005, the International Labor Rights Fund filed a lawsuit on behalf of Wal-Mart supplier sweatshop workers in China, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Nicaragua and Swaziland. The workers were denied minimum wages, forced to work overtime without compensation, and were denied legally mandated health care. Other worker rights violations that have been found in foreign factories that produce goods for Wal-Mart include locked bathrooms, starvation wages, pregnancy tests, denial of access to health care, and workers being fired and blacklisted if they try to defend their rights. *Visit Global Exchange to read the full report of the Most Wanted Corporate Human Rights Violators of 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If this has been previously posted I am sorry, I searched but did not find it. Wow, maybe I am just nieve, but this floored me. I expected Wal-Mart to be much higher up on the list. My dad worked for Coke, for years- On really must think about the consumer products that they are buying, and wonder what the REAL cost is. I am sure that there are more that belong on this list, can you think of any? Do you think that some should not be here? |
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This is taken from PBS' Frontline Columbia-The Pipeline War, November 2002.
http://http://www.pbs.org/frontlinew...corporate.html Coca-Cola The world's most recognized brand, Coca-Cola is also the largest soft-drink maker on the planet. Annual sales: $20 billion Annual income: $2.4 billion CEO and annual executive salary: Douglas N. Daft, $5,000,000 Founded: 1891 Corporate headquarters: Atlanta, Ga. Employees: 37,400 Colombia operations: Coca-Cola has been distributed in Colombia since 1940, and the company's Colombian subsidiary employs 15 workers and 25 contractors. It maintains bottler agreements with 20 independent bottling companies in the country, 17 of which are owned by Panamco. As of 2002, Coca-Cola owned a 25 percent equity interest in Panamco. Panamco has subsidiaries operating in most of Colombia and claims a 94 percent market share. The bottling companies employ approximately 10,000 people directly and an additional 50,000 indirectly. Human rights: Coca-Cola's labor practices in Colombia have become the focus of a recent lawsuit. Filed last July in Florida, the suit alleges that the company was complicit in paramilitary executions of several union leaders organizing at Coca-Cola bottling plants. (Nearly 4,000 trade unionists have been murdered in Colombia since 1986, more than in any other place in the world.) I also googled it and lots came up, but they were mostly from .orgs I had never heard of. So I don't know if these allegations are true. Thats what I am asking here. Maybe I should have put this in "paranoia" ![]() |
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Cookmo...Pose a discussion point and offer your opinion or your thread will be closed by one of the mods. I would hope to look into the information you have posted, but it won't last long if you are unfamiliar with the rules of Politics.
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If this has been previously posted I am sorry, I searched but did not find it. Wow, maybe I am just nieve, but this floored me. I expected Wal-Mart to be much higher up on the list. My dad worked for Coke, for years- On really must think about the consumer products that they are buying, and wonder what the REAL cost is. I am sure that there are more that belong on this list, can you think of any? Do you think that some should not be here?
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Anyhow, I find it pretty scary that this is the way certain companies (Note certain, not all. Just making sure stevo doesn't find me anti-capitalist) do business. From treating their employees like garbage to willfully destroying the environment just to make more money. Sometimes you really loose faith in humanity.
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the first corporation on the list is caterpillar. and because they sell bulldozers to israel. big freaking whoop. Then we have chevron cited for actions that took place over 15 years ago and longer. Something about coca-cola sponsoring assasinations, Dow Chem, again, decades old. Should I continue? Of course halliburton and lockheed martin are thrown in, no anit-capitalist argument is complete without a bash at halliburton or the defense industry. Then the all to common shot at wal-mart. I love this quote
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cop3rationz are teh evil!!!!!!!!111!1!11!
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I guess what I'm trying to say is posting a list titled "14 worst corporations" is not the way to go about anything other than to illustrate your anti-capitalist sentiment.
If you want to go ahead an debate caterpillars sale of bulldozers to israel, go ahead. If you want to open up a thread in paranoia about coca-cola assasinations, be my guest. And if you want to start yet another thread bashing wal-mart, who am I to stop you? So, this thread is nothing more than anti-capitalist flamebait.
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Stevo- I really had no itentions of "anti-capatalist flamebaiting" when I posted this. I posted it because I saw it while surfing and didn't really know what to make of it. Whether it was believable or not. I have real respect for the minds and opinions on this board, and have learned e great deal.
It was easy for me read this and think "those companys are douche bags", but I was almost sure their was more to the story, cause there always is. So I posted it here in hopes of a discussion, nothing more. |
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Look: I'm a business owner and a businessman. I've been in sales all my professional life. I've got nothing against capitalism, I'm all for it. And there is no question whatsoever that large corporations have a unique position and ability to trample and destroy human beings, and should be held accountable for those actions. Hell, if I, a sole proprietor sitting here at my desk, do something that infringes on others' human rights, I'd expect I'd be held accountable! Why, then, do major corporations get a free ride from the Right when they do wrong? This particular list, I'm not so sure. If Caterpillar belongs on the list, so does Volkswagon. |
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I do not shop at Walmart. I do not agree with thier business practices, so my money goes to K-Mart, Target or Shopko. Does it matter? Nope. Walmart isn't going to miss my $74.83. But the point is that it's my $74.83 that they are not getting. Now...if say 390,000 other people (the population of Omaha) gives thier $74.83 to the competitors...then Walmart might take notice of the loss of $29,183,700. But, with annual sales of $244 billion, I kinda doubt it. Still...they didn't get my money, and that's all that matters to me.
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strange that patterns of corporate abuse gets categorised as other than political first, then gets categorized as "anti-capitalist" (how is that not a politics) then gets dismissed as trivial without any insight at all offered as to why. all the more strange given that some of these corporations take this kind of allegation very seriously indeed--perhaps only for pr purposes, but nonetheless.
for example unocal (which was bought by chevron last year) settled a suit of of court regarding its use of the burmese military as "security" for a pipeline project once they lost a series of court cases and found they could be convicted in the states for the crimes committed by the military while in their employ. there is not much argument about what happened in burma: check it out if you for some goofy reason doubt that such abuses happen. one indication of just how seriously some of these firms take the information that surfaces about their practices is that many have undertaken these strange "corporate social responsibility audits" here is a link to a very large database of them posted by global reporting institute, which developed the protocols for these audits. http://www.globalreporting.org/guide...&Submit=Search the audits are quite detailed and some are even forthcoming about problems of information access, enforcing accountability and so forth. you'll find ford, coca cola, nike, chevron and a few others featured above on this list. the audits are available if you click on the box at the far right of the boxes. so if you find yourself with nothing particular to do and want to invest a few hours of your life reading stuff, here is your chance.
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I find it strange that companies like CAT is on a list of worst corporation in the world because they sold products to countries that supposely violates human rights?
It's almost like saying that companies like McDonnell Douglas, Royce Rolls, Diemaco, so on so forth, should be on list of worst corporations of the world simply because they sold products to countries or organizations that ignores human rights? You might as well put McDonalds on the list because they sold a Big Mac to Saddam!
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Most of those corporations, I couldn't say if they are bad or not, cause I only really know what the general public knows and what is said about them in the news. Of course Im not going to buy everything that website says, obviously they are pushing their own agenda.
I will say, being a ex-navy aircraft mechanic Lockheed Martin doesnt belong on that list. "Providing satellites, planes, missiles and other lethal high-tech items to the Pentagon keeps the profits rolling in." It the industry they are in, if they are not going to do, someone else is. The product they produce sure lethal, but they keep us safe, and is that really bad enough to make this list? NASA uses components developed by lockheed Martin, is furthering our space program qualify them to be in the 14 worst. I dont think so.
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Edit: Picture it like this: You make and distribute guns. Your intent is to make a good that can 1) protect someone who is being attacked, and 2) provide hunters with the tools of their trade or hobby. Now when you are ready to distribute, you sell to several hunting companies and a few self defence shops. You do well. A man from Nigeria approaces you and offers you a good deal for your guns. You go home and google the person's name and find out that he is a warlord who is responsible for genicide. Option A) You decide that selling him the weapons is simply business, and that what he does with his legally purchased guns is his business. Condem what he does, but it's certianally not my responsibility. Option B) You don't want blood on your hands, or on the hands of your customers. You make the decision to deny the money, and the problems. Caterpillar chose option A. Last edited by Willravel; 07-10-2006 at 11:01 AM.. |
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the ethics of the international arms trade are obviously suspect.
that a firm like lockheed martin would be part of it is clear---that not all aspects of lockheed martin's production is directly tied to this trade is also pretty obvious, if you think about it a little. think about it more and things get blurry again. whether there should be an international arms trade--whether private firms should be allowed to sell weapons/weapons systems on the open market--thereby endangering lives and contributing to all kinds of bad outcomes--is an important question. under present conditions, if a firm decides to play that game, and explicitly to subordinate human life to profit, they should be prepared to take any and all criticism that attends it. there is no more obscene dimension of capitalism than the international arms trade, no place in which the fact that profit overrides human dignity--and survival--is more clear. (sorry will--we must have been posting almost simultaneously--these say about the same thing...)
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I dont know should be throw IMB on this list? Was it a year ago or so that they sold a large portion of their company to a chinese firm. Couldnt that technology that went along with the sale, come back and bite us in the ass later?
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(Edit: Not that the bulldozers are that great an example. I actually don't see that what Caterpillar is accused of stands out from basic corporate behavior enough to make a "14 worst" list. Seems pretty garden-variety to me.) Last edited by ratbastid; 07-10-2006 at 01:15 PM.. |
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This is the thing: Corporations don't have ethics or morals. They are money making ventures. Period.
If you don't like what a Corporation does, you have three choices: 1) don't buy their products and services 2) change the system so Corporations can't get away with what they do 3) shrug your shoulders Check out this film The Corporation it is a great film that explores the history and the reality of the Corporation.
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I don't like the bulldozer example for a whole lot of reasons, one of which is that bulldozers are designed to knock down houses - ask any demolition contractor since that's their most likely tool. Also, the Israeli government has used those same bulldozers for things other than knocking down houses, such as building roads, knocking down Israeli government buildings and repairing bomb damage. All of those tasks fall well within the design scope of the product.
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The reason I say this is because maybe some asshole out there is reading this and wants to change (but doesn't think anyone else does). Here's the thing: everyone is basically good, in some way or another. People can be driven to be bad, or into hazy realities in which morality is relative or flexable, but at our core we all are good. I'm good, you're good, Charlatan is good (obviously) , and yes even Geore W. Bush is good. It's important to remember this when you see great good or great 'evil' (or bad). When I think of the people at Caterpillar who were responsible for filling the Israeli orders for buldozers, for example, I think of people who have families to feed and who are responsib le for the jobs of thousands of people. I understand that they feel that, despite the ends of their sale, they are vindicated by doing good elsewhere (that's the hazy reality/flexible morals I was talking about before). The problem is that while the families of these people have food on their table, and the employees have plenty of work, innocent Palestinians are having their homes demolished. To me, that's unacceptable, and - given the opportunity - I would never buy items from Caterpillar because of it. I guess that's about it. |
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Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town
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You can tell whether a corporation is "good" or "bad" by how they value / or don't value their own employees. From that you can infer everything else. Of those companies on the list that I have personal knowledge of, all all crummy employers. Lockheed Martin, especially, chews 'em up and spits 'em out.
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Location: Oregon
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One of my picky notes about Coke's supposed practices:
A lot of their bottling operations are independently owned and operated, and are only licensed by Coca-Cola, so not buying Coke products in the US isn't really going to have an impact on the profit margins of bottling operations in Colombia or India. Like Charlatan said--these corporations are in the business of making money. We can't expect any more from them than that. So we have to decide. I don't shop at Wal-Mart, I don't use Round-Up. Those are my two biggies (Wal-Mart and Monsanto). We all make our choices, and if we tried to limit ourselves to only ethical producers, we would be 1) limiting our choices as consumers severely, and 2) paying through the nose for it. I'm not saying we shouldn't try, as consumers, to exercise the power of our wallets, but we have to realize that there are some situations where it's just not practical, usually for economic reasons.
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I'm glad that Nestle made it onto that list for baby formula distribution. Seems like whenever I mention it to someone, they're completely clueless. they don't realize that if a woman doesn't encourage her body to lactate within the first couple of weeks after a birth, she will be unable to feed her child later. How do people not see the crime in providing an uneducated populus with baby formula to encourage dependence? Baby formula is haneously expensive. ick.
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Location: AWOL in Edmonton
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As a civil engineering student and (for this summer) a civil earthworks construction manager/foreman, I'd like to chime in on the whole Cat bulldozer point. Terraforming and construction would not be possible without Cats/bulldozers. There is no modern country in the world that isn't reliant on such machines.
Not to open the entire Israel vs Palistine issue, but it is always debatable who is innocent and under what circumstances the Cats are used. The Israeli Defence Force does classify the modified D9s as 'counter-terrorism operations'. Homes and olive groves have been destroyed, people have been displaced. People have been suicide bombed as well. Caterpiller sells "stock" D9s and D10s. IDF modifys them. It is notable that the US military buys the armor kits from IDF. Caterpiller also sells to the US military. I have been told, but I can't find an online source right now, that modified Cats have also been used by the UN to detonate mine fields. I have no moral qualms about Caterpiller, and if I was ever in the market to buy a bulldozer, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. (Well, I'd consider Komatsu too, even though they produced most of the military tractors and tank parts for the Japanese army in WWII). |
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catepillar's corporate ethics code (http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=38044&x=7) particularly page 30 should create problems for the company's relationship with the idf.
collective punishment is a war crime--it is explicitly prohibited by the geneva convention. caterpillar knows and has known for many many years that the idf adapts the bulldozers that it purchases from caterpillar and that among the uses to which they are put is the flattening of houses of palestinians in reprisal for political actions undertaken by palestinian groups in the context of a long term and brutal conflict. the flashpoint for this problem was the killing of rachel corrie by the idf a couple years ago. a nice caterpillar was the featured weapon. the responses from caterpillar itself to repeated shreholder move to stop this sale is that policing end users is beyond caterpillar's purview. so beneath the ethics, and beneath the claim at the opening of the ethics code that "this is the most important document caterpillar produces," you get typical milton friedman style thinking--a firm's responsibility to end users extends to warranty protection and so forth (presumably caterpillar would repair manufacturing defects in the machines the idf uses to bulldoze palestinian houses) and nothing else. i was wondering why caterpillar had not been sued for this relationship with the idf and find themselves having to stand trial. us firms can be held accountable for abuses committed overseas in american courts: there is alot of precedent for this kind of action. but.....whether it would fit under the same logic as the unocal case a few years ago is a problem because unocal had hired the burmese military as a "security force" which also happened to help keep labor costs low for the clients via forced labor and which developed innovative types of recreation like mass rape while on the job. caterpillar simply sells to a client who uses some of the machines to commit war crimes. so i dont know. so much for business ethics. yay capitalism. on the other hand, there the list quoted in the op is problematic in its collapsing of different types of problems, with different registers of corporate ethical violations, together and then compounding it by using the top ten format. i say this because as nasty a business as collective punishment is, caterpillar only sells equipment to the idf, which seems to have some trouble with the idea that palestinians are human beings. lockheed martin is in the conflict of interest/influence peddling game..kbr is among the more amazing of halliburton's many...um...questionable outfits engaging in...um...questionable activities....dyncorps is a mercenary outfit masequerading as a security firm in this brave new bushworld.... the point is that the others actually do things directly, while caterpillar is at a remove. doesnt seem like the same kind of problem to me.
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It's very disturbing the level of corporate crime that goes unpunished, and the ability of large corporations to get away with a slap on the wrist for the gravest of grievances. Unfortunately, none of the examples in the article are particularly surprising, as I have read about several of them in Russel Mokhiber's Corporate Crime and Violence, published in 1984. Other interesting documentaries about the history of corporations and such ethics include "The Corporation," and more recently "Why we fight."
In the face of all these inhumane acts and practices, it's hard to know what to think about the corporations who commit unspeakable crimes behind their backs, then turn around and sell us the fruits of their pillage of the Earth.
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actually, dyze, people can organize and have a considerable impact on the actions of firms...even a freidmanite would admit that--from a neoliberal viewpoint (same as friedmanite except more dangerous because operationalized) a firm exists to make profits for its shareholders.
well, the ability to generate profit presupposes demand. a highly organized boycott could impact on that--the threat of a really large boycott is like what the threat of a general strike used to be--something that would send fear coursing through capitalists--shut down demand and you can watch them squirm. same thing with a strike--you can service demand if you cant get the commodities produced--whence the neoliberal terror of powerful, coherent trade unions. political pressure in general--organized, sustained pressure--can have very significant effects on how tncs operate--the corporate social responsibility audits i posted links to earlier are very expensive undertakings and only exist as devices that enable firms to (a) become somewhat transparent to themselves--always a problem, but even worse if your firm is little more than a financial and design lynchpin inside a huge supply pool and (b) to give corporations some basis for claiming that they are at least trying to act "ethically"---the only reason firms are concerned with this is because they have been forced to be concerned with it. inidividually, of course, we are all equally powerless. like in this messageboard, where individual statements live in neat little boxes. individuals have no power, unless they control capital. the rest of us, so long as we do not organize, are fucked. for example, caterpillar's management must have made a calculation concerning threats of a boycott: 1. the case being made by activists seems shaky at its central linkage--holding caterpillar responsible for crimes against humanity committed by the end user--which modifies the equipment before they turn them on civilian residences. 2. caterpillar's demand is not primarily consumer demand, more b-2-b so it would not feel threatened by a boycott. the first point means that the firm feels it can defend itself. the second means that it does not feel directly threatened. the activist groups are trying to use publicity and mobilization to strengthen its case. caterpillar is trying to ride this out. there we are.
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While there are some good points here and some to be made I have 1 question.
Where is the list of the 14 Best Corporations???? I mean why not show us what the contrasts are between the good and the bad. If you only show the bad you prove 3 things.... bias against the companies listed with no contrast, no reference points just all the bad: pessimism, you show by not listing any "good companies" that perhaps you are implying ALL corporations must act like this to some degree: and you aren't showing what "model" corporations, (the ones you like), do that is different than the ones you list. While all the evils maybe true, you have not given any alternatives to these companies nor shown how they should change and what they need to do in order to improve. Using Coke as an example: Ok you showed me how evil Coke is.... now show me what Pepsi or 7-Up/Dr.Pepper do differently that make them "better" corporations, and thus more worthy to get my business. Show me the differences, show me which corporations have better practices so that i may do business with them and help to keep them in business.
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pan: have a look here
http://www.business-ethics.com/whats_new/100best.html 100 best corporate citizens from business ethics magazine. someone had to do it. this is an interesting survey regarding attitudes toward corporate ethics--it seems that treating employees fairly is generally the marker folk look to: http://www.bcccc.net/index.cfm?fusea...D=292&PageID=4
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Lennonite Priest
Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
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Thanks RB, good link, and it adds a little to this discussion.
It's easy to criticize but it's hard to expect debate if you do not provide legitimate and possible alternatives.
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