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The Hidden Influence of JINSA and CSP on Conservative Opinion
Have you ever heard of JINSA or CSP ? I hadn't either....until yesterday. I am relieved to find that I share very little of their agenda. How much has JINSA and CSP agenda...and their members, influenced your thinking? Did you know of their influence? Is their agenda consistant with what is in the best interest of the American people? Do JINSA and CSP members have too much influence on the Bush administration, or on you?
<b>What would influence moderate leaning, middle eastern governments to align themselves, or even trust the U.S...besides...fear?</b>
I posted about this <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?p=2054965#post2054965">here</a>, on the "Do You Think Iran is Developing Nuclear Weapons ?" thread.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JINSA
....JINSA's advisory board includes such notable figures as Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Michael Ledeen, Richard Perle, and James Woolsey, while Vice President Dick Cheney, US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, and Undersecretary of Defense for policy Douglas Feith were all on Jinsa’s board of advisers before they entered the Bush administration.
<b>Flag and General Officer's trip</b>
One of JINSA's most important programs is to invite, with the assistance of the Pentagon and the U.S. Department of State, retired U.S. senior military officers to Israel and Jordan. The General and Flag Officer's program, as it is known, allows participants to see with their own eyes, the problems facing the Middle East, in meetings with Israeli and Jordanian political and military leaders. More than 200 retired Admirals and Generals,......
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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest
article | posted August 15, 2002 (September 2, 2002 issue)
The Men From JINSA and CSP
Jason Vest
Almost thirty years ago, a prominent group of neoconservative hawks found an effective vehicle for advocating their views via the Committee on the Present Danger, a group that fervently believed the United States was a hair away from being militarily surpassed by the Soviet Union, and whose raison d'être was strident advocacy of bigger military budgets, near-fanatical opposition to any form of arms control and zealous championing of a Likudnik Israel. Considered a marginal group in its nascent days during the Carter Administration, with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 CPD went from the margins to the center of power.
Just as the right-wing defense intellectuals made CPD a cornerstone of a shadow defense establishment during the Carter Administration, so, too, did the right during the Clinton years, in part through two organizations: the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) and the Center for Security Policy (CSP). And just as was the case two decades ago, dozens of their members have ascended to powerful government posts, where their advocacy in support of the same agenda continues, abetted by the out-of-government adjuncts from which they came. Industrious and persistent, they've managed to weave a number of issues--support for national missile defense, opposition to arms control treaties, championing of wasteful weapons systems, arms aid to Turkey and American unilateralism in general--into a hard line, with support for the Israeli right at its core.
On no issue is the JINSA/CSP hard line more evident than in its relentless campaign for war--not just with Iraq, but "total war," as Michael Ledeen, one of the most influential JINSAns in Washington, put it last year. For this crew, "regime change" by any means necessary in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the Palestinian Authority is an urgent imperative. Anyone who dissents--be it Colin Powell's State Department, the CIA or career military officers--is committing heresy against <b>articles of faith that effectively hold there is no difference between US and Israeli national security interests</b>, and that the only way to assure continued safety and prosperity for both countries is through hegemony in the Middle East--a hegemony achieved with the traditional cold war recipe of feints, force, clientism and covert action.
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http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...ction=featured Middle East Featured Articles and Reports
I started a thread, since closed.... that examined the
<b>The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"</b>
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...hlight=israeli
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http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3467
Juan Cole Aug. 30, 2004
.CBS is reporting that a Defense Intelligence Agency analyst detailed to Undersecretary of Defense for Planning Douglas Feith's Office of Special Plans is under FBI investigation for spying for Israel.........
.......But this espionage case is too narrow. Consider what journalist Jim Lobe wrote about Feith's Office of Special Plans (OSP) and the Pentagon Near East and South Asia (NESA) office:
"[K]ey personnel who worked in both NESA and OSP were part of a broader network of neoconservative ideologues and activists who worked with other Bush political appointees scattered around the national-security bureaucracy to move the country to war, according to retired Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, who was assigned to NESA from May 2002 through February 2003. The heads of NESA and OSP were Deputy Undersecretary William Luti and Abram Shulsky, respectively. Other appointees who worked with them in both offices included Michael Rubin, a Middle East specialist previously with the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute (AEI); David Schenker, previously with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP); and Michael Makovsky; an expert on neocon icon Winston Churchill and the younger brother of David Makovsky, a senior WINEP fellow and former executive editor of pro-Likud Jerusalem Post. Along with Feith, all of the political appointees have in common a close identification with the views of the right-wing Likud Party in Israel."
Karen Kwiatkowski was an eyewitness in NESA, and Lobe reports:
"[S]he recounts one incident in which she helped escort a group of half a dozen Israelis, including several generals, from the first floor reception area to Feith's office.........
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Quote:
http://www.counterpunch.org/green02282004.html
Weekend Edition
February 28 / 29, 2004
A CounterPunch Special Report
Serving Two Flags
Neo-Cons, Israel and the Bush Administration
By STEPHEN GREEN
......Have the neo-conservatives--many of whom are senior officials in the Defense Department, National Security Council and Office of the Vice President--had dual agendas, while professing to work for the internal security of the United States against its terrorist enemies?
A review of the internal security backgrounds of some of the best known among them strongly suggests the answer.
Dr. Stephen Bryen and Colleagues
In April of 1979, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Robert Keuch recommended in writing that Bryen, then a staff member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, undergo a grand jury hearing to establish the basis for a prosecution for espionage. John Davitt, then Chief of the Justice Department's Internal Security Division, concurred.
The evidence was strong. Bryen had been overheard in the Madison Hotel Coffee Shop, offering classified documents to an official of the Israeli Embassy in the presence of the director of AIPAC, the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee. It was later determined that the Embassy official was Zvi Rafiah, <b>the Mossad station chief in Washington</b>. Bryen refused to be poly-graphed by the FBI on the purpose and details of the meeting; whereas the person who'd witnessed it agreed to be poly-graphed and passed the test.........
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<b>As a followup to the above article excerpt, the author, Stephen Green, was then interviewed by the FBI:</b>
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http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?...articleId=8467
Mole Hunt
An expert on U.S.–Israeli relations reveals details from his recent visit with the FBI.
By Jason Vest and Laura Rozen
Web Exclusive: 09.03.04
........But as Green spoke with investigators, he realized the agents were investigating far more than Franklin.
"Larry Franklin's name never came up, but several others did," he said.
Green, as the FBI agents knew, had a special expertise in the field of Israeli espionage in the United States. In the 1980s, he had taken time off from his job at the UN to look into the U.S.–Israeli "special relationship." He spent years combing through public records, filing and litigating Freedom of Information Act requests, and tracking down current and retired government officials. He eventually wrote two books, Taking Sides: America's Secret Relations With Israel and Living By The Sword: America and Israel in the Middle East. The Times of London and Foreign Affairs commended his work, describing it as "praised by those who believe the United States has damaged its own security, and Israel's too, by uncritical and often secret support of Israel's actions, no matter how extreme." Yet, as Foreign Affairs reported, Green's work also caused "sputter[ing] with indignation" among "those who believe… that American and Israeli interests are identical."
Green returned to the UN in 1990 and followed the subject from there. <b>Earlier this year, he published a piece in the newsletter CounterPunch, recapping previously reported -- though long-forgotten -- government investigations of prominent neoconservatives for their suspected espionage or improper information-sharing with Israel.</b> And that's where the FBI comes in............
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The core point of all of this is that supporters of the Bush administration should be aware that they rely heavily on the writing of folks like Kenneth Timmerman, who may not have an agenda that seperates Israeli interests from American interests. Timmerman featured an endorsement from Dr. Stephen Bryen, on his Timmerman2000.com website:
http://web.archive.org/web/200011190...dorsements.htm
Are you comfortable embracing, it appears to be exclusively, a closed, one sided agenda, more influenced by a conservative, Israeli faction, than you may have known about, up until now?
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