Karl Rove Replaced By Fake "Protestor" of Miami-Dade Vote Recount in 2000
 

The news today that Karl Rove's non-blatantly political duties at the white house....the actual government "job" that he was paid to do, are being transferred to an admitted, "bussed in" republican "thug" who was part of an orchestrated "protest" "Op", in Florida in Nov., 2000, that hinged on the rapid deployment of 700 republican operatives, from other parts of the country, to Florida with a plan to monitor, impede, interfere with, or shut down efforts to recount the close Florida vote.

With the 2000 pre-election efforts of Bush's brother, Florida governor Jeb Bush, and Fla. Secretary of State, Catherine Harris, who played dual roles of chief official Fla. election official, and Bush-Cheney 2000 Fla. campaign, chairwoman, to bar eligible Fla. voters from the polls by listing them on a flawed "Felon's List". The "List" was totally discredited four year later, in 2004, when it was discovered by the press, after CNN sued to force public access to the names on the list, that there were no Hispanic names on the list! A majority of Hispanics in Fla. vote for republican candidates.

Why was it necessary for republicans to deploy such a large, out of state contingent of national, partisan, political operatives to Florida, considering that the governor of the state was candidate GW Bush's brother, and the chief state election official was also that state's Bush campaign chairwoman?

I've put together this thread to post the background of unique, organized, and intentional efforts by out of state republicans to interfere or stop the 2000 vote recount in Florida, where Bush was "ahead" by 527 votes, on Dec. 12, 2000, when the SCOTUS granted a Bush-Cheney campaign request to block completion of the vote recount, granting Bush the U.S. presidency by default.
Mr. President, you've described yourself as a "uniter", over and over. Your supporters advise the rest of us, to forget, give it up, "move on". You, yourself, are still rewarding the thugs that helped you avoid an unimpeded, Fla. vote recount in 2000. You show that you have a long memory, and so do we!

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The "diplomat" who could not get confirmed as UN Ambassador by a majority of his own party's senators, was rewarded for his part in the Florida 2000 vote recount disruption "Op", with a temporary, recess appointment as UN Ambassador, by president Bush. Bolton's appointment will expire at the start of the new congressional term, 9 months from now.....
My opinion is that the six year, post 2000 election efforts of POTUS Bush to promote to key government positions, and surround himself, with folks of such demonstrated, compromised ethics and partisan zealotry, as Joel Kaplan and John Bolton have publicly exhibited (they are both proud that they acted as intimidating "thugs", against Miami-Dade Fla. 2000 vote recount offficials, speaks volumes about Bush's own ethics and character.

Six years later, the conduct of the 700 "bussed" in republican "staffers" and politcal operatives in the midst of efforts to recount the Fla. vote, still contributes to the "stench" of a coup.

It's amazing how blatent it all really is. It almost seems as if they aren't afraid of being acught anymore, which is crazy considering the recent cases of dirty political figures being called on their bullshit. I remember a thread in which it was asked if the president lives in a bubble, somehow cut off from reality in one way or another. I suspect that this proves such a point. Bush takes the 2000 election and all of the people whop help him reap the rewards in the middle of terrible controversies about coruption surrounding the administration. It boggles the mind.

All I seem to recall are the Union members the democrats bussed in to 'protest' the inital vote.

I fail to see a point other than you didn't like the outcome of the 2000 election. Next time perhaps the democrats won't try SELECTIVE recounts in democrat controlled areas and instead push for the statewide one.

Its hard to tell what the democrats will do next time since they appear to be losing the battle to allow voting by people without ID. Its very important to the DNC that people without verifiable identification be allowed to vote in elections...wonder why :hmm:

I would say it's because the franchise the lynchpin of our entire democracy. I would add that being turned away when asked, "papers, please" sounds mighty fascist. I am happy to be in the party that wants more people to vote.

On the other hand, The GOP seems mightily invested in supporting Diebold vote counters. Wonder why? :hmm:

Oh, wait, it's because Diebold gives a shitload of money to the GOP.

What?! A politician rewarded someone that helped them win an election?! I'm outraged!

In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic.

/Stops channelling Homer Simpson
//Remembers that the next line in the letter to Mr. Burns contains the line "smells like an elephant's butt", which seems oddly appropriate here.
///Remembers he lives in Chicago, where patronage has transformed into a fine art

How is having a valid ID a difficult task to accomplish? God forbid convicted felons cant vote! Oh lordy Illegal Immigrants can't vote!

Ask anyone who lives on the gulf coast.

I live on the gulf coast. All you need is a birth certificate, SSN card, or any other proof of citizenship. Hell in most counties they'll quite litterally come to your door to sign up for both voter registration AND issuing an ID.

So... how is having a valid ID a difficult task to accomplish?

There is already a process of registration for voting.

When a person votes, they are checked off the registration list.

If another person tries to vote under that name, the matter is investigated.

You cannot just show up and vote and get it counted.

The fact is, (and I say this as a southerner) portions of this country have had a poor record of providing the vote to all ethnicities. And this isn't ancient history, this is within the last three decades. Considering that districts are allowed to interpret election requirements, I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear of a return to something like a poll tax or quiz related to a "valid ID".

And yes, I think felons should be allowed to vote if they have satisfied their punitory expectations. There are "felons" who can't vote because of a civil rights march they were in in the wrong kind of town in 1965.

Oh, man... This thread is stirring up a 6-year-dormant hornet's nest. I don't think that's really what this news item is about.

The thing that's noteworthy here is that yet again, when a position comes open in the administration, it's given to somebody who demonstrated their loyalty at the cost of performing questionably ethical actions.

We've seen this a lot. We're not outraged anymore. You know, if you beat a dog for long enough, it'll start to act as if it thinks it deserves it. I don't know about you, but America's starting to look a lot like a beaten dog.

i am actually amazed at the seeming stupor abroad in the land too...what is going on out there? you would think that there would be more public pressure--or you'd have some sense of general public discontent---but there seems nothing organized.

folk are yelling at their tv sets and wondering aloud what is happening to them to friends over a beer or 6 at a nearby publick house.

or: there are tons of messageboards like this on the net--i imagine that in most of them, folk are posting or have posted wondering why there is this stupor abroad in the land and no organized reaction to the many--um---malfeasances (yikes) of the bush people.

well, maybe there is.
maybe this is it.
maybe this is what we do.

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Even a beaten dog will eventually show it's teeth. We are long overdue in demanding some legitimacy in those that represent our government.

Host has pointed out that the administration's so called shakeup is cosmetic at best. Qualification (legitimacy) hasn't mattered in rewarding the incompetent for a role in government. They simply need to "getting away with it."

Yeah, but (and this isn't really disagreeing with the thrust of your post) I don't think they've replaced anyone over incompetance, save Michael Brown. Most of these changes have been for political expediency, cosmetic reasons, or simply looking for fresh blood, not gross misconduct. That's not to say some of these people didn't need to go, but that's not why they were replaced.

Your reply is telling Ustwo. Instead of "No way, he didn't do that! We're not wrong!" you instead choose "but the Democrats suck too!" That doesn't strike me as a very good excuse for what Bush & Co. are doing right now.

My reply is telling in that I have no idea what hosts original point was, but I think it had something to do with the 2000 election. I fail to see a problem here, an issue here, or where he is going. Perhaps he is mad that Bush wanted to work with people who supported him rather than against him. He is also wrong because Bush did try to 'reach out' to the democrats after 2000, even letting Teddy write the Education bill, and he saw how far THAT got him, but thats all old news.

i thought that the New Civility was about trying to raise the quality of debate as a way of reducing the likelihood of personal attacks in threads.

how are your posts in this thread not simple trolling?

Perhaps I was remiss, by making my own statements and the documentation that I provided in this thread's OP, too brief. Possibly, I made statements that I did not thoroughly back up with references in news reporting, linked to published news articles on web pages owned by prominent MSM news departments. Live and learn.....my bad!

I'll let Al Kamen of WaPo, help clarify my core point:
In the context of the above Al Kamen column and the phoio embellished doucmentation that it offers, consider rereading the report about John Bolton, located in my OP...here's an excerpt........
The news reporting of that time....in mid to late November, 2000 stated conclusively that the Gore campaing tried to win the Florida vote in the courts, and the Bush campaign.....
Read the following article, linked in the next quote box. All references to the November, 2000, post election Florida protests and accompanying organizing and support, describes republican activity as party managed and driven. There was apparently no "grass roots" (eminating from the people) protest activity or "voice" from the republican side. All republican participation was financed and managed by the party, and conducted by party officials and party activists, staff members of elected officials, and other "careerist" republicans or wannabees.

Contrast the descriptions of those who supported Gore. Some were organized and bussed by efforts of partisan clergy (Jesse Jackson) and by union organizations (AFL-CIO).....but....none apparently were seeking political payback via an appointed, post election job, they were not staff members of elected officials...
The Bush campaign was first to launch a "protest Op", solely engaged in a disinformation campaign to portray the recount process as "in chaos", attacked and shut down the Miami-Dade recount with the "folks" in the above photo, in which <b>Joel Kaplan</b> was one of their number, and directed John Bolton to rush from South Korea, to Florida, to burst into the room where the Miami-Dade recount has resumed...to order it stopped.

When you add the following to the "mix"....
This....is the "point".....the 2000 Florida vote contest resulted in the closed thing to coup that resulted in the "installation" of a POTUS who lost the popular, nationwide vote, by 500,000. He promised to be a uniter, not a "divider". He appointed 2000 Fla vote recount "intimidator", John Bolton. last year to an interim UN ambassador job that his own party's senators would not approve Bolton to hold. Now....a revamp of the white house staff is touted.
Fake 2000 "local protestor" in the Miami-Dade vote recount gets appointed to take Karl Rove's principle government job.

At what point is it appropriate to stop protestion against this...and end attempts to educate people as to the history of the 2000 Fla. vote....???
...when Bush stops appointing the thugs who broke the rules to put him in office, there would be nothing new to comment on!

Nooooooooooooo.....

Please, Lord God and everything sacred, please let Host be joking.