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Borla · 11-05-2005, 11:11 AM

Last night there was a special on Dateline about sexual predators who find children through the internet. It is replaying on MSNBC tonight at 7PM Central time. If you have children, and the ability to watch/record this show DO IT!! I caught it last night (have no kids yet, but am married) and was astounded at the forewardness of some of these people!! I've been online a long time, met literally over a hundred of my "online buddies" at various gatherings for different message boards, and do not consider myself naive, but I was still very surprised by some of the things that went on.

If you have children, please watch it. If your children are of age to be using the internet alone, please have them watch it too. It is semi-graphic, but they need to hear it!!!

canuckguy · 11-05-2005, 11:37 AM

More info, Dateline aired a show last night about kids meeting people online and how easy it was for pedo's to get at your kids. I believe it was pervertedjustice.com that assisted them. They posed as little kids online and had like 19 guys show up at the house to have sex, with who they thought was a 12/13/14 yr old girl or boy. The one guy took off all his clothes and walked into the house! These men had no idea who was waiting at the house, but still showed up. The shear gull of it all is what scared me, so brazen to just show up.

I watched that show last night and was also surprised at the amount of guys who at the drop of a hat would go to a house to meet a kid for sex. Not to mention, the priest guy and the doctor, teacher........ Did you see that one guy come to both the house and then go to mcdonalds!!! He should have been shot to death on the spot. Dateline clearly showed why laws on CHILD sex offenders should be 100 billion times tougher. I have no problem with any of those men who showed up at that house being jailed for life/shot. It was clear as day that they were at the house to have sex with a 12, 13, or 14 (who they thought) girl/boy. Just fucking sickens me.

maleficent · 11-05-2005, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Borla

I've been online a long time, met literally over a hundred of my "online buddies" at various gatherings for different message boards, and do not consider myself naive, but I was still very surprised by some of the things that went on.

this is not new news... this has been going on since newsgroups over a 1200 baud connection were the way to connect with the outside world... The internet and the ease of use of chat applications and the lax parenting just make it a lot easier.

The internet you can be whomever you want to be... the truth is not always in front of your face... and the anonynimity makes people a lot bolder than they would be in real life.

I haven't played in an AOL chatroom in years because I need the brain cells that I have... but one of the last times I did.. when I entered as myself-- a late 30s single female, I wasn't interesting to anyone.. so when I became.. a 17 year old curious nymphette. who I all I did was say hello and bat my eyelashes -- i could't keep up with the barrage if private messages I got.

Borla · 11-05-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by maleficent

this is not new news... this has been going on since newsgroups over a 1200 baud connection were the way to connect with the outside world... The internet and the ease of use of chat applications and the lax parenting just make it a lot easier.

The internet you can be whomever you want to be... the truth is not always in front of your face... and the anonynimity makes people a lot bolder than they would be in real life.

I haven't played in an AOL chatroom in years because I need the brain cells that I have... but one of the last times I did.. when I entered as myself-- a late 30s single female, I wasn't interesting to anyone.. so when I became.. a 17 year old curious nymphette. who I all I did was say hello and bat my eyelashes -- i could't keep up with the barrage if private messages I got.

I know it's not new......but it shocked me the forwardness of some of the men, and as mentioned earlier, the guy who did it two days in a row, after being caught the first time!!!

Every guy claimed "this is the first time I've done something like this". Several said "I wasn't REALLY going to have sex with them". A few said "I'm getting help for this, I'm seeing a psychiatrist for it....". It was sad really. As is the experience you had. :\

JStrider · 11-06-2005, 08:12 AM

when i was a kid i used to spend time in the compuserve chat rooms...

never discussed my age or my location more specific then the city was in tho

ngdawg · 11-06-2005, 09:12 AM

That show amazed me and not in a good way. A teacher! A rabbi! An ER doctor?? Makes you wonder just how wide-spread pedophilia really is.
My daughter had a close call with an online predator who was bold enough to go by the name 'partyxenema'! He'd apparently been stalking out a neighborhood girl, a cousin of one of my daughter's friends. All we could do was turn over the name to police since we don't keep chat logs. But she got 'rules of online chatting 101' quickly and first rule-if you don't recognize the name, you are not to say one word to them. Also made her change her AIM profile to less reflect that of a young teen and made her remove her myspace. Finally, as much as she hates it, I WILL stand over her shoulder and read-the first time I see her hide her chatting, she's off the computer.
Disgusting that, as a parent, I have to do all this.....

cellophanedeity · 11-06-2005, 03:23 PM

I've hidden my chat conversations from my parents forever. I didn't want my parents reading about how hot I thought someone was. I didn't want them to know I was bi until I was ready to talk to them about it.

But, I also knew that it's stupid to tell people where you live and your real name. When we got the internet, my parents sat me down and we talked about things that were and were not appropriate to talk about online. My elementary school did the same sort of internet safety thing with us. The open lines of communication make it easy to know that even if I were to do something stupid, I could talk to someone and ensure that I stay safe.

I don't think parental fear is what is best for kids. Mild, non-invasive monitoring of where your kids go online, along with open communication and discussion is what I think works best for securing the safety of kids.

analog · 11-13-2005, 02:50 AM

Education.

99% of the time, it's not social engineering, it's not clever talking, it's not manipulating a young mind, it's a stupid parent who never taught their kids the proper safety tools for using the computer. There's nothing else to be blamed on successful child predators, or predators that elicit info from minors, but bad parenting. If a kid gives out personal information, it's because their parents never took the time to educate them on the proper use of the computer. With proper education, the chance of coercion is minute.

This issue mostly pisses me off because so many parents want to blame the internet, want to blame society, want to blame everyone under the sun, when prevention starts with education, pure and simple. It also disturbs me when parents say they can't be bothered... can't be bothered with the safety of their child? They find it stupid that they have to go through a lot to keep their kids safe? Well, you know what, it's not a perfect world- and if you're going to grant a minor access to the ENTIRE WORLD at once, you'd better prepare them for the world you just thrust them into.

11-05-2005, 11:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
Borla Junkie	All parents should watch MSNBC tonight!!!!! Last night there was a special on Dateline about sexual predators who find children through the internet. It is replaying on MSNBC tonight at 7PM Central time. If you have children, and the ability to watch/record this show DO IT!! I caught it last night (have no kids yet, but am married) and was astounded at the forewardness of some of these people!! I've been online a long time, met literally over a hundred of my "online buddies" at various gatherings for different message boards, and do not consider myself naive, but I was still very surprised by some of the things that went on. If you have children, please watch it. If your children are of age to be using the internet alone, please have them watch it too. It is semi-graphic, but they need to hear it!!! __________________ Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde!!!!

11-05-2005, 11:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
canuckguy I read your emails. Location: earth	More info, Dateline aired a show last night about kids meeting people online and how easy it was for pedo's to get at your kids. I believe it was pervertedjustice.com that assisted them. They posed as little kids online and had like 19 guys show up at the house to have sex, with who they thought was a 12/13/14 yr old girl or boy. The one guy took off all his clothes and walked into the house! These men had no idea who was waiting at the house, but still showed up. The shear gull of it all is what scared me, so brazen to just show up. I watched that show last night and was also surprised at the amount of guys who at the drop of a hat would go to a house to meet a kid for sex. Not to mention, the priest guy and the doctor, teacher........ Did you see that one guy come to both the house and then go to mcdonalds!!! He should have been shot to death on the spot. Dateline clearly showed why laws on CHILD sex offenders should be 100 billion times tougher. I have no problem with any of those men who showed up at that house being jailed for life/shot. It was clear as day that they were at the house to have sex with a 12, 13, or 14 (who they thought) girl/boy. Just fucking sickens me. Last edited by canuckguy; 11-05-2005 at 11:40 AM..

11-06-2005, 08:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	when i was a kid i used to spend time in the compuserve chat rooms... never discussed my age or my location more specific then the city was in tho __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

11-06-2005, 09:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	That show amazed me and not in a good way. A teacher! A rabbi! An ER doctor?? Makes you wonder just how wide-spread pedophilia really is. My daughter had a close call with an online predator who was bold enough to go by the name 'partyxenema'! He'd apparently been stalking out a neighborhood girl, a cousin of one of my daughter's friends. All we could do was turn over the name to police since we don't keep chat logs. But she got 'rules of online chatting 101' quickly and first rule-if you don't recognize the name, you are not to say one word to them. Also made her change her AIM profile to less reflect that of a young teen and made her remove her myspace. Finally, as much as she hates it, I WILL stand over her shoulder and read-the first time I see her hide her chatting, she's off the computer. Disgusting that, as a parent, I have to do all this..... __________________ Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of'em.

11-06-2005, 03:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
cellophanedeity Heliotrope Location: A warm room	I've hidden my chat conversations from my parents forever. I didn't want my parents reading about how hot I thought someone was. I didn't want them to know I was bi until I was ready to talk to them about it. But, I also knew that it's stupid to tell people where you live and your real name. When we got the internet, my parents sat me down and we talked about things that were and were not appropriate to talk about online. My elementary school did the same sort of internet safety thing with us. The open lines of communication make it easy to know that even if I were to do something stupid, I could talk to someone and ensure that I stay safe. I don't think parental fear is what is best for kids. Mild, non-invasive monitoring of where your kids go online, along with open communication and discussion is what I think works best for securing the safety of kids.

11-13-2005, 02:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
analog Banned	Education. 99% of the time, it's not social engineering, it's not clever talking, it's not manipulating a young mind, it's a stupid parent who never taught their kids the proper safety tools for using the computer. There's nothing else to be blamed on successful child predators, or predators that elicit info from minors, but bad parenting. If a kid gives out personal information, it's because their parents never took the time to educate them on the proper use of the computer. With proper education, the chance of coercion is minute. This issue mostly pisses me off because so many parents want to blame the internet, want to blame society, want to blame everyone under the sun, when prevention starts with education, pure and simple. It also disturbs me when parents say they can't be bothered... can't be bothered with the safety of their child? They find it stupid that they have to go through a lot to keep their kids safe? Well, you know what, it's not a perfect world- and if you're going to grant a minor access to the ENTIRE WORLD at once, you'd better prepare them for the world you just thrust them into.