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roadkill · 07-28-2005, 07:49 PM

What is true difference in chance that makes one day good and the next day bad. Is it cosmic choice or is it just perecption.

This is a question that has been bothering me throuout my day. Yes I've had a bad day.

Cynthetiq · 07-28-2005, 07:51 PM

i believe it's perception, glass half full kind of deal, there's some days where things that normally wouldn't bother me do, and that's the glass half empty days.

I just try to be.

OFKU0 · 07-28-2005, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkill

What is true difference in chance that makes one day good and the next day bad. Is it cosmic choice or is it just perecption.

It is what it is. Everyone and everything have bad days.

Look at the weather. Some days are bright and sunny while other days are wrecking havoc.

I'd say more diverse than bad.

Isn't bad good?

Johnny Pyro · 07-28-2005, 11:16 PM

For me its perception. The days that I don't have to go to work are great. The days that I do have to go to work suck! So I usually have three good days out of the week.

Phage · 07-29-2005, 08:10 AM

Of course it is perception; just think, someone must be having a good day. In the same spirit as a game of tag it is now your responsibility to find that person and crush them with unhappiness.

genuinegirly · 07-29-2005, 12:50 PM

In my eyes, it is perception. There is no way to explain it otherwise.

Cynthetiq · 07-29-2005, 03:10 PM

hmmm the thought that it's perception reminds me of the buddhist koan:

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A young student at a Zen monastery comes to his master and throws himself at his feet, sobbing. The teacher lifts him up gently, and asks him, “What is troubling you, my son?” “O master,” the student falters, “I am so discouraged. My meditation is a nightmare—my mind is always running after worldly thoughts, my legs ache, I'm constantly falling asleep… I cannot concentrate on anything for even a breath. I think that I am just not cut out for meditation.” The master pats his head and comforts him “Do not worry, my child. This is only a stage. It will pass, it will pass.” The student heaves a big sigh, bows to his master, and goes back to the meditation hall.

A few days later, he comes running to his master, grinning from ear to ear. “O master, by your grace, my meditation is completely transformed now! I’m getting so much joy, so much peace, so much depth…” The master responds calmly, “Do not worry, my son. It will pass.”

shesus · 07-29-2005, 05:30 PM

I honestly think that it is a perception. I know that I have had good days and bad days. Usually, nothing around me was different it was just how I took them. Sitting in traffic one day would be fine, the next day would irritate me. I believe that the brain is a powerful thing. People have to work just as hard to have a bad day as they do to have a good day.

The thing that I worry about is letting the negative thoughts and feelings take over. It makes no one happy and can be very unhealthy. But, you have to have some bad days to appreciate the good ones.

roadkill · 07-29-2005, 10:24 PM

Why then do we preceive things so differently? An inanimante object doesn't change yet sometimes we love it and other times we hate it. Rain for instance, if there is a drought then rain is a blessing... if it has rainded for the past two weeks straight then sunshine is a blessing. Why is there this difference? It doesn't change the fact that it's just droplets of water falling from the sky yet we change our view on it.

Min · 07-29-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkill

Why then do we preceive things so differently? An inanimante object doesn't change yet sometimes we love it and other times we hate it. Rain for instance, if there is a drought then rain is a blessing... if it has rainded for the past two weeks straight then sunshine is a blessing. Why is there this difference? It doesn't change the fact that it's just droplets of water falling from the sky yet we change our view on it.

Perception can be wrestled in the realm of psychology. It's all about the associations. Operant conditioning, a thing is as you think it is and have been conditioned to respond to it.
I have had a rather tumultuous week but I've taken it more in stride than I could have ten years ago. I have had my share of various upheavals in routine to take a lot in stride.

As far as rain is concerned, I love the stuff until it becomes bloody inconventient for me.

Mantus · 07-30-2005, 10:03 PM

A your day is causality perceived. So it's both.

roadkill · 08-01-2005, 02:32 PM

Well if it's is perception and also causality then can you also call it destany for if you only percieve things in one way but also because the causes then woulden't it be destiny?

coleh2085 · 08-13-2005, 12:07 PM

A day itself is just someone's perception. It humors me that we have a "bad day" and then a "good day", when really the only thing that changed is that we slept for a while. Yes, we schedule things by days, but I say we change "days" to lunar cycles or 100 hour segments or seasons or something, who is with me!?!?

typhus · 08-17-2005, 09:31 AM

It does have a lot to do with perception and the environment we were raised in. A bad day for a wealthy person could be a great day for a poor person and vise versa. There does come a point when your perception can't protect you, like if bad things keep happening and nothing good ever happens. But a many bad days may not be caused by chance, they may be "self inflicted". Bad decisions.

mystmarimatt · 08-17-2005, 09:53 AM

One of the things I've noticed as I've lived on earth is how things move in waves. They move, as it were, in movements. This seems obvious, I know. That's why we can readily identify a romantic movement, a fascist period, things like that.

But that's not what I mean. I guess I just mean noticing waves that are much more subtle. Maybe it's just me and I'm crazy, but if I've found one argument for there existing something larger than ourselves, it is the state of humanity itself, and how often we think and move in unison. Now, this isn't a universal truth, it's just a trend I've noticed, but it's something I can't help but notice. I don't mean we all go out and vote Republican one day. That's too... obvious, I guess.

It's far more emotive. Have you ever sat with somebody on a lazy sunday afternoon and acknowledged that it was a lazy afternoon? That beyond you and your friend, you can identify how most people you've come into contact with are probably also in that same mindset? It's like a foggy haze laying over the world. And not EVERYONE is affected by it, but there is an abnormally large group who are. Or those days where you wake up grumpy. We've probably all heard that tale of how one person smiling at 5 other can postively influence a whole flock of others the rest of the day. And how frowning and being grouchy can aversely affect a flock of people as well. Have you ever had a day where practically everyone you ran into was grumpy?

I guess that's just what I mean, that it's too hard not to see a greater connection between humanity when tiny things like this happen. And it makes me smile, (even if it's a grouchy day) to know that humanity is more than just flesh deep, that we're all connected in some way.

While I guess it's true that good vs. bad days are all in how you choose to interpret it, for me, this is a much more interesting way of looking at it.

cybersharp · 08-18-2005, 04:53 PM

Well, I would think it is perception and the fact that time defines us as individuals.. If somthing disrupts what we might wish would be taking up our time, then it most definently a bad day

braindamage351 · 08-20-2005, 11:21 PM

mystmarimatt, all that shows is how similar people are, and also how much they define themselves through others. A lazy afternoon is a product of the weather, and how we react to it. When someone smiles at you we interpret it as a sign of approval, and feel happy about it. Naturally that puts you in a better mood. If someone frowns at you, it tends to bring out the more negative emotions in you.

When it comes to the whole movement thing. That's just people jumping on the bandwagon. And on top of that it's hard not to be a romantic when the romantic ideology and artwork is all you have access to.

As for whether the day good or bad depending on perception or just random. That's really not a good question. Perception is fundamentally connected to what happened. It isn't a choice between the two.

Although actually, I suppose you could say that certain people will much more often look back and say "I had a good day". But they don't have any more good days than anyone else. If you have a good day most of the time then you aren't actually having a good day at all. In reality, you're just having a normal day and labeling it that way.

Sugarmouse · 08-21-2005, 03:20 AM

diverse not good/bad...depends what i have time for during it!!

cybersharp · 08-21-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by braindamage351

mystmarimatt, all that shows is how similar people are, and also how much they define themselves through others. A lazy afternoon is a product of the weather, and how we react to it. When someone smiles at you we interpret it as a sign of approval, and feel happy about it. Naturally that puts you in a better mood. If someone frowns at you, it tends to bring out the more negative emotions in you.

When it comes to the whole movement thing. That's just people jumping on the bandwagon. And on top of that it's hard not to be a romantic when the romantic ideology and artwork is all you have access to.

As for whether the day good or bad depending on perception or just random. That's really not a good question. Perception is fundamentally connected to what happened. It isn't a choice between the two.

Although actually, I suppose you could say that certain people will much more often look back and say "I had a good day". But they don't have any more good days than anyone else. If you have a good day most of the time then you aren't actually having a good day at all. In reality, you're just having a normal day and labeling it that way.

That might even mean prehapes that our feelings depending on social outcomes or situations are geneticly coded into our DNA allready through thousands of years of past experiances, TV, and evolution?

Seeker · 08-22-2005, 03:38 PM

I would say we label a good or bad day depending on the interplay between our internal and external factors.

It would be nice to think that it is just our perception, that gives us the feeling that we have control in our life, but sometimes we can't even control our internal factors, such as perception and emotion, let alone control the external factors that come our way.

We can learn to take days as they come and lessen our reactions to external events... we learn to ride through the good and the bad days, that is all we can actually do.

07-28-2005, 07:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
roadkill Insane	Difference in the days What is true difference in chance that makes one day good and the next day bad. Is it cosmic choice or is it just perecption. This is a question that has been bothering me throuout my day. Yes I've had a bad day.

07-28-2005, 07:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	i believe it's perception, glass half full kind of deal, there's some days where things that normally wouldn't bother me do, and that's the glass half empty days. I just try to be. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

07-28-2005, 11:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Johnny Pyro Hey Now! Location: Massachusetts (Redneck, white boy town. I hate it here.)	For me its perception. The days that I don't have to go to work are great. The days that I do have to go to work suck! So I usually have three good days out of the week. __________________ "From delusion lead me to truth, from darkness lead me to light, from death lead me to eternal life. - Sheriff John Wydell

07-29-2005, 12:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
genuinegirly Eat your vegetables Super Moderator Location: Arabidopsis-ville	In my eyes, it is perception. There is no way to explain it otherwise. __________________ "Sometimes I have to remember that things are brought to me for a reason, either for my own lessons or for the benefit of others." Cynthetiq "violence is no more or less real than non-violence." roachboy

07-29-2005, 05:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
shesus Fancy Location: Chicago	I honestly think that it is a perception. I know that I have had good days and bad days. Usually, nothing around me was different it was just how I took them. Sitting in traffic one day would be fine, the next day would irritate me. I believe that the brain is a powerful thing. People have to work just as hard to have a bad day as they do to have a good day. The thing that I worry about is letting the negative thoughts and feelings take over. It makes no one happy and can be very unhealthy. But, you have to have some bad days to appreciate the good ones. __________________ Whatever did happen to your soul? I heard you sold it Choose Heaven for the weather and Hell for the company

07-29-2005, 08:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
Phage Insane	Of course it is perception; just think, someone must be having a good day. In the same spirit as a game of tag it is now your responsibility to find that person and crush them with unhappiness.

07-29-2005, 10:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
roadkill Insane	Why then do we preceive things so differently? An inanimante object doesn't change yet sometimes we love it and other times we hate it. Rain for instance, if there is a drought then rain is a blessing... if it has rainded for the past two weeks straight then sunshine is a blessing. Why is there this difference? It doesn't change the fact that it's just droplets of water falling from the sky yet we change our view on it.

07-30-2005, 10:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mantus lascivious	A your day is causality perceived. So it's both.

08-01-2005, 02:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
roadkill Insane	Well if it's is perception and also causality then can you also call it destany for if you only percieve things in one way but also because the causes then woulden't it be destiny?

08-13-2005, 12:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
coleh2085 Upright	A day itself is just someone's perception. It humors me that we have a "bad day" and then a "good day", when really the only thing that changed is that we slept for a while. Yes, we schedule things by days, but I say we change "days" to lunar cycles or 100 hour segments or seasons or something, who is with me!?!?

08-17-2005, 09:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
typhus Tilted Location: USA	It does have a lot to do with perception and the environment we were raised in. A bad day for a wealthy person could be a great day for a poor person and vise versa. There does come a point when your perception can't protect you, like if bad things keep happening and nothing good ever happens. But a many bad days may not be caused by chance, they may be "self inflicted". Bad decisions.

08-17-2005, 09:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
mystmarimatt Omnipotent Ruler Of The Tiny Universe In My Mind Location: Oreegawn	One of the things I've noticed as I've lived on earth is how things move in waves. They move, as it were, in movements. This seems obvious, I know. That's why we can readily identify a romantic movement, a fascist period, things like that. But that's not what I mean. I guess I just mean noticing waves that are much more subtle. Maybe it's just me and I'm crazy, but if I've found one argument for there existing something larger than ourselves, it is the state of humanity itself, and how often we think and move in unison. Now, this isn't a universal truth, it's just a trend I've noticed, but it's something I can't help but notice. I don't mean we all go out and vote Republican one day. That's too... obvious, I guess. It's far more emotive. Have you ever sat with somebody on a lazy sunday afternoon and acknowledged that it was a lazy afternoon? That beyond you and your friend, you can identify how most people you've come into contact with are probably also in that same mindset? It's like a foggy haze laying over the world. And not EVERYONE is affected by it, but there is an abnormally large group who are. Or those days where you wake up grumpy. We've probably all heard that tale of how one person smiling at 5 other can postively influence a whole flock of others the rest of the day. And how frowning and being grouchy can aversely affect a flock of people as well. Have you ever had a day where practically everyone you ran into was grumpy? I guess that's just what I mean, that it's too hard not to see a greater connection between humanity when tiny things like this happen. And it makes me smile, (even if it's a grouchy day) to know that humanity is more than just flesh deep, that we're all connected in some way. While I guess it's true that good vs. bad days are all in how you choose to interpret it, for me, this is a much more interesting way of looking at it. __________________ Words of Wisdom: If you could really get to know someone and know that they weren't lying to you, then you would know the world was real. Because you could agree on things, you could compare notes. That must be why people get married or make Art. So they'll be able to really know something and not go insane.

08-18-2005, 04:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
cybersharp Insane	Well, I would think it is perception and the fact that time defines us as individuals.. If somthing disrupts what we might wish would be taking up our time, then it most definently a bad day __________________ 0PtIcAl

08-20-2005, 11:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
braindamage351 Insane	mystmarimatt, all that shows is how similar people are, and also how much they define themselves through others. A lazy afternoon is a product of the weather, and how we react to it. When someone smiles at you we interpret it as a sign of approval, and feel happy about it. Naturally that puts you in a better mood. If someone frowns at you, it tends to bring out the more negative emotions in you. When it comes to the whole movement thing. That's just people jumping on the bandwagon. And on top of that it's hard not to be a romantic when the romantic ideology and artwork is all you have access to. As for whether the day good or bad depending on perception or just random. That's really not a good question. Perception is fundamentally connected to what happened. It isn't a choice between the two. Although actually, I suppose you could say that certain people will much more often look back and say "I had a good day". But they don't have any more good days than anyone else. If you have a good day most of the time then you aren't actually having a good day at all. In reality, you're just having a normal day and labeling it that way.

08-21-2005, 03:20 AM	#18 (permalink)
Sugarmouse Insane Location: Preston lancs(i know i know)	diverse not good/bad...depends what i have time for during it!! __________________ Sugarmouse=Festered

08-22-2005, 03:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
Seeker Getting Clearer Location: with spirit	I would say we label a good or bad day depending on the interplay between our internal and external factors. It would be nice to think that it is just our perception, that gives us the feeling that we have control in our life, but sometimes we can't even control our internal factors, such as perception and emotion, let alone control the external factors that come our way. We can learn to take days as they come and lessen our reactions to external events... we learn to ride through the good and the bad days, that is all we can actually do. __________________ *To those who wander but who are not lost...* ~ Knowledge is not something you acquire, it is something you open yourself to.