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Habanerosky · 07-27-2005, 02:43 PM

I was speaking with a friend (well, someone I barely knew, but would consider a friend like the members of TFP are friends) about some random philosophical things and I asked him if he believes in a separation between the body and the spirit. He replied with:

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Originally Posted by Friend of mine (not really a post)

"I believe that there is something more to life that can be focused on through non-visceral activities like meditation. But the point is that we do not live in the past or the future, we live now, in this moment."

This made me think a lot, and I realized that life is obviously too short to waste time. People are so caught up in where they will be that they don't think about where they are now. In my opinion, the future should always be in mind, but it should not saturate the mind. The most depressed people I have ever known are the people who spent their young years in a mad dash to success. They missed the time that could have been spent with their friends or taking trips. A man can still get through medical school and enjoy his life. A person can still work their way up to being CEO of a major company and spend time with his/her family and friends. A persons job does not have to be their life, just a part of it. So that's that. SHA LA LA LA LA LA LIVE FOR TODAY!

braindamage351 · 07-30-2005, 11:15 PM

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Kierkegaard was devoted to aesthetics, and is sometimes referred to as the "poet-philosopher" because of the passionate way in which he approached philosophy. For him living in the immediate moment is what characterizes an aesthetic life. By this he does not necessarily mean a life lived in devotion to art—although many artists do also live at this level of existence. There are many degrees of aesthetic existence—at the bottom, one might see the purely consumerist lifestyle. At the top of this spectrum, we could find those lives which are lived in a truly anarchic, irresponsible way. At the limits of this type of existence, there is a consciousness that life is meaningless and has no purpose. The person lives simply for possibilities—and arranges his or her life around a rich fantasy life; at the same time, however, there is immense pain and despair.

^Someone who would disagree with your idea^

Genom Screams · 09-14-2005, 12:26 AM

I believe that my true happiness comes from growth and success. I love my family and friends but if I can't take care of things for myself, I can't be happy. Happiness depends on how you view it.

braindamage351 · 09-14-2005, 05:56 PM

Although happiness is only experienced in a single moment, some of the most powerful joys in the world come from anticipation of the future that you're headed toward. And long term goals bring this great sense of satisfaction and contentment that temporary happiness alone can't give you.

chelsea_9 · 09-18-2005, 07:28 PM

i agree with the idea of living in today, to an extent.

i am concerned about my future as far as my career and success goes. i like to think that i know when to take a break and relax once in a while, but i do overwork myself for fear of failure in the future.

otherwise, i try to never get into discussions about creation, evolution, religion, the universe, etc.
i believe that some people worry and obsess over such issues in extreme past or in the future that really, no one knows the truth about. i find it much easier to be thankful for everything, and not worry about how it was made or how it will end.
just enjoy and respect it.

Genom Screams · 09-18-2005, 08:50 PM

i like how you think chelsea, your words ease my mind.

cybersharp · 09-18-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by braindamage351

Although happiness is only experienced in a single moment, some of the most powerful joys in the world come from anticipation of the future that you're headed toward. And long term goals bring this great sense of satisfaction and contentment that temporary happiness alone can't give you.

Very well said.

chelsea_9 · 09-19-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Genom Screams

i like how you think chelsea, your words ease my mind.

thank you. thats one of the best compliments ive ever recieved!

Suave · 09-19-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by braindamage351

Although happiness is only experienced in a single moment, some of the most powerful joys in the world come from anticipation of the future that you're headed toward. And long term goals bring this great sense of satisfaction and contentment that temporary happiness alone can't give you.

I find that a sense of satisfaction and contentment can be gained simply from being alive. Related to these feelings, goals are unnessecary at best, and destructive at worst. If one becomes attached to one's goals and fails at them, it can pull them away from happiness and contentment if not careful.

ElvenDestiny · 09-20-2005, 09:26 AM

Well Habanerosky fear not 'cause I do agree with you, I find that people have become to caught in where they are going and how they are going to get there to stop and say wow, this place is beautiful. Not only do they not stop to smell the flowers the flowers no longer exist.

Also IMHO I've found that one of the major causes to this is people have become vary materialistic, and this only fuels the fires.

09-18-2005, 07:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
chelsea_9 Crazy Location: somewhere i intend to leave	i agree with the idea of living in today, to an extent. i am concerned about my future as far as my career and success goes. i like to think that i know when to take a break and relax once in a while, but i do overwork myself for fear of failure in the future. otherwise, i try to never get into discussions about creation, evolution, religion, the universe, etc. i believe that some people worry and obsess over such issues in extreme past or in the future that really, no one knows the truth about. i find it much easier to be thankful for everything, and not worry about how it was made or how it will end. just enjoy and respect it. __________________ all good dreamers pass this way some day hiding behind bottles in dark cafes Last edited by chelsea_9; 09-18-2005 at 07:31 PM..

09-18-2005, 08:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
Genom Screams Upright Location: glendale	i like how you think chelsea, your words ease my mind. Last edited by Genom Screams; 09-18-2005 at 08:55 PM..

09-20-2005, 09:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
ElvenDestiny Tilted Location: Pittsburgh, Pa	Well Habanerosky fear not 'cause I do agree with you, I find that people have become to caught in where they are going and how they are going to get there to stop and say wow, this place is beautiful. Not only do they not stop to smell the flowers the flowers no longer exist. Also IMHO I've found that one of the major causes to this is people have become vary materialistic, and this only fuels the fires. __________________ A trees touch could be so soft it could steal you from reality. A winds whisper could be so fierce it could steal your life away.

09-14-2005, 12:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Genom Screams Upright Location: glendale	I believe that my true happiness comes from growth and success. I love my family and friends but if I can't take care of things for myself, I can't be happy. Happiness depends on how you view it.

09-14-2005, 05:56 PM	#4 (permalink)
braindamage351 Insane	Although happiness is only experienced in a single moment, some of the most powerful joys in the world come from anticipation of the future that you're headed toward. And long term goals bring this great sense of satisfaction and contentment that temporary happiness alone can't give you.