Catholic Church Puts Out Warning Against Subversive Subcultures!(faked email) - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

LoganSnake · 07-21-2005, 07:39 AM

I figured this was the best place to put this. If mods think otherwise, please move it.

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If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone astray from the Lord. Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in.
The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counselling, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

1-Frequently wears black clothing.
2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.
5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.

9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
10-Takes drugs.
11-Drinks alcohol.

12-Is suicidal and/or depressed.

13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)
14-Complains of boredom.
15-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
16-Is excessively awake during the night.
17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
19-Spends large amounts of time alone.
20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through
meditation.)

21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.
23-Misbehaves at school.
24-Misbehaves at home.
25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Chocula cereal is an example of this.

26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very
dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)

27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your
child may watch.)
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature.

29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.

31-Expresses an interest in sex.
32-Masturbates
33-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.

34-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

35-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
36-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

~St. Mary's Catholic Church

Anyone has any opinions on this? I'd reply, but I don't know how tolerant some people are, so I won't take my chances. Things that do make me cringe in disgust are points 27, 28, 29, 31, 32, 33, and 34.

EDIT: According to the forums that posted this, this is the church of origin. In case anyone wants to write letters of protest or something.

sapiens · 07-21-2005, 07:43 AM

There is an existing thread on this topic here:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=91271

LoganSnake · 07-21-2005, 07:48 AM

Damn *sigh*

j8ear · 07-21-2005, 08:51 AM

From the link to the church you provided:

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An email has been circulating recently referring to a newsletter we supposedly sent out this week titled "If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord". There has been no such letter either sent out by St. Mary's Cathedral or posted on our website. It appears that this is just another fictional email circulating on the web.

I don't even think this is a "Catholic Church." Catholic priests are called "Fathers" not 'Reverend' or 'Very Reverend.' Plus their sacraments are different.

-bear

the_marq · 07-21-2005, 09:04 AM

To be fair, the first 20 or so are just examples of good parenting: 'if your kid is into weird shit...do something about it.'

As often as we rail against the church for trying to ban video games and movies, this at least encourages parents to get invovled in their kids activities. They had me sold right up to the 'Count Chocula' entry.

Hardknock · 07-21-2005, 10:03 AM

Why is any religion that isn't theirs a "cult?" And people wonder why religion isn't allowed in schools. To all the righties who want the ten commandments in schools, are you willing to allow the teachings of islam, buddhism and other far east religions in that same school as well? If not, then christianity doesn't get to be in the school either. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Apparently, this new SC justice nominee supports religion in schools. If that happens, then all religions will have to be represented and all children will have to learn about all of them because not all children in this country are catholic or christian. That's the melting pot that is America. That's what freedom of religion means. Bush doesn't get it, Roberts sure as hell doesn't get it and apparently no one the right gets it either since they seem to think that christianity is the end all and be all of religion in the world.

j8ear · 07-21-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardknock

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Please take your hatred to the politics board, and start a thread there about this hoax, and how you hate the people who you believe actually think like this non-existent 'email.'

Or maybe you could find the other thread about this hoax posted on the 'general' board (and referenced in this thread) and rant about it there.

-bear

Hardknock · 07-21-2005, 10:32 AM

I don't hate anyone.

I'm just sick of the American double standard. If you're offended then I say this..

The truth hurts.

Fake email or not, people actually feel and think this way and I feel the need to call them on their bullsiht.

j8ear · 07-21-2005, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardknock

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Fake or not huh?

How insightful.....

Once again, though, WRONG BOARD.

-bear

Hardknock · 07-21-2005, 10:49 AM

Then why do you keep responding to it?

The mods can move if if they like.

Bill O'Rights · 07-21-2005, 11:48 AM

Well, I see no reason for this to remain ongoing.

07-21-2005, 07:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	Damn sigh __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

07-21-2005, 09:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	To be fair, the first 20 or so are just examples of good parenting: 'if your kid is into weird shit...do something about it.' As often as we rail against the church for trying to ban video games and movies, this at least encourages parents to get invovled in their kids activities. They had me sold right up to the 'Count Chocula' entry. __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

07-21-2005, 11:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	Well, I see no reason for this to remain ongoing. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

07-21-2005, 07:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
sapiens Junkie Location: Some place windy	There is an existing thread on this topic here: http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=91271

07-21-2005, 10:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hardknock Republican slayer Location: WA	Why is any religion that isn't theirs a "cult?" And people wonder why religion isn't allowed in schools. To all the righties who want the ten commandments in schools, are you willing to allow the teachings of islam, buddhism and other far east religions in that same school as well? If not, then christianity doesn't get to be in the school either. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Apparently, this new SC justice nominee supports religion in schools. If that happens, then all religions will have to be represented and all children will have to learn about all of them because not all children in this country are catholic or christian. That's the melting pot that is America. That's what freedom of religion means. Bush doesn't get it, Roberts sure as hell doesn't get it and apparently no one the right gets it either since they seem to think that christianity is the end all and be all of religion in the world.

07-21-2005, 10:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hardknock Republican slayer Location: WA	I don't hate anyone. I'm just sick of the American double standard. If you're offended then I say this.. The truth hurts. Fake email or not, people actually feel and think this way and I feel the need to call them on their bullsiht.

07-21-2005, 10:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
Hardknock Republican slayer Location: WA	Then why do you keep responding to it? The mods can move if if they like.