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hypnotic4502 · 06-01-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RusCrimson

Saying that an individual needs a certain set of beliefs to get into heaven needs a bit of nuance to it. Although according to Christians Baptism is necessary for salvation, that does not mean a ritual in a church is necessary. Perhaps the best example is that of the good thief in the Gospel, who reforms his life. These actions are what brings the person to God.

thats a major side stepping maneuver,and still doesnt explain why someone that's never heard the gospels and accepted jesus christ as their lord and savior isnt getting into (what i call this fictional) heaven.

macmanmike6100 · 06-01-2005, 05:29 PM

i truly expected more people to put "perhaps / don't know" because, honestly, who is in a position to assert that they know what can happen in the mind of god? the debate about whether there even is a god is perpetual; i wouldn't feel even less comfortable trying to say what god is capable of doing.

Ustwo · 06-01-2005, 09:40 PM

The Christian god, by definition can not make a mistake and would have no need to change his mind. By default anything that looked like a change of heart would only be for your benefit, as he had always planned to do that anyways.

I've always been more fond a the ancient Greek Gods behaving more like spoiled children, I think in the end it is a better explanation of the world even if believing in them is akin to Ptolemaic astronomy.

MikeyChalupa · 06-05-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Daoust

Of course, both of these examples are from the Bible, which is proven as a historically, scientifically, and geographically acurate text, but I'm sure there are lots of people who will disregard my examples seeing as I used that text.

Wait a minute... SCIENTIFICALLY accurate? Please tell me how anything in the Bible has been "scientifically" proven, and by whom.

-Mikey

adysav · 06-05-2005, 03:02 PM

I like how now people are using 'scientifically proven' as a basis for the Bible's accuracy, but when anything that contradicts the Bible is scientifically proven it's just heathen mumbo jumbo.

meembo · 06-05-2005, 04:50 PM

I think that religion has a great deal to learn from science, but I also feel that a creator of the universe is far more powerful and comprehensive that I can ever imagine. Trying to use my intellect to prove or disprove the validity of faith or religion is child-like. I wish people would have the humilty to admit the vast universe of things we don't understand, and thus concentrate solely on what the universe means to themselves, and nothing more. If we ourselve as humans make mistakes, it's laughable (and incredibly vain) that we debate whether God make mistakes.

View Poll Results: Could God change his mind?
No, he can't.	20	20.00%
Yes, he can, but he wouldn't (or would have no need to).	30	30.00%
Yes he can, and he would if need be.	29	29.00%
Perhaps / don't know	10	10.00%
I wouldn't feel right making an assumption.	11	11.00%
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06-01-2005, 09:40 PM	#83 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	The Christian god, by definition can not make a mistake and would have no need to change his mind. By default anything that looked like a change of heart would only be for your benefit, as he had always planned to do that anyways. I've always been more fond a the ancient Greek Gods behaving more like spoiled children, I think in the end it is a better explanation of the world even if believing in them is akin to Ptolemaic astronomy. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps. Last edited by Ustwo; 06-01-2005 at 09:42 PM..

06-05-2005, 04:50 PM	#86 (permalink)
meembo Junkie Location: Connecticut	I think that religion has a great deal to learn from science, but I also feel that a creator of the universe is far more powerful and comprehensive that I can ever imagine. Trying to use my intellect to prove or disprove the validity of faith or religion is child-like. I wish people would have the humilty to admit the vast universe of things we don't understand, and thus concentrate solely on what the universe means to themselves, and nothing more. If we ourselve as humans make mistakes, it's laughable (and incredibly vain) that we debate whether God make mistakes. __________________ less I say, smarter I am

06-01-2005, 05:29 PM	#82 (permalink)
macmanmike6100 High Honorary Junkie Location: Tri-state.	i truly expected more people to put "perhaps / don't know" because, honestly, who is in a position to assert that they know what can happen in the mind of god? the debate about whether there even is a god is perpetual; i wouldn't feel even less comfortable trying to say what god is capable of doing.

06-05-2005, 03:02 PM	#85 (permalink)
adysav Insane	I like how now people are using 'scientifically proven' as a basis for the Bible's accuracy, but when anything that contradicts the Bible is scientifically proven it's just heathen mumbo jumbo.