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f6twister · 01-07-2005, 09:06 AM

My son is 10 months old. He has always slept fairly well (thankfully) but he always has trouble when his mom is leaving. You may be thinking, yeah, he cries when he sees her leave. Nope. He should have no way of knowing.

For example:

When he was born, my wife was working 3rd shift. She was on leave for about 1 1/2 months after he was born but the time came to return to work. At that point in time, he was sleeping 4-5 hours at a time, then he would cry. My wife and I would each take a night to get up with him so one of us could get sleep and he almost always went right back to sleep. The first night she went back to work, I got 20 min of sleep. He cried and screamed the whole night. After that, he would sleep fine when she was home but even though she left 3 hours after he went to bed and she was the one who tucked him in, he would cry a lot more when she was gone.

Now my wife works a different job but leaves in the morning before he gets up. She only works Mon/Wed/Fri for about 4-5 hours a day. On the nights before she has to work (like last night) he cries and will not accept comfort from anyone but mom. If she puts him down, he cries. On nights she doesn't work the next morning, he will maybe wake up once crying but otherwise he is fine. On her off nights, I am also acceptable comfort.

How can he know when she is working or not? We even got to test his knowledge by messing with the days a little. One week, she switched days and worked Tuesday instead of Monday. He followed along and cried Monday night. Sunday night was fine. The next week she took off on Friday. He was fine Thurdsay night.

Ella · 01-08-2005, 01:54 AM

Hhhmmm...all I can say is, from my own experience, young babies have a pretty strong sense of where their mother is, and know when she's not there. I used to have these odd kind of mind connections with my last child when she was a baby, and swore we could read each others' minds! Just turns out we were really in synch, as mother and child (as most mothers are with their new babies). We don't have that kind of connection now, but it was awfully strong when she was a little tacker.

Take from that what you will....

tecoyah · 01-08-2005, 04:35 AM

Phormones and sense of smell....may be playing a role in this. Babies have a connection with the mother that is not completely understood by science, but a combination of the initial bonding, and the hightened olfactory capabilities of newborns is a primary focus of current research.....if I can find the data, I will post it here.

f6twister · 01-08-2005, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ella

young babies have a pretty strong sense of where their mother is, and know when she's not there....

This is what we thought was going on when my wife worked third shift because she would leave then he would cry later. This is what makes this situation confusing. She is now home the entire time he cries. She is the one who comforts him. He somehow knows that she will be leaving in 5-7 hours and gets upset.

canuckguy · 01-08-2005, 05:09 PM

I feel your pain my friend. I have a 9 month baby girl who is kinda the opposite. she sleeps well when the missus is at work, but usually wakes up every couple of hours when she is home and wants to see her i guess. not sure why. as for you, have you tried giving the baby your wifes night shirt or other clothing with her smell on it for the crib. worth a try. get some sleep, ....i think i might take a nap too.....

Hard8s · 01-08-2005, 07:27 PM

My little dude seems to have ESP as well. There is many a time he will say "telephone" and a minute later the phone rings. But the one that really got me was when my wife and her mother took him to see that peter pan movie. In the middle of the movie he turned to his mom and said "the movies over." She turned to him and said it wasn't. He told her "yes it is, its over now!" just then the movie stopped and the lights came on as the projector had a problem. within 5 minutes they had it fixed and they watched the rest of the movie. Kind of creepy! I am still waiting for him to pick the Lotto numbers for us.

FngKestrel · 01-08-2005, 07:41 PM

Hard8s, check his head for sixes.

Hard8s · 01-09-2005, 07:40 PM

Done, none there. *whew* No really he is a really good kid too. Thats the scary part! I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop, but it never does. He doesn't really yell, he does what he is told (for the most part), he is really kind to others, he tells his mom and me that he loves us everday! Can't ask for anything more, except........the winning lotto numbers, eh!

f6twister · 01-10-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by brian1975

have you tried giving the baby your wifes night shirt or other clothing with her smell on it for the crib.

We tried that a while ago but it didn't work. We think he has a combo ESP/separation anxiety (but only when he gets a vibe that she will be leaving in the morning for work).

The last three nights were just another example. Friday and Saturday nights went fine. He cried one or two times each night but if I went in to comfort him, he settled down right away and went right back to sleep. Last night, ugh! He started crying around 3am and I went in. He cried even louder until my wife came in and took him from me. He immediately stopped crying and closed his eyes. But, as soon as she would put him down, he would cry again. This lasted for 3 hours! My wife had to get up at 6:30 for work so she got about 2-2 1/2 hours of sleep last night. She has off tomorrow so we will see what tonight brings. I'm hoping this phase is a short one because it sucks!

clavus · 01-10-2005, 11:38 AM

Its a phase. It will pass. Mark my words.

For what it's worth, why should it come as a suprise that children have ESP? My mom and I always had some sort of extra connection. It was strong even after I sent to college. I'd know my mom was calling the moment the phone rang. I'd call her to cheer her up even though I had no earthly way to know that she had a hard day. The psychic connection between mother and child is as natural as anything.

sashime76 · 01-14-2005, 10:15 AM

I'd also say it's the sense of smell. My wife wears no makeup, no perfume and yet both our boys could "sense" their mom leaving their sight when they were little. Your baby will eventually outgrow it.

01-14-2005, 08:39 PM

He is a child. Children are so in touch with their intuitive knowledge than you would ever believe. It is because they are fresh-born, close to that which they came from. As they grow older, they tend to lose that intuitive knowledge (you may also include ESP, psychic awareness, etc.) They are amazing with this type of thing. They pick up on the smallest things we adults tend to miss or even take for granted.

drakers · 01-21-2005, 07:25 PM

They just know...trust me I know from experience.

f6twister · 01-21-2005, 08:00 PM

I am happy to say that he has gotten used to having his mom gone for the day. He finally went back to accepting me at night and only wakes up once. Even when he does, it only lasts from 10 min to a hour (unlike before where it was 2-3 hours and only with mom). The ESP is still there, he has just begun to accept what he can't change (at least in this case).

ninety09 · 01-25-2005, 01:14 PM

Babies need their mother more than anything. I thought this was common knowledge. I'll never understand why so many women don't stay home to take care of their kids. oh well..

SaltPork · 02-04-2005, 08:26 PM

Whiskey.

One of you needs to drink it in order to get some sleep. You decide which one.

01-07-2005, 09:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
f6twister Addict	Help, My Baby Has ESP My son is 10 months old. He has always slept fairly well (thankfully) but he always has trouble when his mom is leaving. You may be thinking, yeah, he cries when he sees her leave. Nope. He should have no way of knowing. For example: When he was born, my wife was working 3rd shift. She was on leave for about 1 1/2 months after he was born but the time came to return to work. At that point in time, he was sleeping 4-5 hours at a time, then he would cry. My wife and I would each take a night to get up with him so one of us could get sleep and he almost always went right back to sleep. The first night she went back to work, I got 20 min of sleep. He cried and screamed the whole night. After that, he would sleep fine when she was home but even though she left 3 hours after he went to bed and she was the one who tucked him in, he would cry a lot more when she was gone. Now my wife works a different job but leaves in the morning before he gets up. She only works Mon/Wed/Fri for about 4-5 hours a day. On the nights before she has to work (like last night) he cries and will not accept comfort from anyone but mom. If she puts him down, he cries. On nights she doesn't work the next morning, he will maybe wake up once crying but otherwise he is fine. On her off nights, I am also acceptable comfort. How can he know when she is working or not? We even got to test his knowledge by messing with the days a little. One week, she switched days and worked Tuesday instead of Monday. He followed along and cried Monday night. Sunday night was fine. The next week she took off on Friday. He was fine Thurdsay night. __________________ A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day. Calvin

01-08-2005, 01:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ella Ella Bo Bella Location: Australia	Hhhmmm...all I can say is, from my own experience, young babies have a pretty strong sense of where their mother is, and know when she's not there. I used to have these odd kind of mind connections with my last child when she was a baby, and swore we could read each others' minds! Just turns out we were really in synch, as mother and child (as most mothers are with their new babies). We don't have that kind of connection now, but it was awfully strong when she was a little tacker. Take from that what you will.... __________________ "Afterwards, the universe will explode for your pleasure."

01-08-2005, 04:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	Phormones and sense of smell....may be playing a role in this. Babies have a connection with the mother that is not completely understood by science, but a combination of the initial bonding, and the hightened olfactory capabilities of newborns is a primary focus of current research.....if I can find the data, I will post it here. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

01-08-2005, 07:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hard8s Addict Location: Wherever I am!	My little dude seems to have ESP as well. There is many a time he will say "telephone" and a minute later the phone rings. But the one that really got me was when my wife and her mother took him to see that peter pan movie. In the middle of the movie he turned to his mom and said "the movies over." She turned to him and said it wasn't. He told her "yes it is, its over now!" just then the movie stopped and the lights came on as the projector had a problem. within 5 minutes they had it fixed and they watched the rest of the movie. Kind of creepy! I am still waiting for him to pick the Lotto numbers for us. __________________ If ignorance is bliss, then wipe this smile off my face!

01-09-2005, 07:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hard8s Addict Location: Wherever I am!	Done, none there. whew No really he is a really good kid too. Thats the scary part! I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop, but it never does. He doesn't really yell, he does what he is told (for the most part), he is really kind to others, he tells his mom and me that he loves us everday! Can't ask for anything more, except........the winning lotto numbers, eh! __________________ If ignorance is bliss, then wipe this smile off my face!

01-08-2005, 05:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
canuckguy I read your emails. Location: earth	I feel your pain my friend. I have a 9 month baby girl who is kinda the opposite. she sleeps well when the missus is at work, but usually wakes up every couple of hours when she is home and wants to see her i guess. not sure why. as for you, have you tried giving the baby your wifes night shirt or other clothing with her smell on it for the crib. worth a try. get some sleep, ....i think i might take a nap too.....

01-08-2005, 07:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
FngKestrel Junkie	Hard8s, check his head for sixes.

01-10-2005, 11:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
clavus pow! Location: NorCal	Its a phase. It will pass. Mark my words. For what it's worth, why should it come as a suprise that children have ESP? My mom and I always had some sort of extra connection. It was strong even after I sent to college. I'd know my mom was calling the moment the phone rang. I'd call her to cheer her up even though I had no earthly way to know that she had a hard day. The psychic connection between mother and child is as natural as anything. __________________ Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.

01-14-2005, 10:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
sashime76 Addict Location: Hoosier State	I'd also say it's the sense of smell. My wife wears no makeup, no perfume and yet both our boys could "sense" their mom leaving their sight when they were little. Your baby will eventually outgrow it.

01-14-2005, 08:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
:::OshnSoul::: Guest	He is a child. Children are so in touch with their intuitive knowledge than you would ever believe. It is because they are fresh-born, close to that which they came from. As they grow older, they tend to lose that intuitive knowledge (you may also include ESP, psychic awareness, etc.) They are amazing with this type of thing. They pick up on the smallest things we adults tend to miss or even take for granted.

01-21-2005, 07:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
drakers Psycho Location: IOWA	They just know...trust me I know from experience.

01-21-2005, 08:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
f6twister Addict	I am happy to say that he has gotten used to having his mom gone for the day. He finally went back to accepting me at night and only wakes up once. Even when he does, it only lasts from 10 min to a hour (unlike before where it was 2-3 hours and only with mom). The ESP is still there, he has just begun to accept what he can't change (at least in this case). __________________ A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day. Calvin

01-25-2005, 01:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
ninety09 Flavour of the Weak Location: Canada	Babies need their mother more than anything. I thought this was common knowledge. I'll never understand why so many women don't stay home to take care of their kids. oh well..

02-04-2005, 08:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
SaltPork Everything's better with bacon Location: In your local grocer's freezer.	Whiskey. One of you needs to drink it in order to get some sleep. You decide which one. __________________ It was like that when I got here....I swear.