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Tex · 07-01-2004, 10:03 PM

Does anyone know the name of the paradox that says "The more you know, the more you know that you DON'T know."

Moobie · 07-01-2004, 10:52 PM

I think that's a Socrates quote.

John Henry · 07-03-2004, 12:41 AM

Try Tilted Knowledge.

repeater · 07-11-2004, 02:54 PM

I don't think that's a direct Socrates quote is it? I know his idea was very similar. He knew that he didn't know, which was something all the other supposedly wise men didn't know. It all revolved around his central questions "what is piety? what is justice..." There is a new book called "6 questions of Socrates" that looked really interesting. The author basically took the same line that Socrates did and asked supposed experts the same questions Socrates asked of the experts in his time. I guess that's a bit off topic though.

Master_Shake · 07-13-2004, 11:01 AM

I believe that comes from a story that began with a trip to the Oracle of Delphi taken by a friend of Socrates. The friend returned and told Socrates that the Oracle anounced that there was no one wiser than Socrates. Socrates scoffed at this and could not understand how this was so. To disprove the Oracle, Socrates began to travel the land asking questions of various politicians, leaders, religious persons. He was searching for someone wiser and more knowledgable; instead he found that most of these people relied on suppositions, myths and fallacies. He eventually reconciled the Oracle's words with his own perceptions by realizing that since he knew he knew so little, he actually knew more than others who claimed they knew so much. Thus, "true knowledge consists of knowing that you know nothing." -Ted "Theodore" Logan.

Part of this story comes from Plato's "Apology" and part of it is apocryphal.

07-01-2004, 10:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
Tex Crazy Location: Orange County, CA	Quick question... Does anyone know the name of the paradox that says "The more you know, the more you know that you DON'T know." __________________ "All I know is that I know nothing..."

07-01-2004, 10:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	I think that's a Socrates quote. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

07-03-2004, 12:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
John Henry Addict Location: Grey Britain	Try Tilted Knowledge. __________________ "No one was behaving from very Buddhist motives. Then, thought Pigsy, he was hardly a Buddha, nor was he a monkey. Presently, he was a pig spirit changed into a little girl pretending to be a little boy to be offered to a water monster. It was all very simple to a pig spirit."

07-11-2004, 02:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
repeater Crazy Location: Chicago	I don't think that's a direct Socrates quote is it? I know his idea was very similar. He knew that he didn't know, which was something all the other supposedly wise men didn't know. It all revolved around his central questions "what is piety? what is justice..." There is a new book called "6 questions of Socrates" that looked really interesting. The author basically took the same line that Socrates did and asked supposed experts the same questions Socrates asked of the experts in his time. I guess that's a bit off topic though. __________________ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Raoul Duke

07-13-2004, 11:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Master_Shake Addict Location: Pennsylvania, USA	Not a socrates quote... I believe that comes from a story that began with a trip to the Oracle of Delphi taken by a friend of Socrates. The friend returned and told Socrates that the Oracle anounced that there was no one wiser than Socrates. Socrates scoffed at this and could not understand how this was so. To disprove the Oracle, Socrates began to travel the land asking questions of various politicians, leaders, religious persons. He was searching for someone wiser and more knowledgable; instead he found that most of these people relied on suppositions, myths and fallacies. He eventually reconciled the Oracle's words with his own perceptions by realizing that since he knew he knew so little, he actually knew more than others who claimed they knew so much. Thus, "true knowledge consists of knowing that you know nothing." -Ted "Theodore" Logan. Part of this story comes from Plato's "Apology" and part of it is apocryphal.