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saut · 04-25-2004, 06:25 PM

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Dutch Schultz, although fatally wounded in the abdomen, lasted until 8:30 that Thursday evening. The wound caused massive internal bleeding and an infection, and when lucid he continued to refuse to say who shot him or why. His relatives and friends, including his wife and mother visited him at the hospital throughout the day. As his condition worsened and his fever increased, he began to drift in and out of consciousness, often babbling strange and disconnected phrases such as, "The glove will fit what I say," and "The sidewalk was in trouble, and the bears were in trouble." The authorities kept a stenographer at Schultz's bedside to record every last rambling thought he uttered. Federal agents and police from New York and New Jersey tried in vain to analyze his last words after his death. Although some of Schultz's rantings may have referred to his shooting and criminal activities, most were believed to be about childhood memories, old rhymes and songs, etc.

The most interesting of has last words, however, is this: "A boy has never wept nor dashed a thousand kim." There have been numerous books on the subject debating just what Shultz meant. No one has come to a real conclusion. I keep thinking about these words. They're so beautifully poetic and cryptic. There's something about it that makes me think there's more to it. Does anyone have a fucking clue what the Dutchman was talking about?

Journeyman · 04-26-2004, 06:34 AM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

You should be able to find it in your local library. The section on oracles about sums up what I think of when I read that account of Shultz' last words.

TheKak · 04-26-2004, 10:49 PM

If I was a betting man, I would go with a dying man uttering non-sense that doesn't actual mean anything, though people want it to mean something so they try to find meaning in the non-sense which just leads to more non-sense and speculation.

LeviticusMky · 04-27-2004, 11:46 AM

When the brain isn't getting enough blood, it starts firing neurons increasingly out of control. Someone who is dying isn't really saying much.

Redlemon · 04-27-2004, 12:00 PM

There's a complete analysis of his last words in one of the Robert Anton Wilson books, I believe it was the Illuminatus Trilogy. Mind you, this is paranoid science fiction, so probably not an ACCURATE analysis, but
Spoiler: in this case it turns out to be a detailed relevation of the Illumanati's operational methods.

Yakk · 04-28-2004, 10:07 AM

Redlemon, are you claiming that the Illuminatus trilogy isn't the reviled word of Eris?

Redlemon · 04-28-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Yakk
Redlemon, are you claiming that the Illuminatus trilogy isn't the reviled word of Eris?

Shh... not so loud, everyone will want one.

saut · 04-28-2004, 11:30 AM

Ah yes, Robert Putney Drake's analysis of it all. I really don't know why the hell I started this thread, seems kind of pointless now that I read it again. Oh well.

04-26-2004, 10:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
TheKak Insane Location: Virginia	If I was a betting man, I would go with a dying man uttering non-sense that doesn't actual mean anything, though people want it to mean something so they try to find meaning in the non-sense which just leads to more non-sense and speculation. __________________ Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I.

04-27-2004, 11:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
LeviticusMky Crazy Location: Minnesota	When the brain isn't getting enough blood, it starts firing neurons increasingly out of control. Someone who is dying isn't really saying much. __________________ Fact: Global levels of Oxygen are depleting. Fact: Global levels Carbon Dioxide are increasing. (icy hell)Mars<------EARTH------>Venus(burning hell)

04-27-2004, 12:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	There's a complete analysis of his last words in one of the Robert Anton Wilson books, I believe it was the Illuminatus Trilogy. Mind you, this is paranoid science fiction, so probably not an ACCURATE analysis, but Spoiler: in this case it turns out to be a detailed relevation of the Illumanati's operational methods. __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

04-28-2004, 10:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
Yakk Wehret Den Anfängen! Location: Ontario, Canada	Redlemon, are you claiming that the Illuminatus trilogy isn't the reviled word of Eris? __________________ Last edited by JHVH : 10-29-4004 BC at 09:00 PM. Reason: Time for a rest.

04-26-2004, 06:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Journeyman Like John Goodman, but not. Location: SFBA, California	http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846 You should be able to find it in your local library. The section on oracles about sums up what I think of when I read that account of Shultz' last words.

04-28-2004, 11:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
saut Registered User Location: Pittsburgh	Ah yes, Robert Putney Drake's analysis of it all. I really don't know why the hell I started this thread, seems kind of pointless now that I read it again. Oh well.