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saut 04-25-2004 06:25 PM

The Last Words of Dutch Shultz
 
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Dutch Schultz, although fatally wounded in the abdomen, lasted until 8:30 that Thursday evening. The wound caused massive internal bleeding and an infection, and when lucid he continued to refuse to say who shot him or why. His relatives and friends, including his wife and mother visited him at the hospital throughout the day. As his condition worsened and his fever increased, he began to drift in and out of consciousness, often babbling strange and disconnected phrases such as, "The glove will fit what I say," and "The sidewalk was in trouble, and the bears were in trouble." The authorities kept a stenographer at Schultz's bedside to record every last rambling thought he uttered. Federal agents and police from New York and New Jersey tried in vain to analyze his last words after his death. Although some of Schultz's rantings may have referred to his shooting and criminal activities, most were believed to be about childhood memories, old rhymes and songs, etc.
The most interesting of has last words, however, is this: "A boy has never wept nor dashed a thousand kim." There have been numerous books on the subject debating just what Shultz meant. No one has come to a real conclusion. I keep thinking about these words. They're so beautifully poetic and cryptic. There's something about it that makes me think there's more to it. Does anyone have a fucking clue what the Dutchman was talking about?

Journeyman 04-26-2004 06:34 AM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846

You should be able to find it in your local library. The section on oracles about sums up what I think of when I read that account of Shultz' last words.

TheKak 04-26-2004 10:49 PM

If I was a betting man, I would go with a dying man uttering non-sense that doesn't actual mean anything, though people want it to mean something so they try to find meaning in the non-sense which just leads to more non-sense and speculation.

LeviticusMky 04-27-2004 11:46 AM

When the brain isn't getting enough blood, it starts firing neurons increasingly out of control. Someone who is dying isn't really saying much.

Redlemon 04-27-2004 12:00 PM

There's a complete analysis of his last words in one of the Robert Anton Wilson books, I believe it was the Illuminatus Trilogy. Mind you, this is paranoid science fiction, so probably not an ACCURATE analysis, but
Spoiler: in this case it turns out to be a detailed relevation of the Illumanati's operational methods.

Yakk 04-28-2004 10:07 AM

Redlemon, are you claiming that the Illuminatus trilogy isn't the reviled word of Eris?

Redlemon 04-28-2004 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Yakk
Redlemon, are you claiming that the Illuminatus trilogy isn't the reviled word of Eris?
Shh... not so loud, everyone will want one.
http://www.scotto.org/melodrama/prin...nd-of-eris.gif

saut 04-28-2004 11:30 AM

Ah yes, Robert Putney Drake's analysis of it all. I really don't know why the hell I started this thread, seems kind of pointless now that I read it again. Oh well.


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